From Chapter 10 on Confidential Human Sources in the IG Report. (Begins pg 308 of the Report)

Focusing primarily on Papadopoulos and Confidential Human Sources (CHS):

1) Source 2 = Halper
Halper recorded Papa (& Page) & there was clearly extensive exculpatory evidence obtained wherein Papa denied any knowledge of the DNC hack or dealing with Russia (which we already know was NOT provided to the FISC). Many CHS details are listed about this relationship in this chapter (particularly regarding Page). Also of note: Case Agent 1 was previously a handler of Source 2/Halper while at an FBI field office from 2011-2016, which was prior to Case Agent 1 arriving to join the Crossfire Hurricane Team in early August 2016 -- so that shoots down my theory about Strzok being Case Agent 1 -- but...pg 308:

Quote:

---

Second, early in the investigation, the Crossfire Hurricane team discovered that it had an existing FBI CHS who had previously interacted with named subjects of the investigation.

---

This obviously is in reference to Halper -- they were aware he previously had interacted with Flynn & Manafort (maybe even while he was a CHS?), so that's why they wanted to pursue Halper as a CHS. But note the timing: Crossfire Hurricane opened July 31, 2016, they knew Halper would make a good CHS from his prior interactions, & they had arranged for Case Agent 1 to relocate to the DC office prior to August 11 (because Case Agent 1 was tasked to fly to London to meet with Halper along with several others on this date) = they had to have been working on how to conduct this investigation long before July 31, 2016; i.e., remember Halper's associate inviting Page to Cambridge in an email June 7, 2016. Coincidence? Hah!

2) Source 3 = ???
This is new. There was another CHS who met & recorded Papa on multiple occasions beginning in October 2016, again providing considerable exculpatory evidence on Papa. No clues on who this was. There is ample info pp 333-336 that Papadopoulos should be able to figure out who this is (I sent a tweet to Papa inquiring about Source 3 but I doubt he will respond to me.)

3) There is no mention of Azra Turk in Chapter 10, someone we know was a CHS who met with Papa in conjunction with Halper, so presumably she is CIA. However, there is no mention of a Source 1 in Chapter 10 either, so possibly...

I spent time trying to figure out who Source 3 was, & in the process I stumbled across a podcast/video from Papadopoulos which he produced himself (first of a series) & in which he discusses the IG Report. Rather interesting to hear his comments now, & I admit to my surprise, he comes across as very reasonable & somewhat polished. He outs Halper in this video as Source 2 but never addresses Source 3.

It really sucks with this large of report, when they won't use names, even if pseudonyms, when trying to follow who is who.

Admire your effort, as my eyes were crossed about 200 pages in and I just stopped.

drcrinum said:

---

I have been reading parts of the IG Report & have begun taking notes because already I have become saturated with 'information overload'. You cannot imagine how complicated & complex this SpyGate scheme is from an investigative standpoint. It makes a Russian novel or mystery story seem like child's play. I confess that I have taken pride with myself in having made a concerted effort to stay abreast of what has been transpiring publicly regarding SpyGate over the last 2 years since our thread started, but alas...there is so much more to this affair than I could have ever imagined. There's lots of new information in this report, some of it contradicting what we previously had been led to believe or had surmised, plus it's apparent that people interviewed by Horowitz's Team are hiding (not recalling) their actions/intent/bias & not volunteering details unless prodded with documented paperwork. It's already obvious to me that Horowitz's investigation is only a small window into the overall scheme, & Horowitz had hundreds of assistants working on his investigation. Remember, Horowitz's investigation was limited to the FBI/DOJ, with no subpoena power over any non-government persons & no authority to pursue other government agency personnel. It's frustrating because I, like everyone else, want resolution of this matter, but I am sensing that this is going to drag on for a long time because the tentacles of this affair range far & wide.

---

Thanks for all of your efforts on this thread (Hawg too).

A couple of those tentacles I am particularly interested in:

The dates trap set on the Senate Intelligence Committee and who let Wolfe get away with a hand slap. There are so many weasels on this committee that would sing to save their ass that it would be a shame if never investigated. With the declass on the dates I would assume this committee, especially Warner and Burr, would be something of a priority. There's a reason the DOJ let Wolfe off so easy after leaking a freaking FISA report. There is bad stuff being hidden but devastating if exposed. I hope so.

Also, Ciaramella/Attkinson/the second NSC employee schiff hired. Schiff's actions are more than just ambition to take Feinstein's Senate seat, he is scared of something being uncovered and willing to take risks to hide it. After the Mueller report failed they began looking for anything else they could possibly use to impeach and they decided Trump's call to Ukraine was their best shot - especially with Ciarmella lying about what was said in the call. They didn't see the transcript release coming.

Pelosi was dead set against impeachment because she knew what the consequences would be in 2020. Yet she suddenly pivoted toward immediate impeachment when the IG report was sent out to subjects for their chance to respond. They knew that if Horowitz had all of this that Barr and Durham are certainly on to the whole corruption and there will be hell to pay.

You would probably be interested in this thread which was just posted.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1206310167651983362.html

Quote:

---

They knew that if Horowitz had all of this that Barr and Durham are certainly on to the whole corruption and [Bold]there will be hell to pay[/Bold].

---

In other words, it wasn't going to matter what they did, Barr and Durham were going to rip them new ones, about liver high on the right side, and sinking the Good Ship Lollipop. So, they have decided to do as much damage to Trump, Cocaine Mitch and the whole Farkle Family as possible.

Is that about right?

News all the way from Italy...go figure.

drcrinum said:

---

You would probably be interested in this thread which was just posted.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1206310167651983362.html

---

Thank you. That was interesting. Did not realize how much power Burr and Warner actually have. Feinstein stepping down makes more sense now. Was that about the same time her driver was outed as a Chinese spy? Also, seemed odd that as the Special Counsel was being appointed she stated that she didn't see reason for it. Odd that the one Dem that wasn't screaming Trump-Russia was actually part of Gang of 8.

SeMgCo87 said:

---

Quote:

---

They knew that if Horowitz had all of this that Barr and Durham are certainly on to the whole corruption and [Bold]there will be hell to pay[/Bold].

---

In other words, it wasn't going to matter what they did, Barr and Durham were going to rip them new ones, about liver high on the right side, and sinking the Good Ship Lollipop. So, they have decided to do as much damage to Trump, Cocaine Mitch and the whole Farkle Family as possible.

Is that about right?

---

I don't know what their actual motivation is/was other than self-preservation. If they know a storm is coming, maybe getting Trump weakened or thrown out would some how help them by the investigations not going as far and deep? Schiff is acting like a desperate man.

3 Toed Pete said:

---

drcrinum said:

---

You would probably be interested in this thread which was just posted.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1206310167651983362.html

---

Thank you. That was interesting. Did not realize how much power Burr and Warner actually have. Feinstein stepping down makes more sense now. Was that about the same time her driver was outed as a Chinese spy? Also, seemed odd that as the Special Counsel was being appointed she stated that she didn't see reason for it. Odd that the one Dem that wasn't screaming Trump-Russia was actually part of Gang of 8.

---

I think her stepping down had to do with her relationship with Daniel (Dan) Jones, her former staffer on the Senate Select Comm on Intelligence who has a relationship with Fusion GPS & whom we discussed months ago. The one redacted report in that thread is obviously related to Dan Jones.

drcrinum said:

---

Quote:

---

As noted throughout this report, Case Agent 1 was primarily responsible for some of the most significant errors and omissions in the FISA applications, including (1) the mischaracterization of Steele's prior reporting resulting from his failure to seek review and approval of the statement from the handling agent, as the Woods Procedures required, (2) the failure to advise OI of Papadopoulos's statements to FBI CHSs that were inconsistent with the Steele reporting relied upon in the FISA applications that there was a "well-developed conspiracy of co-operation" between individuals associated with the Trump campaign and Russia, (3) the failure to advise OI of Page's statements to an FBI CHS regarding him having no communications with Manafort and denying the alleged meetings with Sechin and Divyekin, ( 4) providing inaccurate and incomplete information to OI about information provided by another U.S. government agency regarding its past relationship with Page that was highly relevant to the applications, (5) the failure to advise OI of the information from Bruce Ohr about Steele and his election reporting, and (6) the failure to advise OI of the inconsistences between Steele and his Primary Sub-source. The explanations that Case Agent 1 provided for these errors and omissions are summarized in Chapter Five and Chapter Eight of this report. While we found no documentary or testimonial evidence that this pattern of errors by Case Agent 1 was intentional, we also did not find his explanations for so many significant and repeated failures to be satisfactory. We therefore concluded that these explanations did not excuse his failure to meet his responsibility to ensure that the initial FISA application, the first renewal application, and the third renewal application were "scrupulously accurate."

---

(Edit: Page 416 via the pdf pages; Page 377 listed on the report.)

---

The above on Case Agent 1 is for review purposes. This chap is responsible for more than what is listed above. Here are some additional features/info/actions involving Case Agent 1:

1) Case Agent 1 was on loan to the Crossfire Hurricane Team from the FBI NYFO -- Page 66:

Quote:

---

With respect to the four individual investigations, CD transferred the Carter Page investigation to NYFO, and it remained assigned to Case Agent 1, who returned to that office following his 90-day TDY.

---

This changes things a little doesn't it? Remember, (1) The NYFO had already opened an investigation of Carter Page in March 2016; & (2) Case Agent 1 had been Halper's handler since 2011. I found more details about the NYFO investigation of Carter Page, pp 62-63:

Quote:

---

The FBI's NYFO CI squad supervisor (NYFO CI Supervisor) told us she believed she should have opened a counterintelligence case on Carter Page prior to March 2, 2016 based on his continued contacts with Russian intelligence officers; however, she said the squad was preparing for a big trial, and they did not focus on Page until he was interviewed again on March 2. She told us that after the March 2 interview, she called CD's Counterespionage Section at FBI Headquarters to determine whether Page had any security clearances and to ask for guidance as to what type of investigation to open on Page. 183 On April 1, 2016, the NYFO CI Supervisor received an email from the Counterespionage Section advising her to open a [redaction] investigation on Page. The NYFO CI Supervisor said that [3 line redaction]......

Footnote:
183 CI agents in NYFO told us that the databases containing security clearance information were located at FBI Headquarters. When a subject possesses a security clearance, the FBI opens an espionage investigation; if the subject does not possess a security clearance, the FBI typically opens a counterintelligence investigation.

.....On April 6, 2016, NYFO opened a counterintelligence [redacted] investigation on Carter Page under a code name the FBI assigned to him (NYFO investigation) based on his contacts with Russian intelligence officers and his statement to Russian officials that he was "Male-1" in the SDNY indictment. Based on our review of documents in the NYFO case file, as well as our interview of the NYFO CI Agent, there was limited investigative activity in the NYFO investigation between April 6 and the Crossfire Hurricane team's opening of its investigation of Page on August 10......

---

So Carter Page did not possess a security clearance. (But the NYFO did not check with the CIA.)

2) Most important: Case Agent 1 was primarily responsible for providing all the information to the FISA application specialists necessary for drafting the FISA application on Carter Page & documenting the Woods Procedures.

You can read the highlights above for Page 377 regarding Case Agent 1, & I've already posted about the August 2016 Memorandum from the CIA about its involvement with Carter Page & how Case Agent 1 conveniently 'disregarded' it. Now here's another goody with Case Agent 1 involving the Yahoo News article used in the FISA application to support the Steele Dossier reporting about Carter Page & Moscow, pp 144-146:

Quote:

---

The draft FISA applications, and later the read copy and final application, advised the court that the Yahoo News article reported that U.S. intelligence officials were investigating Carter Page's involvement in suspected efforts by the Russian government to influence the U.S. presidential election and that a "well placed Western intelligence source" told Yahoo News about Carter Page's alleged secret meetings with Sechin and Divyekin. The applications stated that, based on statements made in the Yahoo News article and in other news articles, individuals affiliated with the Trump campaign made statements distancing the campaign from Carter Page. Further, the applications noted that Page himself denied the accusations in the Yahoo News article and reiterated that denial in a September 25 letter to the FBI Director and in a September 26 media interview....
.....
The drafts of the FISA application that preceded the October 14 draft including the October 11 draft that the FBI expected would be submitted to the FISC as the final read copy-stated that the FBI "believes that the 'well-placed Western intelligence source' is Steele." After reviewing the initial drafts, Evans asked OI to "drill down" on why Steele disclosed information to the media. For example, in an October 11 email to OI staff, Evans asked "does the FBI know why the source provided this info to the press.... Is there anything about his decision to speak to the press that suggests he's got a bias?"

The result of this effort culminated in new language in the October 14 draft stating that the FBI believed it was Glenn Simpson or the law firm who hired Simpson, and not Steele, who provided Steele's reporting to the media. With respect to the basis for the FBI's assessment, the language that appeared in Footnote 18 of the read copy and final application stated the following:

As discussed above, [Steele] was hired by a business associate to conduct research into Candidate #l's ties to Russia. [Steele] provided the results of his research to the business associate, and the FBI assesses that the business associate likely provided this information to the law firm that hired the business associate in the first place. [Steele] told the FBI that he/she only provided this information to the business associate and the FBI. Given that the information contained in the September 23rd News Article generally matches the information about Page that [Steele] discovered during his/her research, the FBI assesses that [Steele's] business associate or the law firm that hired the business associate likely provided this information to the press. The FBI also assesses that whoever gave the information to the press stated that the information was provided by a "well-placed Western intelligence source." The FBI does not believe that [Steele] directly provided this information to the press.

Case Agent 1 told the OIG that he did not recall why the October 11 draft stated that Steele was the "well-placed Western intelligence source" or the reason the language was changed in the updated draft to state that the FBI did not believe Steele directly provided the information in the article. He said he did not recall the details regarding what he was told, or what he told OI, about whether Steele was the source for the Yahoo News article leak. The OGC Attorney told us that he was not familiar with how the change between drafts occurred......

---

See what happened here? In the original draft, Steele was outed as the source for the Yahoo News article. Anyone reading that would know it was circular verification -- Steele was the source for both the Yahoo News article & his Dossier report. But poor Case Agent 1, he couldn't recall the details of why the draft was changed. Sounds like HRC.

Nunes letter to Schiff today recommending that Schiff needs to go to rehabilitation. The issue is all the lies Schiff told in his Memo of February 24, 2018 where he refuted Nunes Memo about abuse in the Carter Page FISA application. I can't find a link to the 3 page letter -- it's embedded in the tweet.

Dammit!

I was just coming here to post this. I LOL'd several times. It's kind of hard to believe Nunes isn't an attorney, and I took the rare opportunity to retweet the letter. I saw it on Powerline, and was coming here, but you beat me to it.

It's well deserved, and nicely ridicules Schiff, which is a turn-about of the Alinsky Rules for Radicals. As you know, one of the items Alinsky suggests, is to ridicule your opponent endlessly, which the Left has done successfully for years.

It's outstanding.

drcrinum said:

---

Nunes letter to Schiff today recommending that Schiff needs to go to rehabilitation. The issue is all the lies Schiff told in his Memo of February 24, 2018 where he refuted Nunes Memo about abuse in the Carter Page FISA application. I can't find a link to the 3 page letter -- it's embedded in the tweet.

---

DAAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNGGG!!!! Nunes unloaded both barrels! And it is hilarious!

is there any recourse in removing Schiff from being committee chair? It's beyond disgraceful what this turd has done.

The dominoes are starting to fall in Ukraine. NABU is a Soros backed organization, & Yovanovitch, the former American Ambassador to Ukraine who testified before the Schiff Kangaroo Court, was in bed with NABU as were members of the NSC including Ciaramella.

Here's a very long, detailed article about the mess in Ukraine, just compiled -- what a mess.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment

https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20191216/CRPT-116hrpt346.pdf

658 pages. 1) Ukraine; 2) Refusing to respond to House subpoenas.
A joke. No evidence for the first; second already to be decided by SCOTUS.

drcrinum said:

---

---

Quote:

---

Just got done with a deep throat type meeting

---

You know, sometimes boomers forget that Millennials can't really recall Watergate and that context is really critical to language.

Secolobo said:

---

---

Wow!!

Not doubting her veracity or analysis, but lots of listed Fed Codes, and a she jumps around in the timeline a lot.

If true, this is another lie being shoved down our throat. And a lie by omission of some key known facts...just like the FISA process. Perhaps there are more "errors" in our vaunted governmental processes...

drcrinum said:

---

https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20191216/CRPT-116hrpt346.pdf

658 pages. 1) Ukraine; 2) Refusing to respond to House subpoenas.
A joke. No evidence for the first; second already to be decided by SCOTUS.

---

From page 162 of the Report:

Quote:

---

To be sure, judicial review may at first blush seem desirable because "it would be an independent determination by an entity with no interest in the proceedings."902 But as this Committee has noted: "[T]he impeachment process itself provides an opportunity for such a determinationinitially by the House in deciding whether to prosecute the Article of Impeachment, and, ultimately, by the Senate, the tribunal for an impeachment trial. Neither the Committee nor the House would be the final judge of the validity of the Committee's subpoenas. Whether noncompliance with the subpoenas is a ground for impeachment would ultimately be adjudicated in the Senate."

---

Bold is mine.

The quote is from the House Judiciary Committee's report during the Nixon impeachment.

When the subpoena's were issued, there were no Articles of Impeachment, only vague allegations. Once the Articles of Impeachment were drafted, no testimony or further documents were solicited. I've been moving toward this for a few days, they are impeaching Trump for refusing to waive privilege in support of their fishing expedition which was, at best, tethered to only the vaguest and continually changing allegations of "high crimes and misdemeanors".

Interesting new tidbit from the IG Report

Page 96, footnote 221:

Quote:

---

221 As described earlier, Steele told us that by late July 2016, he had met with Simpson and an attorney from Perkins Coie, which represented the DNC, and by that time he was aware of the DNC's role.

---

Page 104 + footnote 233:

Quote:

---

E. Steele Discusses His Reporting with Third Parties in Late September 2016 and the Yahoo News Article

During late September 2016, with Fusion GPS's authorization, Steele met with numerous persons outside the FBI to discuss the intelligence he had obtained, as part of his paid work for Fusion GPS, concerning Russian interference with the 2016 U.S. elections and allegations regarding the Trump campaign and candidate Trump. 232 For example, as we discuss in Chapter Nine, emails exchanged between Steele and Ohr show that Steele visited Washington, D.C., beginning around September 21, 2016, and met with Ohr on September 23, at which time the two discussed multiple issues involving election related intelligence that Steele had collected. Steele told us that during this visit he also met with an attorney from Perkins Coie, who was general counsel to the Clinton campaign.233

Footnote:
233 Steele told us that he had a second meeting with this attorney in October 2016, and that he had met with another attorney from Perkins Coie in July 2016.

---

So Steele meet with Marc Elias of Perkins Coie in both September & October 2016, plus he met with another DNC attorney in late July 2016. Surely the latter was Michael Sussmann...remember him? He's the one who met with James Baker at the FBI in September 2016 in order to give him certain documents.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/oct/4/michael-sussmann-hillary-clinton-lawyer-gave-fbi-r/

Quote:

---

The sources said Baker identified lawyer Michael Sussman, a former DOJ lawyer, as the Perkins Coie attorney who reached out to him and said the firm gave him documents and a thumb drive related to Russian interference in the election, hacking and possible Trump connections.

---

drcrinum said:

---

You would probably be interested in this thread which was just posted.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1206310167651983362.html

---

Out of all the Republicans on the Hill, I trust Burr the least.

Everyone knows about Murkowski, Susan Collins, Sasse, etc., but Burr reminds me of a man who's impressed by the office and title he holds---ex officio. You never really know where people like him stand.

Long story short, I can't stand him.

Sydney retweeted her own quote...

Secolobo said:

---

Sydney retweeted her own quote...

---

This is what aggiehawg has been saying.

It won't be a report, but the telling of the story will be through the indictments that come from the investigation.

Can you imagine the whining and squealing that will take place when / if indictments are handed down? The Sunday morning talking heads will interview some of the likely targets who will be in full a$$-covering mode, and the complicit media will provide an echo chamber for them to clutch their pearls while attacking Durham and Barr.

A boy can dream, I suppose.

will25u said:

---

Secolobo said:

---

Sydney retweeted her own quote...

---

This is what aggiehawg has been saying.

It won't be a report, but the telling of the story will be through the indictments that come from the investigation.

---

Durham is a sitting United States Attorney bound by DOJ guidelines and rules. They do not comment on on-going investigations, nor do they comment when investigations are closed. Unless there is an indictment, they cannot comment at all.

As long as they have facts and evidence, let them scream. Do it.

drcrinum said:

---

The dominoes are starting to fall in Ukraine. NABU is a Soros backed organization, & Yovanovitch, the former American Ambassador to Ukraine who testified before the Schiff Kangaroo Court, was in bed with NABU as were members of the NSC including Ciaramella.

Here's a very long, detailed article about the mess in Ukraine, just compiled -- what a mess.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment

---

Quote:

---

Biden ally Artem Sytnyk, head of Ukraine anti-corruption NABU, convicted of corruption. Sytnyk met with Eric Ciaramella on Jan 19, 2016, where, according to Telizhenko, he was asked to dig dirt on Manafort.

---

This is going to be a very big issue at some point. We all know that Ciaramella is the whistle blower but not everyone realizes that the day after Trump's call with Zelensky he hired Sean Misko as a staffer. Misko had been working at the NSC with Ciaramella and supposedly they were very good friends. Schiff had hired former NSC staffers earlier in the year.

Schiff was desperate to find a reason to impeach Trump and clearly had staff and acquaintances working on it and it had to be done very soon. This was all set up and Ciaramella clearly lied about what was said during the call. They were burned by Trump releasing the transcript but still went all in. I don't know why Pelosi went all in, too. She would have been better served taking on the far left idiots in her party than a fake impeachment.

This all just stinks.

Quote:

---

Biden ally Artem Sytnyk, head of Ukraine anti-corruption NABU, convicted of corruption. Sytnyk met with Eric Ciaramella on Jan 19, 2016, where, according to Telizhenko, he was asked to dig dirt on Manafort.

---

Furthermore, although her memory seemed to fail her during her deposition of how many people she protected or intervened on behalf of in investigations by Ukrainian authorities (Lutsenko), Yovanovitch did remember she intervened on behalf of Artem Sytnyk.

Judge Sullivan not impressed with Powell

As predicted, without changing his plea, Flynn was sunk

Wow!