Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts
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I want to punch Comey's smug mug SOOOOO badly.
Dang it, Hawg, I was hoping you'd have a good reason for this to be reasonable.
I understand the hit them with the best shot rather than everything, but it seems early to be passing on anything.
I understand the hit them with the best shot rather than everything, but it seems early to be passing on anything.
Sorry man. Not seeing it from from my armchair, at least. Still like Barr and I'm inclined to give him more time to get more rope but this is puzzling to me.VegasAg86 said:
Dang it, Hawg, I was hoping you'd have a good reason for this to be reasonable.
I understand the hit them with the best shot rather than everything, but it seems early to be passing on anything.
FWIW, my congressman just got my first ***** letter. I know the guy pretty well, but it was a "voice of concern" type of message.
I was trying to remember to use my best blindey/Hawg/ Vegas/ legal banter. I know I didn't piss him off,, but I'll probably hear from him next week.
I was trying to remember to use my best blindey/Hawg/ Vegas/ legal banter. I know I didn't piss him off,, but I'll probably hear from him next week.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
This is backed by data.
Barr has him dead to rights on jaywalking but wants to fry him for the bank robbery.
At least I hope so.
At least I hope so.
Yeah, I know...everybody has one. My opinion is rapidly becoming..."America - the NEW 3rd world country". Hate to think it, but given current appearance of today's FBI and apparent two-tiered Criminal Justice System we are looking more and more just like another ****hole country. Shame on us.
Yep, Comey skating would be just about par for this shlty course we've been playing on. Sick of it.
It needs to happen soon. I'm tired of sounding like a conspiracy theorist to my family and friends who are much less informed than me. But I am not important. I hate seeing good lawmakers like Nunez and Jordan and people like Hannity and Levin and Carter not get results for their hard work and principles. I'm also very tired of seeing truly evil, bad people get to walk around like superior US citizens.
Exhibit A to show intent in the government's case to prosecute Comey and others under 923. 18 U.S.C. 371 - Consipiracy to Defraud the United States.VegasAg86 said:
Solomon was just on Hannity discussing this. IG referred for prosecution, AG declined prosecution. He thinks they're passing on this because they have him on bigger things (a fraudulent FISA application).
Legal question...benchmark said:Exhibit A to show intent in the government's case to prosecute Comey and others under 923. 18 U.S.C. 371 - Consipiracy to Defraud the United States.VegasAg86 said:
Solomon was just on Hannity discussing this. IG referred for prosecution, AG declined prosecution. He thinks they're passing on this because they have him on bigger things (a fraudulent FISA application).
Or, is it "Decline to prosecute now, but we'll surely throw this into the mix...in due time."
Hannity and Graham talking about it.
Sundance does some spelunking on Solomon's article.
He then goes on to say this separate IG report solely on Comey will be made public shortly. I tend to disagree since the criminal referral has resulted in a declination decision. It is against DOJ policy to publish that information. That's why Comey's July 2016 Hillary presser was wrong and Mueller's report being made public, particularly in the format in which is was written was wrong.
In the words of Trey Gowdy, "Charge or STFU."
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First, go read the full Solomon article. Notice the entire construct of the article surrounds "The Comey Memos". As you will see, this specific topic is important. Within the Solomon article you will find (emphasis mine):Quote:
[] Inspector General (IG) Michael Horowitz's team referred Comey for possible prosecution under the classified information protection laws, but Department of Justice (DOJ) prosecutors working for Attorney General William Barr reportedly have decided to decline prosecution a decision that's likely to upset Comey's conservative critics.
Prosecutors found the IG's findings compelling but decided not to bring charges because they did not believe they had enough evidence of Comey's intent to violate the law, according to multiple sources.It sounds like the OIG report on FISA abuse is in the end-stages. What is described in the highlighted sentence above would be what is technically called "The Principal Review Phase of the OIG Final Draft". That's where targets are given the opportunity to review an IG report and provide feedback prior to public release.Quote:
[] Patrick Fitzgerald and Daniel Richman, two of Comey's lawyers, and Keith Urbahn, his spokesman, did not return repeated calls and emails seeking comment.
[] While they cautioned that the IG's final report won't be complete until it gets feedback from Comey's lawyers in the next few days, it is expected to conclude that the former FBI director improperly took with him memos that were FBI property when he was fired, transmitted classified information via an insecure email account, and shared some of the memos with his private lawyers. (read more)
However. Note: This reference is not to the IG report on FISA Abuse.
Full Stop.
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From the outset it was reported and confirmed that U.S. Attorney John Huber was assigned to assist Inspector General Michael Horowitz. Huber's job was to stand-by in case the IG carved out a particular concern, discovered during his investigation, that might involve criminal conduct.
Earlier this week Matt Whitaker said: "John Huber is reviewing anything related to Comey's memos and the like."
Put the two data points together and what you realize is that during the OIG review of potential DOJ and FBI FISA abuse IG Horowitz investigated the Comey Memo's and then passed that specific issue along to John Huber for DOJ review.
The IG criminal referral for the James Comey memo leaking was a carve-out sent to U.S. Attorney John Huber.
He then goes on to say this separate IG report solely on Comey will be made public shortly. I tend to disagree since the criminal referral has resulted in a declination decision. It is against DOJ policy to publish that information. That's why Comey's July 2016 Hillary presser was wrong and Mueller's report being made public, particularly in the format in which is was written was wrong.
In the words of Trey Gowdy, "Charge or STFU."
Thanks, I think!
After this news broke last night, I remember thinking how joyful it is to occasionally be blissfully ignorant. However, that's some provocative thinking by Sundance.
After this news broke last night, I remember thinking how joyful it is to occasionally be blissfully ignorant. However, that's some provocative thinking by Sundance.
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so all of this was just a bunch of talk as usual? who could have seen that coming.
I am in disbelief that Barr isn't going to bring charges against Comey. I am dumbfounded.
Does this info regarding Comey being a separate "carve out" specifically about Comey (assuming the author is correct) imply anything about the larger FISA investigation?
Meaning does it imply that there is nothing for Comey to worry about in the larger investigation, or was this being "carved out" likely just because it was distinct and unrelated to the larger investigation?
Meaning does it imply that there is nothing for Comey to worry about in the larger investigation, or was this being "carved out" likely just because it was distinct and unrelated to the larger investigation?
“Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy. It's inherent virtue is the equal sharing of miseries." - Winston Churchill
pagerman @ work said:
Does this info regarding Comey being a separate "carve out" specifically about Comey (assuming the author is correct) imply anything about the larger FISA investigation?
Meaning does it imply that there is nothing for Comey to worry about in the larger investigation, or was this being "carved out" likely just because it was distinct and unrelated to the larger investigation?
My opinion it implies nothing.
I'd say it was an unrelated matter to Horowitz's core work on FISA abuse so he referred it to Huber who then consulted with Durham and Barr about it.pagerman @ work said:
Does this info regarding Comey being a separate "carve out" specifically about Comey (assuming the author is correct) imply anything about the larger FISA investigation?
Meaning does it imply that there is nothing for Comey to worry about in the larger investigation, or was this being "carved out" likely just because it was distinct and unrelated to the larger investigation?
IOW the FISA abuse report is still coming. It seems the Kavalec/Steele interviews resulted in a last minute re-jiggering of Horowitz's conclusions.
At a minimum I would like to see Comey get the McCabe treatment and lose his pension. There needs to be real consequences, especially for the people in charge. They should be held to a higher standard.
No.pagerman @ work said:
Does this info regarding Comey being a separate "carve out" specifically about Comey (assuming the author is correct) imply anything about the larger FISA investigation?
Meaning does it imply that there is nothing for Comey to worry about in the larger investigation, or was this being "carved out" likely just because it was distinct and unrelated to the larger investigation?
Solomon said they passed on this because they have him on bigger things, one being a fraudulent FISA application.
Not bringing charges FOR THIS THING. It hasn't been said they're not bringing charges against him at all.Old_Ag_91 said:
I am in disbelief that Barr isn't going to bring charges against Comey. I am dumbfounded.
To all who are saying they are just passing on indictment for this thing as its smaller than all the rest. Well, they are different crimes. Why in the world would we not just charge him with everything? We are holding off on only the big charges? Why?
I am more of a throw everything and the kitchen sink type of gal but when you are dealing with a long time swamp creature like Comey who knows where a lot of skeletons are buried, there is a need for caution and weighing of the cost benefit analysis.Tibbers said:
To all who are saying they are just passing on indictment for this thing as its smaller than all the rest. Well, they are different crimes. Why in the world would we not just charge him with everything? We are holding off on only the big charges? Why?
For whatever reason, the costs outweighed the benefits on the matter of the memos.
In part, optics. Indicting him for every little thing invites the "doing it for politics" criticism that can be used against him in the election. Instead, hit him with a big, very provable to everyone thing and be done with all that.Tibbers said:
To all who are saying they are just passing on indictment for this thing as its smaller than all the rest. Well, they are different crimes. Why in the world would we not just charge him with everything? We are holding off on only the big charges? Why?
^ Wished I knew what that means!
The documents given to Judicial Watch yesterday contradict what DOJ has said in previous court filings regarding the Comey memos. How many and when the FBI had retrieved them from Comey. Aso, it appears Comey lied under oath during his testimony the day after the FBI searched his home for the memos.whatthehey78 said:
^ Wished I knew what that means!
Where is the 302 on that FBI interview of Comey? Sounds like he was lying to the FBI too. And the DOJ then lied to the court.
AggieHawg-- with your legal knowledge and expertise, do you believe Comey gets the same treatment as Papa, Flynn, Manafort or anyone else not associated with Hillary?aggiehawg said:The documents given to Judicial Watch yesterday contradict what DOJ has said in previous court filings regarding the Comey memos. How many and when the FBI had retrieved them from Comey. Aso, it appears Comey lied under oath during his testimony the day after the FBI searched his home for the memos.whatthehey78 said:
^ Wished I knew what that means!
Where is the 302 on that FBI interview of Comey? Sounds like he was lying to the FBI too. And the DOJ then lied to the court.
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Hope you're right bud.
No, I don't because Barr is an ethical prosecutor and not a scorched earth raining down hell on his targets like the Mueller/Weissmann team.Quote:
AggieHawg-- with your legal knowledge and expertise, do you believe Comey gets the same treatment as Papa, Flynn, Manafort or anyone else not associated with Hillary?
Comey will be allowed to turn himself in after his lawyers are called to bring him in for formal booking. There will be none of the no-knock-pre-dawn raids with SWAT teams and guns drawn.
Hawg, appreciate ur straight forward opinion on this. Thank you. I may not necessarily like it that they don't humiliate the rat ******* but I respect it all the same.
https://threader.app/thread/1157034985393668102
Undercover Huber's thread on why Comey won't be prosecuted over the memo leaks...Comey was negligent but not grossly negligent...not a watertight case.