Thank you for posting this, Adam seems to be a very solid guy.

It seems like an "easy" option here would be for the president to impanel a special agency made up of investigators outside of the DOJ, FBI, etc as a tip-line if you will. Put the full court press on these people. Also offering protection and immunity where warranted.

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Thank you for posting this, Adam seems to be a very solid guy.

It seems like an "easy" option here would be for the president to impanel a special agency made up of investigators outside of the DOJ, FBI, etc as a tip-line if you will. Put the full court press on these people. Also offering protection and immunity where warranted.

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That's what alan Dershowitz has been pushing for for 2 years, instead of another special counsel. Like they did for the 9/11 Commission. But even then, not sure they could get a nonpartisan commission unless they get people that have never been in government. I think the 9/11 Commission covered up a ton of shortcomings from the Bush and Clinton administrations, because there were people sounding the alarm in advance and no one was listening or chose not to and were ignoring it.

Twitter is such a train wreck right now with all this SCOTUS nonsense it's swamped with two subjects I refuse to get involved in, Roe v Wade and Rape accusations. I want constitutionalist judges as bad as anyone, but this circus is too far off the rails with nonsense.

Which is why Trump must fight this to the end.
If Dems win this (remember they did not stop Thomas) it will be the strategy on every Republican nomination forever.

I would hope voters would make Dems pay for this strategy but unfortunately too many suburban white women voters let emotion rule and easily (played) buy into MSM group think.

It seems no matter the situation, responsible parties, etc. we end up in the same place. People who we elect to find solutions and fix the problems retreat back into their echo chambers and point fingers as if somehow winning the next popularity contest in 2, 4, or 6 years will fix it all. Who am I kidding though. When they do decide to do something, it usually turns out to be the most complicated solution making things worse.

Create a temporary agency (for now) independent of the DOJ, FBI, CIA, etc for whistle blowers. Setup investigation and prosecution arms to assist. Offer protection and even immunity where it makes sense. Then open the flood gates. Just like in a workplace, there are always people who just want to go to work and do things the right way. Give the white hats cover and they will lead you to the bad guys.

My question is: Were the Brits initially responsible for manipulating Brennan into plotting against Trump, or was it Brennan manipulating the Brits into assisting in overthrowing Trump? If it was the latter, then why would the UK be so concerned about such a revelation? I am beginning to suspect that not only were the Brits in on the scheme from the beginning, but they initially may have planted the seeds to hatch the plot.

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My question is: Were the Brits initially responsible for manipulating Brennan into plotting against Trump, or was it Brennan manipulating the Brits into assisting in overthrowing Trump? If it was the latter, then why would the UK be so concerned about such a revelation? I am beginning to suspect that not only were the Brits in on the scheme from the beginning, but they initially may have planted the seeds to hatch the plot.

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POTUS was a driving force with the Brexit movement, he was on record speaking out about Brexit back in the initial planning of the Turnberry Country Club/Golf Course in Scotland way back in 2013. The Crown loyalists hated him back then. You can bet the minute he came down that escalator they started digging on him then.

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drcrinum said:

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My question is: Were the Brits initially responsible for manipulating Brennan into plotting against Trump, or was it Brennan manipulating the Brits into assisting in overthrowing Trump? If it was the latter, then why would the UK be so concerned about such a revelation? I am beginning to suspect that not only were the Brits in on the scheme from the beginning, but they initially may have planted the seeds to hatch the plot.

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POTUS was a driving force with the Brexit movement, he was on record speaking out about Brexit back in the initial planning of the Turnberry Country Club/Golf Course in Scotland way back in 2013. The Crown loyalists hated him back then. You can bet the minute he came down that escalator they started digging on him then.

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They don't have our pesky constitution and he's not a citizen, so there were likely no restrictions on what they could do surveillance wise. Yet there's still no evidence of collusion.

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My question is: Were the Brits initially responsible for manipulating Brennan into plotting against Trump, or was it Brennan manipulating the Brits into assisting in overthrowing Trump? If it was the latter, then why would the UK be so concerned about such a revelation? I am beginning to suspect that not only were the Brits in on the scheme from the beginning, but they initially may have planted the seeds to hatch the plot.

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POTUS was a driving force with the Brexit movement, he was on record speaking out about Brexit back in the initial planning of the Turnberry Country Club/Golf Course in Scotland way back in 2013. The Crown loyalists hated him back then. You can bet the minute he came down that escalator they started digging on him then.

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They don't have our pesky constitution and he's not a citizen, so there were likely no restrictions on what they could do surveillance wise. Yet there's still no evidence of collusion.

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But the fact of the matter was they were using the FVEY relationship and the NSA database to do it. That's a big problem.

Absolutely.

Just do it and quit threatening to do it.

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Just do it and quit threatening to do it.

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And if they don't do it Tuesday they'll Really threaten to do it Thursday, and then double threaten to do it next Monday. Yawn. March down the street and get them.

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The New York Times's story is inaccurate and factually incorrect. . . . I will not further comment on a story based on anonymous sources who are obviously biased against the department and are advancing their own personal agenda. But let me be clear about this: Based on my personal dealings with the president, there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment.

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Let's parse this.

• The Times story "is inaccurate and factually incorrect." Rosenstein won't say exactly what is wrong in the report. He is careful not to say that the gist of the report is wrong he just hopes that, if he sounds indignant enough, you will hear it that way. The Times may have gotten a few details wrong, but you can bet the story is essentially true.
• You can't trust "anonymous sources": this from the guy who, in approving a FISA warrant application to spy on an American political campaign, relied on anonymous sources some of them Russian operatives who were channeling information through a foreign spy from whom the Justice Department continued to take information even after telling a federal court that the spy had been cut out of the investigation for leaking to the media.
• And my favorite: Rosenstein knows "there is no basis to invoke the 25th Amendment" against President Trump. Of course, that does not respond to what the Times report actually says, which is that back in May 2017, when he was an emotional wreck because Democrats were being mean to him, Rosenstein urged that there might at that time be a basis to remove the president under the 25th Amendment (specifically, Section 4) if he could get enough top officials to agree that Trump was unfit to discharge his duties.

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So I've seen press about Rosenstein resigning.

Well something is definitely up. If he is resigning, then those FISA documents must be really damning.

So is this another episode of Fake News? Or a leak sting? Or...

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So is this another episode of Fake News? Or a leak sting? Or...

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I would love it for Rosie to waltz into the oval with his cocky ass and say just that. Trump could simply look at him and say, "I'm not going to fire you. It's going to be excellent press when the US Marshall's perp walk your ass from your office you little twerp."

Seems like we still have a domestic counter-intelligence operation going on. No?

Fox has a live camera on the White House driveway. Lots of folks reporting he is headed there, but who knows why or who he would be meeting with if Trump is not there.

Judge Nap on Fox now saying if RR is fired/resigns, his new job would be Noel Francisco, Solicitor General and former clerk to Scalia.

That's one way to change the trend on Twitter to the Dems attacking him, instead of terrorizing Kavanaugh and his family.

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Fox has a live camera on the White House driveway. Lots of folks reporting he is headed there, but who knows why or who he would be meeting with if Trump is not there.

Judge Nap on Fox now saying if RR is fired/resigns, his new job would be Noel Francisco, Solicitor General and former clerk to Scalia.

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Are you trying to say that Noel Francisco would replace RR?

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Fox has a live camera on the White House driveway. Lots of folks reporting he is headed there, but who knows why or who he would be meeting with if Trump is not there.

Judge Nap on Fox now saying if RR is fired/resigns, his new job would be Noel Francisco, Solicitor General and former clerk to Scalia.

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Are you trying to say that Noel Francisco would replace RR?

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No I don't think that is exactly right, just that if RR is gone, Mueller's new boss would be NF. NF would not move into RR's position, he would just be reporting to NF until another Deputy AG is confirmed.

Lots of confusion out there though. Here are the bullet points from CNBC which seem to contradict one another:

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• Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein is resigning, according to Axios, which cited a source familiar with the matter.
• "He's expecting to be fired," a source close to Rosenstein told Axios, the website reported Monday. He plans to step down, Axios reported.
• NBC News' Pete Williams, however, reported that Rosenstein would not resign of his own accord, and that he will only depart if the White House fired him. He will refuse to resign if asked to do so, Williams added.

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Trump will not fire RR. So he will resign. RR will think that a resignation will be viewed by the MSM as Trump forcing him to resign due to Trump being paranoid about the Russia investigation and RR is trying to protect the investigation.

Que the press comparing this to the Saturday Night Massacre. MSM to go crazy.

(Edit: I type slower then the news comes out)

I wonder if he will get strip searched for a wire when he gets to the door of the WH.