aggie2812-2 said:

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In aggiehawg we trust! Speaking truth as always.

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How long is this thread now? Almost seven hundred pages? And I didn't even come into the thread for a several days after it started?

But how many times have I been revealed to be pretty close to being on the money in my instincts?

Not batting 1000 but every baseball team would want me for my average.

Lib lawyers don't like to be called out and corrected, especially when their bias outweighs their brains. But you knew that I bet!

Rockdoc said:

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Lib lawyers don't like to be called out and corrected, especially when their bias outweighs their brains. But you knew that I bet!

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I was trying to be patient and nice. I have no problem with "Hawgsplaining" to those who are IANALs.

People who claim to be attorneys yet use Google to try to throw weird, irrelevant crap up try my patience.

Make no mistake, our justice system is not perfect, far from it. The rules are there to try to make it as close as possible. When the FBI/DOJ and the federal judiciary is willingly complicit (not to mention horribly educated in law school) to actively subvert and obstruct justice for purely political reasons? That is where we are.

MASAXET said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Lib lawyers don't like to be called out and corrected, especially when their bias outweighs their brains. But you knew that I bet!

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Do you mind showing me where I was corrected? I must have missed it.

Is this statement true or false: conspiracy to commit an offense against the US is a crime under the US Code?

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Define "against the United States".

NM. Anger got the best of me.

Agnzona said:

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MASAXET said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Lib lawyers don't like to be called out and corrected, especially when their bias outweighs their brains. But you knew that I bet!

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Do you mind showing me where I was corrected? I must have missed it.

Is this statement true or false: conspiracy to commit an offense against the US is a crime under the US Code?

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I think Hillary conspiring with the Brits, Russians, DNC and Media to undermine a US election might just qualify.

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Lots of people have conspired against Trump.

MASAXET said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Lib lawyers don't like to be called out and corrected, especially when their bias outweighs their brains. But you knew that I bet!

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Do you mind showing me where I was corrected? I must have missed it.

Is this statement true or false: conspiracy to commit an offense against the US is a crime under the US Code?

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No I don't mind!

I'm here to tell you, they will not release anything self-damaging before the midterms. You guys think they care about a directive from the White House? They don't give a fuc what trump says. They have a protocol that they think they control. They will evade, deflect, delay, and finally claim national security will be compromised because of the sources and methods used to ensnare the very Russian collusion they were charged to investigate.

Bonfire1996 said:

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I'm here to tell you, they will not release anything self-damaging before the midterms. You guys think they care about a directive from the White House? They don't give a fuc what trump says. They have a protocol that they think they control. They will evade, deflect, delay, and finally claim national security will be compromised because of the sources and methods used to ensnare the very Russian collusion they were charged to investigate.

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Wouldn't his people have access to the information? What stops Trump from just releasing it without their consent?

If he doesn't have direct access, what stops him sending the U.S. Marshall service to seize it? Or in a lesser nuclear option method, White House lawyers.

I mean all that would be extreme, but I don't see how they can stop him in the long run. He is the ultimate classification authority. Their power derives from his office to keep things classified or not.

Rockdoc said:

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And what if trump already has the documents?

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I hope he does. He should release them via twitter. He should fire dozens of people at the DoJ and FBI yesterday. But he won't. And they know it, and therefore they will delay and deflect.

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Wildcat said:

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That's when you start firing people on national television.

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Doesn't Horowitz already have the un-redacted documents anyway?

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If so, what are we talking about? Just put them out there.

He probably had rather go through the correct channels, but if they refuse, BOOM!

I can't remember but I'm pretty sure Horowitz has all the text messages because he had to go to other agencies to get the tools/expertise to recover texts from database on the phones themselves that the FBI didn't know existed.

I don't know about the FISA application though.

I still think Hawg is dead on when she said, many moons ago, that Mueller will now use this as an obstruction charge.

I'm sure that's what WH legal guys have been stressing over for the last week. Now we'll see, because I think it's coming. I've wondered how few, even the guys on Fox, and other conservative outlets, haven't mentioned this.

akm91 said:

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I can't remember but I'm pretty sure Horowitz has all the text messages because he had to go to other agencies to get the tools/expertise to recover texts from database on the phones themselves that the FBI didn't know existed.

I don't know about the FISA application though.

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The only IG report that we have seen from him so far was his review of the HRC Email Investigation. I think his reports on FISA, etc. are either ongoing or just not released yet.

Mueller can write a report on obstruction but I don't think there's anything there. The libs and MSM will latch onto it, but nothing will come of it. They'll impeach him if they can find a way for any reason.

fasthorses05 said:

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I still think Hawg is dead on when she said, many moons ago, that Mueller will now use this as an obstruction charge.

I'm sure that's what WH legal guys have been stressing over for the last week. Now we'll see, because I think it's coming. I've wondered how few, even the guys on Fox, and other conservative outlets, haven't mentioned this.

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He has already supposedly stated he can't charge a sitting President. So his only shot at stopping Trump is his report to the DOJ. Obstruction is a fairly tale IMO. Trump would be done with his first term before this could go through all the legal challenges required to charge him with anything. He has to know this. By then, all this crap has seen the light of day and Trump is clear to fire those in the DOJ protecting Mueller.

I'm not naive, I know this isn't the end of the fight, but it sure is a step in the right direction.

tsuag10 said:

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akm91 said:

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I can't remember but I'm pretty sure Horowitz has all the text messages because he had to go to other agencies to get the tools/expertise to recover texts from database on the phones themselves that the FBI didn't know existed.

I don't know about the FISA application though.

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The only IG report that we have seen from him so far was his review of the HRC Email Investigation. I think his reports on FISA, etc. are either ongoing or just not released yet.

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Page and Strzok were both involved with the HRC email investigation and their text messages were within Horowitz' purview. Looks like he has all of them, un-redacted.

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Horowitz said that while the initial process of obtaining Strzok-Page messages from the FBI was "easy," recovering the "We'll stop it" text proved "challenging." He also said that the painstaking process used to recover the message and others raises concerns about the FBI's text message retention system.

Horowitz said that the OIG's cyber forensic team obtained Strzok and Page's FBI phones in order to extract any missing text messages. The team then relied on an outside contractor that the agency frequently uses in order to see whether there were other forensic tools that could extract messages from the phones.

"They provided us with some additional tools, so we did a second extraction and gained more text messages," Horowitz testified.
The third step was an outreach to the Department of Defense to see if Pentagon experts had any other tools that could be used for the investigation.

"They gave us those tools and we used that and we extracted more text messages," said Horowitz.
The Aug. 8, 2016 Strzok text was discovered during a routine quality control check that the OIG conducted in early May, Horowitz said.

OIG's forensic examiners discovered "that the phone had a database on it that was actually also doing a collection of text messages," said Horowitz.

"They extracted those messages from the phone and found the second part of the August 8 text, 'No, no, We'll stop it.'"

"It turned out that the FBI wasn't aware that that database on there, which was supposed to be an operating function, was actually collecting data," explained Horowitz, who plans to release a report on the OIG's text message recovery process.

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Example of FBI technical "expertise"

Yes. That sounds right. Those are the texts that took them 4 tries to recover (perfectly normal, right?).

Some MAD Dems tonight...

Gotta tell you Dems, it gets worse after today, get some rest, it ain't getting any better !

James OKeefe is one bad dude... if I could come back to earth as someone else.. I would come as myself but have the balls of James OKeefe .. dude is nails, not scared of the deep state. Patriot

If Trump had bull balls hanging from his plane, they would look like James OKeefe Balls

Panic is setting in, and this pencil neck is tweeting nonsense out of desperation.

The new narrative

And the irony of this, Swallowswell "dared the President to declassify all the surveillance documents back in April 2017. Bluff Called



https://www.swalwellforcongress.com/swalwell_dares_trump_declassify_the_surveillance_documents