Articles of Impeachment on Rosenstein coming out? Just announced on Martha's show??

Yup

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/398902-gop-lawmakers-introduce-impeachment-resolution-against-rosenstein

aggiehawg said:

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BMX Bandit said:

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Anytime Napolitano or Jarrett are brought on for "legal analysis" it's high comedy

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At this point, Jarrett is more reliable than Napolitano. I use to give Nap a little more credence because of his ties to Trump and his legal team. But he just gets the facts too wrong, like he's watching CNN instead of Fox.

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As disappointing as it sounds, Jarrett is more believable now than Napolitano. It's as if their psyches were somehow switched a yr ago.

Jarrett use to irritate me with his analysis, Nap was clean Libertarian. Now, they have flipped. Nap has been compromised, I think.

I doubt it will go anywhere.

Isn't this interesting. Still no word on msn.com or aol.com and various online portals. Even as a "breaking news" banner. Its all Michael Cohen. This is pretty interesting slanting

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drcrinum said:

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I doubt it will go anywhere.

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I have no problem with it, they just don't have the votes. They'll have 20 Republicans vote against it.

Now, I'm not a legal scholar, like some of y'all are, but IF the Legislature has oversight of the DOJ, and IF eight of those individuals have clearance at the highest level, and IF they ask for something from the DOJ/FBI, then aren't they required to give it to them?

It's not like this is the first time Congress has asked for it. Do we need to wait another 2-4 years? Or, should we sit on our hands and not do the job they've been elected to do? Just a question (or several).

https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2018/07/us-intelligence-community-as-collapse.html?m=1

A tongue-in-check post about the US Intelligence Community (long) by an author. Sort of reminds me in a way of H. L. Mencken but a little more subtle.

Looks like Wray is making Strozk testify again

DeWrecking Crew said:

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Looks like Wray is making Strozk testify again

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I kinda wish they'd just do it behind closed doors - big waste of time letting the democrats grandstand and ask about immigration and tax returns and whatnot for the cameras.

FbgTxAg said:

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DeWrecking Crew said:

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Looks like Wray is making Strozk testify again

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I kinda wish they'd just do it behind closed doors - big waste of time letting the democrats grandstand and ask about immigration and tax returns and whatnot for the cameras.

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Or better yet adopt committee rules against filibustering off hearing topic. Violate it once you get a warning, after that you forfeit your time.

That's a great order from Ellis. Shows he's on top of it and will monitor Team Mueller's actions closely if they stray too far afield.

Manafort's lawyers should be fine with that.

aggiehawg said:

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That's a great order from Ellis. Shows he's on top of it and will monitor Team Mueller's actions closely if they stray too far afield.

Manafort's lawyers should be fine with that.

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Yes he was extremely fair with his rulings

Speaker Ryan isn't going to go along with the process. What else is new.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Assuming the Shearer Memo made its way into the FISA application, at least in part, wouldn't the plotters want to keep it entirely separate from Steele, thereby presenting it as independently 'verifying' some of Steele's info? (I am using the word 'verify' in the sense the plotters did in the FISA application.) If so, that would explain why Steele's October 1, 2016 report wasn't included in the BuzzFeed account.

FbgTxAg said:

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DeWrecking Crew said:

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Looks like Wray is making Strozk testify again

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I kinda wish they'd just do it behind closed doors - big waste of time letting the democrats grandstand and ask about immigration and tax returns and whatnot for the cameras.

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Yup. Needs to be behind closed doors. He doesn't need to earn another purple heart.

Verne Lundquist said:

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L O ****ing L

Verne Lundquist said:

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W. T. F.

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But privately, some of the lawyers have expressed concern that Mr. Mueller will stitch together several episodes, encounters and pieces of evidence, like the tweets, to build a case that the president embarked on a broad effort to interfere with the investigation. Prosecutors who lack one slam-dunk piece of evidence in obstruction cases often search for a larger pattern of behavior, legal experts said.

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House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) revealed in an interview on Thursday on "Rising" that the committee is probing whether the FBI sent informants to gather dirt on President Trump and possible ties to Russia prior to the authorized investigation, which was launched in July of 2016.

"It's one of the outstanding questions that we have for the Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. We've had that question out to them for pretty much three months now. They have not answered it yet," Nunes told Hill.TV's Buck Sexton, who sat down with the lawmaker on Wednesday.

"Is it your belief it is likely that there was activity going on in advance of the start of that official FBI investigation?" Sexton asked.

"I will just tell you we wouldn't be asking those questions if we didn't think we had some suspicion of that," Nunes responded. "The problem with this is, running informants into political campaigns, or political campaign actors on the counterintelligence side especially, is a major problem."

"It's because we give special powers to our counterintelligence officials because really a lot of Americans' basic rights are taken away through that process because it's dealing with national security, it's usually high level," he continued.

"So there should be a very high bar before you open up a counterintelligence investigation. So if you are running informants into campaigns before or after you open an official investigation, most Americans, when you sit them down and talk to them, they know that that's something really bad and that only happens in third world countries."

Nunes' comments come after a group of conservative House lawmakers introduced articles of impeachment against Rosenstein, who has been overseeing the federal probe into Russian election interference since Attorney General Jeff Sessions recused himself last year.

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Well, Obama did his best to turn the US into a third world country. He spied on everyone. Must be a really paranoid guy.

Napolitano is ad-libbing legal stupidity on the Outnumbered show over this. He literally thinks he's George Joseph Kresge.

NYT twitter story: Very fake news

Eventually the masses are going to have to come to grips that 60% of those redactions aren't national security, but it could possibly put into question 1000's of past cases, from the ripple effect of the fallout , if the level of misconduct, rises high enough that it could legally taint any case they touched in lengthy careers. Not saying jail doors fly open and people walk, but it raises questions and open the door for legal argument. Like the DNA lab scandal did in Harris County, the DOJ will not disclose any more than they are legally forced to.

ROBERT MUELLER: UNMASKED by Congressman Louie Gohmert

Fantastic Read/Roasting of Mueller

I think it is probable that some ethically questionable practices may be a brought to light and that is a significant component of what has been redacted.

good stuff.

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In 2006, the Robert Mueller

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led FBI took horrendously unjust actions to derail Curt
Weldon's re
-
election bid just weeks before the vote

actions that were
later described
as a "hit job" in
this
WND
article:
"Each of Weldon's 10 previous re
-
elections had been by sizable
margins. Polls showed he was up by 5
-
7 points [in the fall of 2006].
Three weeks prior to the election, however, a national story ran
about Weldon
based upon anonymous
sources
that an
investigation was underway against him and his daughter,
alleging illegal activities involving his congressional work.
Weldon had received no prior notification of any such
investigation and was dumbfounded that such a story would run
espe
cially since he regularly briefed the FBI and intelligence
agencies on his work.
"People say those kinds
of things just don't
happen in America..."

10
A week after the news story broke, alleging a need to act quickly
because of the leak, FBI agents from Washington raided the home
of Weldon's daughter at 7 a.m. on a Monday m
orning...
Local TV
and print media had all been alerted to the raid in advance
and
were already in position to cover the story. Within hours,
Democratic protesters were waving "Caught Red
-
Handed" signs
outside Weldon's district office in Upper Darby.
In the
ensuing two weeks, local and national media ran multiple
stories implying that Weldon too must have been under
investigation. Given the coverage, Weldon lost the election...
To this day, incredibly, no one in authority has talked to Weldon
or his daughter
about the raid or the investigation.
There was no
follow up, no questions, no grand jury interrogation, nothing.
One year after the raid the local FBI office called Weldon's
daughter to have her come get the property that had been
removed from her home.
That was it...The raid ruined the career
of Weldon and his daughter."

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Sounds like he got the Manafort, Page, Cohen treatment

Since congress created the DOJ and in turn the FBI, they need to pass legislation that requires the DOJ and all entities of it, to electronically record all interviews, and do away with the 302 nonsense. Treat it like a billion depositions that have been legally admissible in court for decades.

FriscoKid said:

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good stuff.

Quote:

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In 2006, the Robert Mueller

-
led FBI took horrendously unjust actions to derail Curt
Weldon's re
-
election bid just weeks before the vote

actions that were
later described
as a "hit job" in
this
WND
article:
"Each of Weldon's 10 previous re
-
elections had been by sizable
margins. Polls showed he was up by 5
-
7 points [in the fall of 2006].
Three weeks prior to the election, however, a national story ran
about Weldon
based upon anonymous
sources
that an
investigation was underway against him and his daughter,
alleging illegal activities involving his congressional work.
Weldon had received no prior notification of any such
investigation and was dumbfounded that such a story would run
espe
cially since he regularly briefed the FBI and intelligence
agencies on his work.
"People say those kinds
of things just don't
happen in America..."

10
A week after the news story broke, alleging a need to act quickly
because of the leak, FBI agents from Washington raided the home
of Weldon's daughter at 7 a.m. on a Monday m
orning...
Local TV
and print media had all been alerted to the raid in advance
and
were already in position to cover the story. Within hours,
Democratic protesters were waving "Caught Red
-
Handed" signs
outside Weldon's district office in Upper Darby.
In the
ensuing two weeks, local and national media ran multiple
stories implying that Weldon too must have been under
investigation. Given the coverage, Weldon lost the election...
To this day, incredibly, no one in authority has talked to Weldon
or his daughter
about the raid or the investigation.
There was no
follow up, no questions, no grand jury interrogation, nothing.
One year after the raid the local FBI office called Weldon's
daughter to have her come get the property that had been
removed from her home.
That was it...The raid ruined the career
of Weldon and his daughter."

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Sounds like he got the Manafort, Page, Cohen treatment

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Going forward...I, for one, will take similar FBI/DOJ practices and MSM stories with a substantial grain of salt. Two sides to every coin and each apparently needs be analyzed whether it's a forgery. It is getting harder and harder to know whom to believe...regardless of the purported evidence/facts. At some point, we're all going to regret the direction society has taken and the untrustworthy condition its become.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Speaker Ryan isn't going to go along with the process. What else is new.

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I was pretty excited about Ryan in 2012.

He's dead to me now.

There is no "process" to go along with. The sponsors aren't even trying to get it voted on. Its all a show.

Verne Lundquist said:

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This proves beyond any doubt that "Russia, Russia, Russia" is a dead end for the Mueller impeachment brigade, so they've moved on to something which they can toss out for virtually anything. The only thing even more vague is "lying to the FBI" which usually means getting a fact wrong after numerous interviews on over the same things.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Napolitano is ad-libbing legal stupidity on the Outnumbered show over this. He literally thinks he's George Joseph Kresge.

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Trump must have killed his cat or something, because Nap has gone full on anti-Trump in the past few months.

FriscoKid said:

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good stuff.

Quote:

---

In 2006, the Robert Mueller

-
led FBI took horrendously unjust actions to derail Curt
Weldon's re
-
election bid just weeks before the vote

actions that were
later described
as a "hit job" in
this
WND
article:
"Each of Weldon's 10 previous re
-
elections had been by sizable
margins. Polls showed he was up by 5
-
7 points [in the fall of 2006].
Three weeks prior to the election, however, a national story ran
about Weldon
based upon anonymous
sources
that an
investigation was underway against him and his daughter,
alleging illegal activities involving his congressional work.
Weldon had received no prior notification of any such
investigation and was dumbfounded that such a story would run
espe
cially since he regularly briefed the FBI and intelligence
agencies on his work.
"People say those kinds
of things just don't
happen in America..."

10
A week after the news story broke, alleging a need to act quickly
because of the leak, FBI agents from Washington raided the home
of Weldon's daughter at 7 a.m. on a Monday m
orning...
Local TV
and print media had all been alerted to the raid in advance
and
were already in position to cover the story. Within hours,
Democratic protesters were waving "Caught Red
-
Handed" signs
outside Weldon's district office in Upper Darby.
In the
ensuing two weeks, local and national media ran multiple
stories implying that Weldon too must have been under
investigation. Given the coverage, Weldon lost the election...
To this day, incredibly, no one in authority has talked to Weldon
or his daughter
about the raid or the investigation.
There was no
follow up, no questions, no grand jury interrogation, nothing.
One year after the raid the local FBI office called Weldon's
daughter to have her come get the property that had been
removed from her home.
That was it...The raid ruined the career
of Weldon and his daughter."

---

Sounds like he got the Manafort, Page, Cohen treatment

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"Local TV and print media had all been alerted to the raid in advance and were already in position to cover the story. Within hours, Democratic protesters were waving "Caught Red -Handed" signs outside Weldon's district office in Upper Darby."

This collusion between law enforcement and the press must stop. Anyone who leaks something like an impending raid should be jailed. This is one of the reasons people are sour on both the press and law enforcement.