Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Should we sic the Outdoors Board or Old Rivalries on him?
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original article here:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/01/trump-putin-summit-in-works-report-says.html

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Trump-Putin summit in the works, report says

A possible summit between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin is reportedly in the works.

Trying to organize the meeting between the two world leaders "has been an ongoing project" for Jon Huntsman, the U.S. ambassador to Russia, a senior administration official told the The Wall Street Journal on Friday. The ambassador has reportedly been in the nation's capital working on it.

"This has been an ongoing project of Ambassador Huntsman, stretching back months, of getting a formal meeting between Putin and Trump," the official told the outlet.

The potential meeting is reportedly at a preliminary point, as neither a date nor a location have yet to be determined. If the sit down happens, it would be the third time the leaders had met...

Real collusion anticipated.

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500 page report!
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What goes around comes around.
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WaPo running damage control for the establishment. The article starts out like it's legit, but soon pivots to match the headline


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In the coming weeks, Horowitz is expected to release a nearly 500-page report criticizing the Justice Department and FBI for their handling of the Clinton email investigation, people familiar with the matter said. They, like others in this report, spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak frankly about matters they are not authorized to discuss publicly. Meanwhile, he has intensified his review of the Russia investigation, interviewing the FBI agent who once led the case and inviting him back for a second conversation, one of these people said.

Those who know Horowitz say his findings will be as nonpartisan as they are thorough. But his work is almost certain to be weaponized by President Trump against federal law enforcement, and some question whether it will quell the tension gripping Washington.

"He's going to be unflappable, he's going to be apolitical, he's going to call it like he sees it," said Mary Jo White, a former U.S. attorney in the Southern District of New York who supervised Horowitz when he worked there. His investigation is going to severely damage the FBI/DOJ alum and former alum, those familiar with the report say it will takes decades to repair.

She added: "I think the public should have a very high degree of confidence in whatever he finds. Now, that's a different question than, 'How will it be received?' " Peter Strzok has spent nearly the entire week in front of OIG investigators, including three rounds with team assembled by John Huber. Strzok is expect to be back in front of Huber again tomorrow. Insiders are sensing shock waves building.
Then it gives a very good background on Horowitz and his knockdown drag out work in the SDNY and cleaning out massive corruption in the 30th Precinct of the NYPD. Then comes the pivot.


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As Trump and his conservative allies have alleged cascading abuses at the Justice Department, the department's leaders have seemed to use Horowitz as a pressure release valve.

When conservative lawmakers clamored late last year for the appointment of a special counsel to investigate a host of their concerns, many of them related to Clinton, Attorney General Jeff Sessions pointed to Horowitz's ongoing review of the Clinton email case. When the GOP raised concerns about a warrant to surveil former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, Sessions said he had asked Horowitz to review the matter, and Horowitz later confirmed publicly that he would do so.

Most recently, after Trump demanded the Justice Department investigate possible political spying on his campaign, the department again turned to Horowitz, asking him to expand his review of the Page investigation to encompass the president's request. Trump's demand stemmed from the FBI's use of a confidential source in the Russia investigation. The source interacted with three Trump advisers during the campaign, although it remains unclear to what extent the bureau directed those interactions.

To leaders in the Justice Department, the concession was a modest one: Horowitz's work on the surveillance of Page might have led him to the confidential informant, who had interacted with Page. But some analysts worried it would set a dangerous precedent, as there seemed to be little reason for Horowitz to consider the use of the informant a common FBI practice in criminal investigations.

"It tells the entire world that the president can request DOJ investigations and get them, even when there's no apparent cause for them," said Matt Miller, a former Justice Department spokesman who worked under Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

Trump has, in the past, questioned the inspector general's effectiveness. After Sessions asked Horowitz to investigate the surveillance of Page, the president tweeted, "Why is A.G. Jeff Sessions asking the Inspector General to investigate potentially massive FISA abuse. Will take forever, has no prosecutorial power and already late with reports on Comey etc. Isn't the I.G. an Obama guy? Why not use Justice Department lawyers? DISGRACEFUL!"

He was referring to James B. Comey, whom Trump fired as FBI director last year. FISA is short for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which sets the conditions under which law enforcement can monitor suspected foreign agents. It's being reported there are 25 agents being subpoenaed voluntarily to cooperate with the I.G. investigators, which will include Huber and company. This is not being taken lightly, and Trump is gunning for bear.

With recent revelations, the president has seemed to see the efficacy in using Horowitz's findings to advance his line of attacks. After an inspector general report faulted former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe for misleading investigators about his role in a media disclosure, Trump tweeted, "DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!"

Even before the report, Trump had been a frequent critic of McCabe. The former No. 2 FBI official has claimed the president's attacks are meant to undermine the FBI and special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, who is leading the Russia investigation. The D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office is exploring whether McCabe should be charged with a crime.

Trump also has repeatedly mused to associates and aides in the Oval Office about Comey being investigated and charged, particularly amid the heat of his book tour, according to administration officials and advisers.

One of Trump's lawyers, Rudolph W. Giuliani, said this week that the forthcoming Clinton email report could be a boon for the president justifying his firing of Comey, and undercutting that as a piece of Mueller's probe into whether the president obstructed justice. Giuliani said Horowitz is "not a guy who is known to play politics," and his report "could lay out an overwhelming case."

"How could there be obstruction of justice when he behaved this way? He needed to be fired," Giuliani said, referring to Comey. "Any time he puts it out, it is going to be a big deal."

In recent weeks, Horowitz has invited key players in the Clinton email investigation to review a draft of his report, making them sign nondisclosure agreements before doing so, people familiar with the matter say. The report is exhaustive, they say, and while its conclusions might be debated, the work's intensity will be hard to critique. The Senate Judiciary Committee has scheduled a hearing on the report for Tuesday, although that date is likely to be moved, as people familiar with the matter say the document likely won't be public before the middle of the month.

Horowitz's investigators also interviewed FBI Agent Peter Strzok in detail about an application for a secret court order to monitor Page after he left the Trump campaign, and Strzok is expected to return soon for more questions, a person familiar with the matter said. Strzok, who once led the probe, has become infamous for anti-Trump texts he exchanged with an FBI lawyer.

Raymond Banoun, who hired Horowitz to join the Cadwalader firm and who now has his own practice, said Horowitz knew when he took the job he would have to investigate high-stakes cases that involve people he knew and even pressure from the president wouldn't change his mind-set.

"It doesn't make the job any easier," Banoun said, "but it's not going to impact how he makes a decision, or how he reaches a decision."

Instead of focusing on the weeding out of the garbage in the FBI/DOJ, they focus on how the POTUS is going to weaponize this against the DNC/Left.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/as-justice-dept-inspector-general-moves-from-clinton-email-to-russia-and-trump-he-risks-becoming-a-political-weapon/2018/06/01/a9dbb112-636e-11e8-a69c-b944de66d9e7_story.html?utm_term=.7ee3b79ec9e5


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We all know the liberal media are not going to accept the forthcoming bad news. Their going to fight to discredit the report and turn it into a political football. We better hope the legal system holds up under the assault.
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This file dump 22 of the FBI HRC email investigation is going to be like white hot lava to the Benghazi committee members because they know they've been lied to over and over and Holder and company covered it up. Hillary Rice Mills have a lot of explaining to do. Even with the heavy redactions it's pretty plain they were warned in advance, by multiple departments, two different independent intel contractors, and he own State Department investigators, that something was brewing and they should be on alert.

It's hard to fill in the huge redactions but it appears that the Ambassador delegation was there for something other than diplomacy, it's hard to say, but the implication is there. It looks like they were there on some sort of damage control mission involving weapons.
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Another player in the analytical nerds combing threw these doc dumps



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1002715565201424389.html
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Found a Warrior who is unhappy with todays document dumps



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To leaders in the Justice Department, the concession was a modest one: Horowitz's work on the surveillance of Page might have led him to the confidential informant, who had interacted with Page. But some analysts worried it would set a dangerous precedent, as there seemed to be little reason for Horowitz to consider the use of the informant a common FBI practice in criminal investigations.

Note: It's not a criminal investigation...it's a counterintelligence investigation conducted against the opposition party. They know that; they're just messing with the truth to confuse the public.

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He was referring to James B. Comey, whom Trump fired as FBI director last year. FISA is short for the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which sets the conditions under which law enforcement can monitor suspected foreign agents. It's being reported there are 25 agents being subpoenaed voluntarily to cooperate with the I.G. investigators, which will include Huber and company. This is not being taken lightly, and Trump is gunning for bear.


The last sentence construction is weird...but hilarious. Trump's reputation for revenge permeates the air.

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With recent revelations, the president has seemed to see the efficacy in using Horowitz's findings to advance his line of attacks. After an inspector general report faulted former FBI deputy director Andrew McCabe for misleading investigators about his role in a media disclosure, Trump tweeted, "DOJ just issued the McCabe report - which is a total disaster. He LIED! LIED! LIED! McCabe was totally controlled by Comey - McCabe is Comey!! No collusion, all made up by this den of thieves and lowlifes!"

Trump's tweets are perceived as attacks. lol.
His tweets really get under the MSM's skin. They have no effective rebuttal because he reaches an audience of >50 million loyal followers, a number which continues to grow daily, while the MSM audience continues to shrink. Remember the TV commercial: "When E.F. Hutton talks, people listen." Trump's taken that to a new level: "When Donald Trump tweets, people are red pilled." His tweets have given him a bigger platform that the MSM has, and it drives the MSM crazy.

They're scared, really, really scared.
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It's pretty funny actually. They top rated shows in prime time avg 14-16 million viewers at peak, he blows that away for free in minutes. We joke about his 3D 4D 45D chess games, but he really is running one of the greats troll games of all time. He's like the guy with the laser pointer and the MSM are the cats chasing the red dot all day long 24/7 365. He gets up to take the morning dump and has them unhinged before he's done. It's hilarious to watch.
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This is interesting



https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1000431044162703361.html


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It's convenient (for them) that Clapper, Brennan, Morell are hired at national news organizatns where they can give their spin & monitor media on matters that directly implicate them in *possible* improprieties. 1/? (cont.)

There was a time when this placement wd have been considered an ethics problem. 2/? (cont.)

A fmr. top intel official I asked about this said, "It also gives them an opportunity to correct the record and possibly influence others in the industry including editors and management..." 3/? (cont.)

"...If former CIA Dir. was in the news room I suspect a coworker or editor would use them as a resource and/or run things by them. They also become well placed spies to report on what legitimate journalists are up to. Sound familiar?"--fmr. top intel official. 4/4 #HeOughtToKnow
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Hillary being questioned about Ambassador Stephens diary, which she had in her possession but she claims she did not read it:

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1000431044162703361.html

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Quote:
It's convenient (for them) that Clapper, Brennan, Morell are hired at national news organizatns where they can give their spin & monitor media on matters that directly implicate them in *possible* improprieties. 1/? (cont.)

There was a time when this placement wd have been considered an ethics problem. 2/? (cont.)

A fmr. top intel official I asked about this said, "It also gives them an opportunity to correct the record and possibly influence others in the industry including editors and management..." 3/? (cont.)

"...If former CIA Dir. was in the news room I suspect a coworker or editor would use them as a resource and/or run things by them. They also become well placed spies to report on what legitimate journalists are up to. Sound familiar?"--fmr. top intel official. 4/4 #HeOughtToKnow
Hopefully when they come for them with the perp walk they will get no heads-up. My hope is they will come for them in a coordinated round-up on the same day, at the same hour. Since it will be at the national Main Stream Media outlets where the round-ups take place, there should be video of these take-down perp walks.

I'm beginning to hear in my head, "Bad Boys Bad Boys what'cha gonna do? What'cha gonna do when they come for you .."
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RoscoePColtrane said:

It's pretty funny actually. They top rated shows in prime time avg 14-16 million viewers at peak, he blows that away for free in minutes. We joke about his 3D 4D 45D chess games, but he really is running one of the greats troll games of all time. He's like the guy with the laser pointer and the MSM are the cats chasing the red dot all day long 24/7 365. He gets up to take the morning dump and has them unhinged before he's done. It's hilarious to watch.
Projectile spewed my morning coffee.
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Prognightmare said:


We've known that haven't we?
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VaultingChemist said:

Hillary being questioned about Ambassador Stephens diary, which she had in her possession but she claims she did not read it:


That tweet is part of a thread by @drawandstrike. Here is the threadreader:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1002782279897354240.html
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Rice should be questioned under oath now and the statute of limitations should be suspended.
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Quote:

The NSC's Director of Access Management John Powers said in the letter:
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Documents from the Obama administration have been transferred to the Barack Obama Presidential Library. You may send your request to the Obama Library. However, you should be aware that under the Presidential Records Act, Presidential records remain closed to the public for five years after an administration has left office.

But still subject to subpoena. If Nixon had to turn over White House tapes while in office, Obama will have to turn over those logs since he is out of office. The "top secret" classification isn't a bar either, under the Classified Information Procedures Act.

Just because Judicial Watch can't get them at present doesn't mean no one can. As Horowitz continues to investigate FISA Gate, those logs will be material evidence.

Still, color me surprised that the NSC no longer has any access to that material. Maybe NSA does?
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Kinda brings the whole Chicago land grab into perspective doesn't it...
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I often have a sick feeling in my stomach that items such as this were all done via paper only and not electronic, conveniently followed by a quick trip to the incinerator.

I think if a physical copy of a document incriminating these *******s were requested from the library, if found, it would be burned before the person could return to say no such document exists.

Hopefully I'm completely ignorant to how it works and it would be impossible to completely hide the evidence.
Staff - take out the trash.
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MSNBC continues to staff the anti Trump personnel. you have to think that the programming director has to be asking himself before a move like this, "How can we as a network put an end to a perfect week that has seen our entire credibility shredded?"

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I'm convinced the Papadopoulos is a plant, he has meeting with Mifsud and Halper connections before he was ever with the Trump campaign, when he was still attached to the Carson crew. I think before it's over we will find out that every one of those RNC candidates had one or more "informants" attached to their campaigns. It's just too easy not to believe that


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Prognightmare said:




so we have a smoking gun and it is locked up in the Obama library...
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Adam Ag 98 said:

I often have a sick feeling in my stomach that items such as this were all done via paper only and not electronic, conveniently followed by a quick trip to the incinerator.

I think if a physical copy of a document incriminating these *******s were requested from the library, if found, it would be burned before the person could return to say no such document exists.

Hopefully I'm completely ignorant to how it works and it would be impossible to completely hide the evidence.
My understanding is that the Obama Library will have very few paper documents, it will almost exclusively be electronic. In fact, at the Library you are supposed to be able access the electronic files that will be stored elsewhere. Truly funky set-up.

But you have to remember that the Obama's refused to allow the federal agency in charge of Presidential Libraries and archives to even touch his allows for a lot of shenanigans like that. No transparency on donor lists, etc.
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Maybe the definition of spying will include accessing NSA collection of all communication data from the Trump transition team.
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aggiehawg said:

Adam Ag 98 said:

I often have a sick feeling in my stomach that items such as this were all done via paper only and not electronic, conveniently followed by a quick trip to the incinerator.

I think if a physical copy of a document incriminating these *******s were requested from the library, if found, it would be burned before the person could return to say no such document exists.

Hopefully I'm completely ignorant to how it works and it would be impossible to completely hide the evidence.
My understanding is that the Obama Library will have very few paper documents, it will almost exclusively be electronic. In fact, at the Library you are supposed to be able access the electronic files that will be stored elsewhere. Truly funky set-up.

But you have to remember that the Obama's refused to allow the federal agency in charge of Presidential Libraries and archives to even touch his allows for a lot of shenanigans like that. No transparency on donor lists, etc.
People need to rest easy on these masking archives claims, because I can pretty much say with deep certainty that Mike Rogers/NSA has the original archives of the unmaskings. People need to remember what triggered the original audit that exposed all this mess. It was the unconventional and excessive data mining by Powers, Rice, and two contractors. It was the excessive unmaskings that flagged the monitor, that informed Mike Rogers and he initiated the internal audit that discovered not only the contractors, but the five eyes members that were involved as well. As soon as Mike Rogers had solid proof what was going on he shut it down, and they all had to go to plan B, "FISA".

You can bet your life that Rogers preserved every bit of that, and it's certain that the evidense that was presented by Mike Rogers to the FISC in which they produced that 99 page report that addressed these abuses directly, have a copy of it. In turn, when Rogers briefed Nunes that morning that triggered the HPSCI investigation, Nunes has seen at least a summary of the unmaskings if not the actual logs.

So this story is more bait to draw readers than anything.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

I'm convinced the Papadopoulos is a plant, he has meeting with Mifsud and Halper connections before he was ever with the Trump campaign, when he was still attached to the Carson crew. I think before it's over we will find out that every one of those RNC candidates had one or more "informants" attached to their campaigns. It's just too easy not to believe that



With Andrew McCarthy now on board with the inconsistencies surrounding Papadopoulos, it's going to come to the attention of the investigating committees in Congress. Papadopoulos has never testified before a Congressional committee. Perhaps the continuing delay by Mueller in sentencing Papadopoulos is intentional, designed to keep him from making any public statements or being interviewed by a Congressional committee. One reason may well be as you state, Papadopoulos was a plant and Mueller doesn't want anyone to know this. But what kind of a plant? A DNC/HRC plant...or a FBI plant???? Could Papadopoulos have been 'wired'? The only problem with the latter was Halper's interactions with Papadopoulos in September 2016 where he inquired about HRC's emails...unless Halper/CIA did not know about Papadopoulos/FBI.
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drcrinum said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

I'm convinced the Papadopoulos is a plant, he has meeting with Mifsud and Halper connections before he was ever with the Trump campaign, when he was still attached to the Carson crew. I think before it's over we will find out that every one of those RNC candidates had one or more "informants" attached to their campaigns. It's just too easy not to believe that



With Andrew McCarthy now on board with the inconsistencies surrounding Papadopoulos, it's going to come to the attention of the investigating committees in Congress. Papadopoulos has never testified before a Congressional committee. Perhaps the continuing delay by Mueller in sentencing Papadopoulos is intentional, designed to keep him from making any public statements or being interviewed by a Congressional committee. One reason may well be as you state, Papadopoulos was a plant and Mueller doesn't want anyone to know this. But what kind of a plant? A DNC/HRC plant...or a FBI plant???? Could Papadopoulos have been 'wired'? The only problem with the latter was Halper's interactions with Papadopoulos in September 2016 where he inquired about HRC's emails...unless Halper/CIA did not know about Papadopoulos/FBI.
Remember though the recent statement by Andrew Downer who has come forward that "No one ever mentioned anything about emails, he said he thought the Russians "may have" dirt on HRC, but nothing with any certainty"

Then there is the Maltese Prof Joseph Misfud MSM has been pushing for months he has "Ties to Russia" but Misfud has ties to US/UK Intel, just like Halper and he allegedly started "Hillary Dirt" entrapment of Papadopoulos. He hasn't been seen since 10/31/17, is he the origin of SPYGATE? WTF Misfud?
The backstory on Papadopoulos is coming unraveled.
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I've thought from the beginning that either Papadapoulous or Page was a plant, and I don't think Page is composed and disciplined enough to pull it off successfully.
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Page...can you imagine being the CIA agent that was charged with debriefing his trips to Russia? Page for all his apparent smarts seems incapable of giving a straight answer to anything.
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