Levin asks a good question. If all of this was about papadopolous, why didn't they just interview him?

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Levin asks a good question. If all of this was about papadopolous, why didn't they just interview him?

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Nothing about the investigation into campaign makes much sense to me, so can't even attempt to answer that.

GreyhoundDad said:

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The spooks have to have pictures of Gowdy and a South Carolina stump broke mare.

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Giddy up/back up giddy up back up Giddy up back up giddy up back up giddy up back giddy up back up

When the Deep State starts praising Gowdy, one needs to pause and consider:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trey-gowdy-trump-fbi-comments-voice-of-reason/

Gowdy is in love with justice, law and lost his grasp on reality coping with loving a houere

drcrinum said:

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When the Deep State starts praising Gowdy, one needs to pause and consider:
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/trey-gowdy-trump-fbi-comments-voice-of-reason/

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You can tell just by which lib trolls here are now pimping Gowdy (the smiley face troll mostly) to know that Gowdy has gone full deep state, either because he is compromised, or is working to get himself a nice gig come next year.

When you cant address the topic, just call everyone a liberal troll.

We get it, anyone that does not buy in to every idea thrown out on this thread is a deep state lackey that's been compromised.

Gowdy has been a very strong conservative his entire time in Congress. He is certainly earned the benefit of the doubt to take him at his word. And there is no question he knows infinitely more about the facts than any of us.

Could turn out that they are showing Giwdy false information? Of course it could.

GCP12 said:

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Listen to the clip on soundcloud in the link. Levin brings up a lot of very good points on Gowdys comments

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This is priceless...Levin on fire.

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/05/more-evidence-of-muellers-overreach.php

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Six months ago if you would have told People that there was an informant helping the fbi inside the Trump campaign you would have been called a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut. Now we have people on this board justifying it. Can't wait what's next for them to defend.

They have defended Comey, McCabe, the dossier, and now an informant.

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The narrative changes like weekly at this point. Glad we have this thread to document it.

and they will be gone soon
Jason Chaffetz
big changes over the last 18 months. Those changes have been good. But as I celebrated my 50th birthday in March, the reality of spending more than 1,500 nights away from my family over eight years hit me harder...
Trey Gowdy
Whatever skills I may have are better utilized in a courtroom than in Congress...
Paul Ryan
wanted to spend more time with his wife and three children...

Levin absolutely tore into Gowdy today.

He just shredded the FBI.

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Here are some I consider very interesting and they are quite old. Sorry for the formatting this was the only way I could copy paste.


968
A Review of the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Use of National Security Letters: Assessment of Progress in Implementing Recommendations
FBI
08/14/2014
3
Unresolved
Notify the President's Intelligence Oversight Board concerning the unauthorized collections found in this review containing [redacted- classified] from two providers and seek guidance on whether the FBI should undertake the effort necessary to identify and remove similar unauthorized collections that likely remain in many FBI case files.


997
A Review of ATF's Operation Fast and Furious and Related Matters
ATF
09/19/2012
2
On Hold/Pending with OIG
The Department should examine ATF's case review procedures to verify that they are consistent with procedures adopted in other Department law enforcement components to ensure that matters involving "sensitive circumstances," "special requirements," and "otherwise illegal activity" are sufficiently evaluated.

1020
A Review of the FBI's Investigations of Certain Domestic Advocacy Groups
FBI
09/20/2010
2
On Hold/Pending with OIG
Establish Procedures to Track Source of Facts Provided to the Public and Congress.



1040
Report on the President's Surveillance Program
NSD
07/10/2009
3
On Hold/Pending with OIG
The OIG recommends that, as part of the [Redacted] project, the Justice Department's National Security Division (NSD), working with the FBI, should collect information about the quantity of telephone numbers and e-mail addresses disseminated to FBI field offices that are assigned as Action leads and that require offices to conduct threat assessments.

1041
Report on the President's Surveillance Program
NSD
07/10/2009
4
On Hold/Pending with OIG
The OIG recommends that, consistent with NSD's current oversight activities and as part of its periodic reviews of national security investigations at FBI Headquarters and field offices, NSD should review a representative sampling [Redacted] leads to those offices.
The OIG recommends that the Department, in coordination with the NSA, implement a procedure to identify Stellar Wind-derived information that may be associated with international terrorism cases currently pending or likely to be brought in the future and evaluate whether such information should be disclosed in light of the government's discovery obligations under Rule 16 and Brady.

1045
An Investigation of Allegations of Politicized Hiring by Monica Goodling and Other Staff in the Office of the Attorney General
OAG
07/28/2008
1
On Hold/Pending with OIG
The OIG recommends that the Department clarify its policies regarding the use of political or ideological affiliations to select career attorney candidates for temporary details within the Department.

1047
A Review of the FBI's Use of National Security Letters: Assessment of Corrective Actions and Examination of NSL Usage in 2006
FBI
03/17/2008
3
Unresolved
Implement measures to verify that data requested in NSLs is checked against serialized source documents to verify that the data extracted from the source document and used in the NSL (such as the telephone number or e-mail address) is accurately recorded on the NSL and the approval EC.
The FBI should continue its FBI Headquarters-managed asset validation review process and provide sufficient resources for the Analytical Unit to devote to these reviews.

This may have legs. Compare the info in the following two articles:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/04/27/donors-50-million-steele-fusion-gps/

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...That's according to statements from Daniel Jones, a former Feinstein staffer who runs the Penn Quarter Group (PQG), a Washington, D.C., consulting firm.

The House report states that in March 2017, Jones told the FBI about a project he is working on with Steele and Fusion GPS that is being funded to the tune of $50 million by 7 to 10 wealthy donors from New York and California.


"In late March 2017, Jones met with FBI regarding PQG, which he described as 'exposing foreign influence in Western election,'" reads the committee's report.

"[Redacted] told FBI that PQG was being funded by 7 to 10 wealthy donors located primarily in New York and California, who provided approximately $50 million."

"[Redacted] further stated that PQG had secured the services of Steele, his associate [redacted], and Fusion GPS to continue exposing Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. Presidential election," reads the report, which adds that Jones "planned to share the information he obtained with policymakersand with the press."...

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https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/christopher-steele-the-man-behind-the-trump-dossier

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...Even before Steele became involved in the U.S. Presidential campaign, he was convinced that the Kremlin was interfering in Western elections. In April of 2016, not long before he took on the Fusion assignment, he finished a secret investigation, which he called Project Charlemagne, for a private client. It involved a survey of Russian interference in the politics of four members of the European UnionFrance, Italy, the United Kingdom, and Germanyalong with Turkey, a candidate for membership. The report chronicles persistent, aggressive political interference by the Kremlin: social-media warfare aimed at inflaming fear and prejudice, and "opaque financial support" given to favored politicians in the form of bank loans, gifts, and other kinds of support. The report discusses the Kremlin's entanglement with the former Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi and the French right-wing leader Marine Le Pen. (Le Pen and Berlusconi deny having had such ties.) It also suggests that Russian aid was likely given to lesser-known right-wing nationalists in the United Kingdom and elsewhere. The Kremlin's long-term aim, the report concludes, was to boost extremist groups and politicians at the expense of Europe's liberal democracies. The more immediate goal was to "destroy" the E.U., in order to end the punishing economic sanctions that the E.U. and the U.S. had imposed on Russia after its 2014 political and military interference in Ukraine.

Although the report's language was dry, and many of the details familiar to anyone who had been watching Russia closely, Project Charlemagne was the equivalent of a flashing red light. It warned that Russian intelligence services were becoming more strategic and increasingly disruptive. Russian interference in foreign elections, it cautioned, was only "likely to grow in size and reach over time."...

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Remember Dan Jones, the former Feinstein aide, who showed up in the Senator Warner tweets with Waldman, Deripaska's lobbyist? He likely played a role in Feinstein leaking Glenn Simpson's testimony where he exposed that a spy was placed into the Trump Campaign. Then it turned out that Jones headed the Penn Quarter Group, funded by wealthy liberals, which continued funding of Steele regarding the dossier after the Election. Well, the question now is: Did Jones fund Steele's Project Charlemagne, an investigation into Russian interference in European elections, a project which concluded shortly before Steele undertook the dossier? Was Jones funding the dossier at the same time as Fusion GPS -- was that question asked of Jones during his FBI interview? Regardless, Steele would have been highly biased that the Russians were interfering in the US election before he undertook the dossier, based upon his work with Project Charlemagne.

The next question would be: Was British intel aware of Project Charlemagne and did it influence their behavior in the events leading up to the US Presidential Election?

They raided Cohen because Cohen is the one SDNY is investigating!! I said long ago that the likely result in all this is that Trump did not collude with Russia but had some shady people around him looking for a quick buck. And I bet Cohen turns out to be in that group. (And I have no doubt Mueller will try to use jail threat to get Cohen to squel on Trump and it won't be successful)

You can disagree with Gowdy on what he says, but have to acknowledge he knows more than us & lots he can't disclose. I think his track record warrants giving him benefit of the doubt for now.

Levin is a smart guy and does raise many good points. But it's not a back and forth discussion, so no way to know what Gowdy would respond with. I'd love to hear all those answers too.

The point is saying Gowdy is "compromised" or not a true republican is baseless & stupid.

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backintexas2013 said:

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Six months ago if you would have told People that there was an informant helping the fbi inside the Trump campaign you would have been called a tinfoil hat conspiracy nut. Now we have people on this board justifying it. Can't wait what's next for them to defend.

They have defended Comey, McCabe, the dossier, and now an informant.

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The narrative changes like weekly at this point. Glad we have this thread to document it.

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I'm not a computer geek, but does an archive need to be updated daily? Would staff be doing that anyway?

Let's go BMX, put your big boy pants on and start showing your intellectual heavy weights who side with Gowdy.

We got Levin and McCarthy on our side!

Trump is patient and that is power. White waiting to move is not 3d chess, he is still waiting for the black 'wrong' move to be revealed...and reveal weakness.

Not happened yet, black must still be positioned strong. Not so sure the OIG report will reveal the end game.

I agree. For whatever reason, Gowdy is playing semantics with the spy word, the DOJ is running a great program, yada yada.

I may be wrong on my views, but his arguments didn't do anything for me other than sound like interference.

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You know slick willie must've been jealous at the thought of KK in the Oval office.

Sorry if this had been covered, this thread got lost in my loose, but...

does Shep on Fox news hate Trump? He had some deal today or yesterday slamming Trump about calling the investigation "spygate." Said fox can confirm it was not spying, using an informant is normal business.

None of what has been going on sounds normal

He's the token homosexual liberal that's not supposed to have a bias in his programming but sometimes it comes out.

Shep I believe is a Old School Dem, doesn't affiliate with the modern Leftist kooks but doesn't really like GOP either...