Interesting that he considers the Russian investigation and the FISC abuses potentially separate reports. I wonder if there is evidence that someone in the FBI did notice something dealing with Russia and it was pushed away and forgotten?

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Interesting that he considers the Russian investigation and the FISC abuses potentially separate reports. I wonder if there is evidence that someone in the FBI did notice something dealing with Russia and it was pushed away and forgotten?

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Size and scope is very relevant, the sheer mass of corruption that we are seeing it has to be broken up. When they step off into the FISC/FISA issues, the security/classification levels are through the roof and his actual staff to undertake that may be very limited. Not many have that level of clearance. Look how hard the Gang of Eight members are being treated and they have top shelf clearances.

543 in the last year alone.

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543 in the last year alone.

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Holy crap! Sessions should be fired on that basis alone!

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Pinche Abogado said:

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543 in the last year alone.

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Holy crap! Sessions should be fired on that basis alone!

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Either the flood is coming, or Sessions has some explaining to do.

But what's normal? I assume the less than six months is always the highest. What was this time last year.

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aggiehawg said:

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543 in the last year alone.

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Holy crap! Sessions should be fired on that basis alone!

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Either the flood is coming, or Sessions has some explaining to do.

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did you bother to read the linked report at all?

its a shocking headline on twitter, but looks like almost all administrative mumbo jumbo.

Here are the first 7 "unresolved" issues:

Provide Department Special Agents assigned to Indian country with training specific to Indian country

Analyze available data to help to identify resource, program, or potential training and law enforcement needs.

Reconsider whether to allow the tribal Special Assistant United States Attorney program to expire given its benefits to tribal communication and case prosecution coordination

Coordinate with the Department of the Interior, particularly the Bureau of Indian Affairs, and tribal authorities to ensure the delivery of training as the Tribal Law and Order Act requires.

The OJP Office of the General Counsel (OGC) should consider issuing guidance clarifying its interpretation of the Valid Court Order (VCO) exception to the Deinstitutionalization of Status Offenders (DSO) Core Requirement of the Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention Act (JJDP Act). In particular, we recommend that OGC consider addressing competing interpretations of the plain meaning of the statute, clarifying its interpretations of the terms "offense" and "charge" and how the meanings of those terms might impact OJJDP's position on pending legislation, and addressing the significance of particular facts, state laws, and due process protections for juveniles.

OGC should consider issuing guidance clarifying the circumstances under which juveniles may be confined in unoccupied adult jails consistent with the Jail Removal core requirement.

OJP should develop a plan to improve communications within and among OJP components.

Is Indian still the preferred term?

I did, did you? That's a significant number of referrals which remain unresolved--even if unrelated to anything Mueller or "deep state."

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I did, did you? That's a significant number of referrals which remain unresolved--even if unrelated to anything Mueller or "deep state."

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Sessions definitely needs to go if he can't explain why agents aren't getting their injun trainin


And is 13 unresolved since 2006 really a "significant" number?

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But what's normal? I assume the less than six months is always the highest. What was this time last year.

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The question is what was the number when Obama left office. Subtract 18 months and then count to get a rough estimate. Without seeing a companion chart of how many were resolved hard to precise.

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But what's normal? I assume the less than six months is always the highest. What was this time last year.

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The question is what was the number when Obama left office. Subtract 18 months and then count to get a rough estimate. Without seeing a companion chart of how many were resolved hard to precise.

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My bad 852

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2017/r170503.pdf

This was the year prior

709

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/r160119.pdf

Are sealed indictments still abnormally high?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/rudy-giuliani-is-holding-qa-sessions-with-trump-to-prepare-for-interview-with-special-counsel.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1001866516067946498.html

You bet me by 3 minutes!

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You bet me by 3 minutes!

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Tracy Diaz has a followup to it she claims will be a show stopper

That's a good read.

You have to wonder if these "crowd sourced" investigation results make their way to the actual government investigators? Do they make the connections and put together the timelines that all these tens of thousands of private persons sifting through the data manage.

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You have to wonder if these "crowd sourced" investigation results make their way to the actual government investigators? Do they make the connections and put together the timelines that all these tens of thousands of private persons sifting through the data manage.

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If they are competent investigators, they have assembled their own timelines and connection graphs.

However, reading Team Mueller's pleadings and oral arguments, they may not be all that competent.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/stormy-daniels-lawyer-drops-motion-to-join-michael-cohen-case.html

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Michael Avenatti on Wednesday withdrew his motion to represent his client Stormy Daniels in the ongoing court proceedings involving President Donald Trump's personal lawyer, Michael Cohen.

The withdrawal came hours after U.S. District Judge Kimba Wood said Avenatti would have to end his "publicity tour" if he was admitted as a lawyer for the porn star Daniels in Cohen's case.

Avenatti has become a constant media presence and pugnacious critic of Trump and Cohen since his client sued them both to be released from a nondisclosure agreement she signed before the 2016 election. Daniels was paid $130,000 as part of the deal in exchange for her silence about an alleged affair with Trump from years earlier.

In a statement, Avenatti said "It is now not necessary because the motion to intervene is being held in abeyance by agreement with the government. We are on the verge of getting the documents we need."

Avenatti was referring to a separate motion by Daniels to intervene in Cohen's case for the purpose of potentially asserting claims of attorney-client privilege on documents seized from Cohen by the FBI last month that relate to her.

Cohen is under criminal investigation by federal prosecutors in New York City. He has not been charged, but evidence seized from him last month is in the process of being reviewed and turned over to prosecutors.

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WTH does that mean? The SDNY has agreed to leak documents to Avenatti? Not relating to his client or solely related to his client and not Trump's communications with Cohen about bimbo eruptions? Which documents does he think "we need"??

That's why I posted it for you and this board so you could break it down for me.

NYT throwing out more chum to see what they can stir up

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/30/us/politics/rosenstein-trump-comey-firing-mccabe-memo.html

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The former acting F.B.I. director, Andrew G. McCabe, wrote a confidential memo last spring recounting a conversation that offered significant behind-the-scenes details on the firing of Mr. McCabe's predecessor, James B. Comey, according to several people familiar with the discussion.

Mr. Comey's firing is a central focus of the special counsel's investigation into whether President Trump tried to obstruct the investigation into his campaign's ties to Russia. Mr. McCabe has turned over his memo to the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III.

In the document, whose contents have not been previously reported, Mr. McCabe described a conversation at the Justice Department with the deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, in the chaotic days last May after Mr. Comey's abrupt firing. Mr. Rosenstein played a key role in the dismissal, writing a memo that rebuked Mr. Comey over his handling of an investigation into Hillary Clinton.

But in the meeting at the Justice Department, Mr. Rosenstein added a new detail: He said the president had originally asked him to reference Russia in his memo, the people familiar with the conversation said. Mr. Rosenstein did not elaborate on what Mr. Trump had wanted him to say.

To Mr. McCabe, that seemed like possible evidence that Mr. Comey's firing was actually related to the F.B.I.'s investigation into the Trump campaign's ties to Russia, and that Mr. Rosenstein helped provide a cover story by writing about the Clinton investigation.

One person who was briefed on Mr. Rosenstein's conversation with the president said Mr. Trump had simply wanted Mr. Rosenstein to mention that he was not personally under investigation in the Russia inquiry. Mr. Rosenstein said it was unnecessary and did not include such a reference. Mr. Trump ultimately said it himself when announcing the firing.

Mr. McCabe's memo, one of several that he wrote, highlights the conflicting roles that Mr. Rosenstein plays in the case. He supervises the special counsel investigation and has told colleagues that protecting it is among his highest priorities. But many current and former law enforcement officials are suspicious of some of his other actions, including allowing some of Mr. Trump's congressional allies to view crucial documents from the investigation.

In conversations with prosecutors, Mr. Trump's lawyers have cited Mr. Rosenstein's involvement in the firing of Mr. Comey as proof that it was not an effort to obstruct justice, according to people familiar with the president's legal strategy.

That argument has only made Mr. Rosenstein's position even more peculiar: He oversees an investigation into the president, who points to Mr. Rosenstein's own actions as evidence that he is innocent. And Mr. Rosenstein could have the final say on whether that argument has merit.

The people who discussed the meeting and the memo did so on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to publicly discuss the matters. A spokeswoman for Mr. McCabe declined to comment. Mr. McCabe was fired in March after a finding that he was not candid in an internal investigation. Mr. McCabe has said the firing was a politically motivated effort to discredit him as a witness in the special counsel investigation.

A Justice Department spokeswoman also declined to comment. Mr. Rosenstein has consulted departmental ethics advisers about whether to recuse himself from the Russia investigation and has not done so.

"I've talked with Director Mueller about this," Mr. Rosenstein told The Associated Press last year. "He's going to make the appropriate decisions, and if anything that I did winds up being relevant to his investigation then, as Director Mueller and I discussed, if there's a need from me to recuse, I will."

Removing Mr. Rosenstein from the investigation, though, would only add uncertainty to the process. He is regarded, even among his critics, as a bulwark against an effort by Mr. Trump to fire Mr. Mueller and shut down the investigation. Mr. Trump has openly mused about doing so, and has considered firing Mr. Rosenstein, too.


Mr. McCabe's memo reflects the F.B.I.'s early efforts to discern Mr. Trump's intentions in firing Mr. Comey, an effort that continues today. Mr. Trump and his advisers have issued conflicting and changing explanations for the termination.

At first, they pointed to Mr. Rosenstein's reasoning, which criticized Mr. Comey's handling of the Clinton investigation. He was unusually public about the inquiry in ways that Democrats say contributed to Mrs. Clinton's defeat.

But Mr. Trump quickly undercut that statement, telling NBC News that he had planned to fire Mr. Comey even before receiving Mr. Rosenstein's memo. "And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, 'You know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story,'" Mr. Trump said. "It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won."

Mr. Trump also told Russian diplomats in the Oval Office that firing Mr. Comey had relieved "great pressure" that he had faced because of Russia.

Mr. Rosenstein's comments to Mr. McCabe were made against a backdrop of those shifting explanations. After their meeting, Mr. Rosenstein gave Mr. McCabe a copy of a draft firing letter that Mr. Trump had written, according to two people familiar with the conversation. Mr. McCabe later gave that letter, and his memos, to Mr. Mueller.

Mr. McCabe's memo reflects the anxiety of the early months of the Trump administration and presaged a relationship with law enforcement that has only grown more strained. Just as Mr. Comey kept memos on interactions with Mr. Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions, Mr. McCabe documented his own conversations with the president and others.

Mr. Trump has injected himself into Justice Department operations in ways that have little precedent. While most presidents who have faced federal investigations have assiduously avoided discussing them for fear of being seen as trying to influence them, Mr. Trump has shown no hesitation. He has called the investigation a "witch hunt," declared that a "deep state" was trying to undermine his presidency, and encouraged the Justice Department to provide sensitive details about the special counsel inquiry to Congress.

Most recently, Mr. Trump has publicly demanded that the Justice Department investigate the Russia investigation itself.

In response, Mr. Rosenstein has walked a perilous line. Faced with threats on his job, he told Republicans in Congress that he would not be "extorted." But he has also relented to pressure in some instances, providing information to Congress that would not normally be shared amid an investigation.

And in response to the president's calls for an investigation into whether the F.B.I. used informants to infiltrate his campaign a charge for which there is no public evidence Mr. Rosenstein referred the matter to the inspector general and issued a public statement that some current and former officials said was too tepid.

"If anyone did infiltrate or surveil participants in a presidential campaign for inappropriate purposes, we need to know about it and take appropriate action," Mr. Rosenstein said.

Mr. Rosenstein has said little about his strategy for dealing with the political crosswinds. But he has defended his memo about Mr. Comey. "I wrote it. I believe it. I stand by it," he said in a statement last year. He added that it was never intended to "justify a for-cause termination."

Recently, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the president's lawyer, added a new explanation for Mr. Comey's firing. He said Mr. Trump was upset that Mr. Comey would not publicly clear him in the Russia investigation.

"He fired Comey because Comey would not, among other things, say that he wasn't a target of the investigation," Mr. Giuliani said.

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Odd article.. Are they going after rosenstein now?

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Odd article.. Are they going after rosenstein now?

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They're getting more and more desperate.

And no, they're trying again to claim that firing Comey was "obstruction of justice" and Rosenstein refused to go along with it.

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Odd article.. Are they going after rosenstein now?

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That's why I called it chumming. They are just throwing whatever out there to keep the Anti-Trump narrative alive. Actual facts are playing against them, so they make up their own set.

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Odd article.. Are they going after rosenstein now?

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You haven't even seen the worst ones yet.

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Mr. McCabe's memo, one of several that he wrote, highlights the conflicting roles that Mr. Rosenstein plays in the case. He supervises the special counsel investigation and has told colleagues that protecting it is among his highest priorities. But many current and former law enforcement officials are suspicious of some of his other actions, including allowing some of Mr. Trump's congressional allies to view crucial documents from the investigation.

In conversations with prosecutors, Mr. Trump's lawyers have cited Mr. Rosenstein's involvement in the firing of Mr. Comey as proof that it was not an effort to obstruct justice, according to people familiar with the president's legal strategy.

That argument has only made Mr. Rosenstein's position even more peculiar: He oversees an investigation into the president, who points to Mr. Rosenstein's own actions as evidence that he is innocent. And Mr. Rosenstein could have the final say on whether that argument has merit.

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Good Lord! If the Times can't make up their minds about Rosenstein, is he pro-Trump? Attack! But wait! Is he anti-Trump? Praise him to the highest heavens as our lord and savior!

What agenda driven hypocrites! Not a real journalist in the bunch. Nothing but a bunch of Walter Duranty(s). Frauds.

Except he did go along with it, just didnt use Trumps reasons.

Listen to the clip on soundcloud in the link. Levin brings up a lot of very good points on Gowdys comments

"Putative republican" with lifetime ACU rating over 97.

The spooks have to have pictures of Gowdy and a South Carolina stump broke mare.