Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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You should make that exchange its own thread. Although, I could have done without the pseudo-subliminal commentary.
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Next week.

Next week.


Next week.........
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Within 48 hrs
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Hmmm...IG report within 48 hours and the rumored return of Q on 6/1 ...
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No one answered the question.

Both sides hate each other right now. The left could care less how Trump supporters feel.

I suppose its not that different from how we feel about people who support(ed) Hillary. In my mind I'm thinking, "How can you not see how much of a crook she is?!?!"

The left is saying, "How can you not see how stupid and reckless Trump is?!?!"
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Is this Q missing?
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Another long article about the enigma that is Josef Mifsud. Rambles a bit and it is contradictory in places but the upshot is the theory that if Mifsud was an intelligence asset, it was for Western intelligence and not the Russians.

Frankly, I think that position plays into SpyGate rather than refute it.

Anyway, if you have some time........
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Is Roscoe "Q"?
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Is this Q missing?
He has not posted since 5/22. On the other thread, PMC2012 speculated:

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There was a 10 day stretch Q didnt posts in december to january. I think it could be related to that. If Im right the next Q post will be on June 1st. We shall see.
It has been suggested that there are distinct patterns to the way and timing of some of his posts. As implied above, a ten day gap in the past corresponds to the same length gap now, etc. Or he posts certain numbers that predict something that will happen a certain number of days in the future.

Sorry to get off on a Q tangent, I know some on this thread prefer to keep the Q stuff over there.
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https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/05/26/the_maltese_phantom_of_russiagate_.html

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The Maltese Phantom of Russiagate

...A new book by former colleagues of Mifsud's -- Stephan Roh, a 50-year-old Swiss-German lawyer, and Thierry Pastor, a 35-year-old French political analyst -- reports that he is alive and well. Their account includes a recent interview with him.

Their self-published book, "The Faking of Russia-gate: The Papadopoulos Case, an Investigative Analysis," includes a recent interview with Mifsud in which he denies saying anything about Clinton emails to Papadopoulos. Mifsud, they write, stated "vehemently that he never told anything like this to George Papadopoulos." Mifsud asked rhetorically: "From where should I have this [information]?"...

t appears that U.S. intelligence authorities may have been just as unconcerned about keeping their Italian counterparts informed. For even after the Washington Post revealed his name Oct. 30, Mifsud was giving interviews to the Italian press two days later in the middle of Rome denying that he'd told Papadopoulos anything about Clinton emails....

According to Roh and Pastor's book, Mifsud believes he was set up, and that George Papadopoulos was part of the sting operation....

Mifsud, they write, "was always a 'Clintonist.'"...

If Mifsud was a Western intelligence asset, as Roh and Pastor argue, it's still unclear what his role may have been in the Papadopoulos case....

Long in-depth read on Mifsud, based largely on a newly published book about him. Doesn't sound like he is a Russian agent -- has strong ties to Western intel.

First we have the recent revelation by the Aussie Ambassador Downer that Papadopoulos never mentioned HRC's emails or dirt, only that the Russians possessed damaging info on HRC. Now we have an account that Mifsud denies ever telling Papadopoulos anything about HRC's emails. So how did Papadopoulos ever end up as part of the FBI's EC to initiate it's counterintel investigation in July 2016???

But according to Mueller, Papadopoulos admitted that Mifsud told him about HRC's emails. Something doesn't compute.

(While I was composing this, Aggiehawg already linked the article.)
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Yeah I don't really buy any of the Q stuff. I'm betting it's a thirty year old 4chan guy with too much time on his hands.
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aggiehawg said:

Another long article about the enigma that is Josef Mifsud. Rambles a bit and it is contradictory in places but the upshot is the theory that if Mifsud was an intelligence asset, it was for Western intelligence and not the Russians.

Frankly, I think that position plays into SpyGate rather than refute it.

Anyway, if you have some time........
A key point seems to be the idea that Western intel would not miss a mole in their midst ... which seems to be rather ahistorical.
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First we have the recent revelation by the Aussie Ambassador Downer that Papadopoulos never mentioned HRC's emails or dirt, only that the Russians possessed damaging info on HRC. Now we have an account that Mifsud denies ever telling Papadopoulos anything about HRC's emails. So how did Papadopoulos ever end up as part of the FBI's EC to initiate it's counterintel investigation in July 2016???
Indeed. That is one question. The second is why is he in hiding? If he's not a spy, who wants him dead? The Clintons?

Part of the reason I didn't go to the trouble of quoting parts of the article was that it rambled too much and had too many contradictions to be persuasive to me.

So now we have Mifsud and Downer impersonating this guy?



No one wants to be stuck holding the bag. But Mifsud claiming that Papadop was part of a sting operation is absurd.
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Do you remember the movie "Absence of Malice" with Paul Newman and Sally Field? Don't you think it is possible that someone could have set up a sting to get to this point.
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JTA1029 said:

Yeah I don't really buy any of the Q stuff. I'm betting it's a thirty year old 4chan guy with too much time on his hands.
I can't decide if he is truly a Trump insider or just a masterful troll. Either way, worth following.
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VaultingChemist said:

Do you remember the movie "Absence of Malice" with Paul Newman and Sally Field? Don't you think it is possible that someone could have set up a sting to get to this point.
Using a Ben Carson campaign wet-behind-the-ears foundling like Papadopoulus? Far fetched, to me. Page or Manafort would be more likely in my view.

Here it what is becoming comical to me. There may not have been a formal spy buried within the Trump campaign but it sure as hell wasn't for a lack of trying. While perhaps not concerted and possibly coincidental but there sure were a hell of a lot Clintonistas reaching out to make contacts with the Trump campaign and even his transition team and administration.

From Mifsud to Halper, maybe Dearlove, to the set-up with Don, Jr. at Trump Tower with Natalia Veselnitskaya and Ahkmentshin.
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Still a huge gap between stupid and reckless and criminals.
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tsuag10 said:

No one answered the question.

Both sides hate each other right now. The left could care less how Trump supporters feel.

I suppose its not that different from how we feel about people who support(ed) Hillary. In my mind I'm thinking, "How can you not see how much of a crook she is?!?!"

The left is saying, "How can you not see how stupid and reckless Trump is?!?!"

That makes these investigations even more important. If we ever hope to see government function the way it was designed to in our country then Obama/Clinton corruption needs to be punished.

I would say the same thing of the Trump team, but there haven't been any credible crimes exposed through any of this charade.
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Tailgate88 said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

Is this Q missing?
He has not posted since 5/22. On the other thread, PMC2012 speculated:

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There was a 10 day stretch Q didnt posts in december to january. I think it could be related to that. If Im right the next Q post will be on June 1st. We shall see.
It has been suggested that there are distinct patterns to the way and timing of some of his posts. As implied above, a ten day gap in the past corresponds to the same length gap now, etc. Or he posts certain numbers that predict something that will happen a certain number of days in the future.

Sorry to get off on a Q tangent, I know some on this thread prefer to keep the Q stuff over there.
I don't think it get's off tangent at all. We just found out BC17 was Julian Assange, who has been saying trust Q and trust sessions. We'll see.
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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Rule number 1 here on the ranch is " you don't know what you don't know".

There are a few of you who deserve a huge thank you for seeking the truth every day. Without your efforts, we would still be mostly in the dark. I urge you to keep up the great work. I suspect there is still much more that is not known to the public.

Just a guess, there were and are still "spies" in the Trump camp. The FBI is going to continue to do what they do.

I urge you to keep chipping away on what we don't know.
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IMO Papadopoulos was a Clinton plant. He never thought he was going to be caught up in the Mueller probe, so he lied to Mueller and eventually told him anything to escape a major penalty. Note that his sentencing keeps getting delayed.

Regarding Mifsud hiding, he knows that a major political scandal is brewing involving powerful people, two of which are named Clinton...and somehow he is tied into it...was interviewed by Mueller...and Arkancide is an endemic disease among people associated with the Clintons.

Why is Halper hiding too?
57 STATES!
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Bill Browder was detained then released by Spanish Interpol due to a likely Russian warrant.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bill-browder-american-arrest-russian-interpol-warrant-madrid-spain-2018-5-30/
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Techno Fog is a lawyer.
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We already knew Weissman lacks ethics.
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drcrinum said:



Techno Fog is a lawyer.
Comfort in numbers.



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BMX Bandit said:

fasthorses05 said:

Hawg, bindey, do the canons of legal ethics, or now, apparently Professional Responsibility, state that "just the appearance of impropriety from an officer of the court" deems that person unfit for duty?

There's a guy on Dobbs, Chris Farrel,from Judicial Watch, who was paraphrasing that rule/guideline. If so, holy cow, most of the guys on the SC are waaaaay unqualified, especially Mueller.
it probably won't matter on this pro hac admission to SDNY as long as he is in good standing with all his bar admissions, but does show the Judge what a d-bag he is.


Well, it worked

The stormy lawyer has withdrawn his motion to appear pro hoc vice After he was dressed down by the judge
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You really got to hand it to Avenatti and his spin move, he argues he has to protect confidentiality of alleged taped conversations between Stormy's old lawyer & Cohen. Downstairs for cameras, he calls for them all to be released, without blinking!!!
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Quote:

The stormy lawyer has withdrawn his motion to appear pro hoc vice After he was dressed down by the judge.
She gave him a choice. Enter the case and be slapped with a gag order or withdraw his motion. Guess his paid gig at CNN is more important to him than some aging porn star.
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aggiehawg said:

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The stormy lawyer has withdrawn his motion to appear pro hoc vice After he was dressed down by the judge.
She gave him a choice. Enter the case and be slapped with a gag order or withdraw his motion. Guess his paid gig at CNN is more important to him than some aging porn star.
Waiting for an actual transcript to pop up, some of the quotes were hilarious
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RoscoePColtrane said:

You really got to hand it to Avenatti and his spin move, he argues he has to protect confidentiality of alleged taped conversations between Stormy's old lawyer & Cohen. Downstairs for cameras, he calls for them all to be released, without blinking!!!
That guy better stay out of Judge Wood's courtroom even as an observer, if he keeps yapping his mouth and affecting Cohen's right to a fair trial.

(And yes, if anyone is physically present in a judge's courtroom while in session, the judge can call them up for questioning, including lawyers not officially associated with the case at bar. Why the CNN lawyer was allowed to pipe up about revealing Cohen's client list.)
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Love this guys work

https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/30/the-inspector-generals-pending-report/

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The election-related review that is the subject of our forthcoming report is separate from the review that the OIG initiated in March 2018 of the Department's [DOJ] and the FBI's compliance with laws, policies and procedures in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court relating to a certain U.S. person.
So little to no FISA stuff, in any depth. That will be a separate report. Got it.

Just in time for summer reading lists, too.
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