https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1000862125944864768.html


Good summary article.

I agree with you on the trust issue.

It all depends on the voters in November. I have faith a majority are going to reject the lies and deceptions of the corrupt.

The OIG report on Hilary's email scandal should tell us a lot about what lies ahead,

Yes, Mike Rodgers is a real hero in all of this.

Our Republic will be at least severely damaged if not destroyed if all the perpetrators of this coup attempt are not given the maximum punishment. These people were and are continuing to attempt to take down an elected POTUS. This is not about speeding tickets or smoking dope. This is the most serious crime that can be committed against our Republic.

Unless you've been following this stuff intently and in detail for the past year or so, the linked summary above is a great read. This framework not only helps you better grasp what's happened in the past, it should make understanding future developments flow a lot better also. I know it will for me.

The OIG report that is due out is only about HRC email investigation review.

The other stuff people are so upset about (FISA abuse and spying) isn't due out for weeks after that.

TurkeyBaconLeg said:

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The OIG report that is due out is only about HRC email investigation review.

The other stuff people are so upset about (FISA abuse and spying) isn't due out for weeks after that.

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That is correct, looking for the HRC email report this weekI'm guessing Thursday 423 pages is a bit large for a Friday Rollout.

The FISA/Surveillance phase should be interesting and I look for it Late August and should be interesting because Horowitz doesn't have to request documents and wait on them, he can access them directly, unredacted, from the DOJ file vault. That's one good aspect of letting the OIG compile the evidense, because he has direct access. No subpoenas, no formal requests, just get them himself, and question all parties involved still employed by the DOJ, and if he find someone outside of the department that needs to be questioned, he calls Huber and have them requested to be be brought in or subpoenaed for questioning by the USAtty.

Judging a book by it's cover, meaning I didn't read it, that's an amazing statement.

Bill Clinton did everything but burn down Ken Starr's house. You couldn't go more than 24 hours without someone from that administration, or other Dem, blasting Ken Starr for being born.

Reservoir Dog said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I think it's been said on this thread before. But worth noting as it relates to the link just posted.

It appears Mike Rodgers is a real American hero.

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Knowing all the Mike Rodgers did to bring this nefarious activity to light, I'm surprised he's still alive... and I say that with all seriousness.

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Normally the way it works is you're "suicided" BEFORE you release or expose something. If they bumped him off afterwards it brings unnecessary attention. They were all caught off guard when he shut it down and also never expected the secret trip to Trump Tower.

Of course Seth Rich was a bit different but I think he was made an example of to future potential leakers whereas Rodgers was too high profile, especially compared to Rich.

Prosperdick said:

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Reservoir Dog said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I think it's been said on this thread before. But worth noting as it relates to the link just posted.

It appears Mike Rodgers is a real American hero.

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Knowing all the Mike Rodgers did to bring this nefarious activity to light, I'm surprised he's still alive... and I say that with all seriousness.

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Normally the way it works is you're "suicided" BEFORE you release or expose something. If they bumped him off afterwards it brings unnecessary attention. They were all caught off guard when he shut it down and also never expected the secret trip to Trump Tower.

Of course Seth Rich was a bit different but I think he was made an example of to future potential leakers whereas Rodgers was too high profile, especially compared to Rich.

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Completely agree... I believe his visit to Trump Tower saved his life.

Sounds like someone is dragging their feet

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In public, Michael Avenatti, Ms. Clifford's current attorney, has been among the most vocal critics of Michael Cohen, the lawyer who paid her $130,000 in October 2016 to sign a nondisclosure agreement about an alleged 2006 sexual encounter with Mr. Trump.

But behind the scenes, Mr. Avenatti has slowed prosecutors' efforts to discuss the nondisclosure agreement with Ms. Clifford's former lawyer, these people say. Mr. Avenatti also demanded to review documents investigators subpoenaed from Ms. Clifford's former manager, they said.

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Mr. Avenatti hasn't yet acted on multiple requests from federal prosecutors in Manhattan for Ms. Clifford to waive the attorney-client privilege that prevents her former lawyer from discussing their communications about the nondisclosure deal, the people familiar with the matter said. In April, Mr. Avenatti, acting in his capacity as Ms. Clifford's current lawyer, sent a cease-and-desist letter to her former lawyer, Keith Davidson, ordering him not to disclose any communications related to her, one of those people said.

Mr. Avenatti made similar demands of Ms. Clifford's former manager, Gina Rodriguez, who helped engineer the hush-money deal. Mr. Avenatti tried to block Ms. Rodriguez from providing her communications with Ms. Clifford to federal prosecutors until he had reviewed them, other people familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Avenatti has told federal prosecutors he is trying to get Ms. Clifford to agree to waive her attorney-client privilege, but prosecutors have come to believe he is stringing them along, the people familiar with the matter said. The delays in responding to their requests to waive privilege aren't seen as highly damaging to the probe but have frustrated investigators, they said.

On Monday, Mr. Avenatti said he and Ms. Clifford have "cooperated fully" with government prosecutors. He said he and Ms. Clifford are still determining whether to waive privilege and "ironing out the details," including reviewing documents he has sought from Mr. Davidson.

"We have already started producing documents to the government so any suggestion we are not cooperating is meritless," Mr. Avenatti said.

Mr. Avenatti said he instructed Mr. Davidson to stop communicating about Ms. Clifford, accusing him of "conspiring behind her back with Mr. Cohen." Mr. Davidson has denied allegations that he worked with Mr. Cohen against his former client's interests.

Steven Lubet, a professor at Northwestern Pritzker School of Law who isn't involved in the matter, said while the situation involving Ms. Clifford is unusual, lawyers in general are reluctant to give up attorney-client protections.

Separately, a federal judge last month appointed a special master to assess whether any of the materials seized by Federal Bureau of Investigation agents in a raid on Mr. Cohen's premises should be protected by attorney-client privilege and excluded from the investigation.

As Ms. Clifford's former lawyer, Mr. Davidson has information that could be important to the investigation, because he spoke to Mr. Cohen extensively while negotiating the nondisclosure agreement during Mr. Trump's campaign.

Ms. Rodriguez also worked closely with Ms. Clifford on the deal. Through her lawyer, she has turned over to prosecutors her text messages and emails with Ms. Clifford since 2016 in response to a subpoena, over Mr. Avenatti's objections, other people said.

Mr. Avenatti said in an emailed statement that Ms. Rodriguez's communications with Ms. Clifford are protected by attorney-client privilege because Ms. Rodriguez was acting as a go-between for Ms. Clifford and Mr. Davidson.

Mr. Avenatti said he had a right to review the documents and had threatened to sue Ms. Rodriguez if she refused to provide him with those communications for review.

"We never told her not to provide documents to the government nor did we tell her not to cooperate," Mr. Avenatti said.

Prof. Lubet said Ms. Rodriguez's communications with Ms. Clifford would be protected only if they were for the purpose of conveying legal advice from or giving direction to Mr. Davidson.

Mr. Avenatti also has threatened to sue Ms. Rodriguez to enforce a 2016 nondisclosure agreement between the manager and Ms. Clifford that prevents Ms. Rodriguez from speaking publicly about her work for Ms. Clifford, people familiar with the matter said.

Mr. Avenatti denied making those threats. "That never happened. Period," he said.

The information investigators have requested from Ms. Clifford's former representatives could shed light on her motivations in agreeing to the 2016 deal.

Ms. Clifford has recently said she agreed to the $130,000 deal with Mr. Cohen in 2016 not for the money, but because she feared for her family's safety. That fear, she said, was based on a threat she received from an unidentified man who told her to "leave Trump alone" when a magazine nearly published her story several years earlier.

During Mr. Trump's campaign, "the story was coming out again," Ms. Clifford has said, so she agreed to the hush-money deal rather than subject herself and her family to possible danger.

But in the communications sought by prosecutors, Ms. Clifford didn't mention being threatened or fearing for her safety before making the deal with Mr. Cohen, according to people familiar with the situation. Rather, she was trying actively to sell her story to various outlets, these people say.

Mr. Avenatti called that account "patently false," and said Ms. Clifford spoke of the threat to many people before executing the hush agreement.

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Mr. Avenatti said in an emailed statement that Ms. Rodriguez's communications with Ms. Clifford are protected by attorney-client privilege because Ms. Rodriguez was acting as a go-between for Ms. Clifford and Mr. Davidson.

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Ooops! Unless Rodriguez was also Davidson's client, can't protect it.

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Twitter fight continues....

Rex must have hit a nerve with some deep staters.

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I've been following that scenario on Twitter. Even commented. Rex has threatened legal action.

I think this must one of the reasons for all the secrecy regarding the EO. Most likely Halper is named in the EO; if so, then he filed a field report following his meeting with Carter Page at the Cambridge Symposium on July 11-12, 2016, which would out him as being a paid CIA/FBI 'informant' = a SPY.

Reservoir Dog said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I think it's been said on this thread before. But worth noting as it relates to the link just posted.

It appears Mike Rodgers is a real American hero.

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Knowing all the Mike Rodgers did to bring this nefarious activity to light, I'm surprised he's still alive... and I say that with all seriousness.

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Thought about it too. My suspicion is Trump has made it known that if anything happens to him in particular then he burns the whole thing down including O and Hillary.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1001276564015853569.html

Interesting thread on multiple avenues. I don't have time to parse it thoroughly (have to get up at 5am tomorrow), but the author feels rather strongly that Manafort was a FBI plant in the Trump campaign.

drcrinum said:

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I think this must one of the reasons for all the secrecy regarding the EO. Most likely Halper is named in the EO; if so, then he filed a field report following his meeting with Carter Page at the Cambridge Symposium on July 11-12, 2016, which would out him as being a paid CIA/FBI 'informant' = a SPY.

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EO = EC

This is a really good read, found out some interesting tidbits on John Brennan

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1001241112772775938.html


This thread references another thread I posted 80 pages ago so I will re-link it here. This is by Tracy Diaz aka @TracyBeanz, she works the DC area. When you review this thread check out the Google Search she did on Michael Cohen and notice the top ten hits it returns. This Thread is making the rounds on google.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/998242710824869888.html

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Reservoir Dog said:

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policywonk98 said:

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I think it's been said on this thread before. But worth noting as it relates to the link just posted.

It appears Mike Rodgers is a real American hero.

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Knowing all the Mike Rodgers did to bring this nefarious activity to light, I'm surprised he's still alive... and I say that with all seriousness.

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Thought about it too. My suspicion is Trump has made it known that if anything happens to him in particular then he burns the whole thing down including O and Hillary.

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That wouldn't surprise me a bit... and I certainly hope the message was delivered as forcefully as possible.

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Twitter fight continues....

Rex must have hit a nerve with some deep staters.

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So did someone bring up that our own resident "hardest working man in the oil business" MF Barnes actually got retweeted by Rex for "outing" Asha's ex husband's name. Sorry, I shouldn't say MF Barnes, but rather ldelriego:

Not to derail the thread but I was floored when I saw that Rex retweeted him. This is the twitter war Rex got into with CNN's Asha Rangappa.

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2.9 Undisclosed Participation in Organizations Within the United States. No one acting on behalf of agencies within the Intelligence Community may join or otherwise participate in any organization in the United States on behalf of any agency within the Intelligence Community without disclosing his intelligence affiliation to appropriate officials of the organization, except in accordance with procedures established by the head of the agency concerned and approved by the Attorney General. Such participation shall be authorized only if it is essential to achieving lawful purposes as determined by the agency head or designee. No such participation may be undertaken for the purpose of influencing the activity of the organization or its members except in cases where:
(a) The participation is undertaken on behalf of the FBI in the course of a lawful investigation; or
(b) The organization concerned is composed primarily of individuals who are not United States persons and is reasonably believed to be acting on behalf of a foreign power.

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https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12333.html#2.9

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/14/sergei-skripal-briefing-intelligence-officers-eastern-europe/
Something interesting: Look who visited Estonia during the summer of 2016:

The wrong Michael Cohen meeting with Russians in Prague reported in the Trump Russian dossier has been one of the major inaccuracies identified in the dossier. Apparently that misinformation may have originated in Estonia. It may be more than a coincidence that the British double agent, Col. Skripal, visited Estonia in June 2016, and he was known to have a relationship with Czech intel services in Prague, visiting there as well (specific times not indicated). Skripal had some kind of a connection with Orbis Business Intelligence, although denied, but he would be suspicious for being a source for the dossier:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-poison-spy-steele-dossier-836768
Too many coincidences.

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Prognightmare said:

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What nonsense, at least throw out the transition ones. The incoming administration needs to network internationally as they come into power. Also hard to collude on rigging the election AFTER the election.

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Trump is winning the public perception war with "spy gate". Schumer and co realize this and are instructing the media to legitimize the mueller investigation and not use the word "spy gate" without disclaiming it.

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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/14/sergei-skripal-briefing-intelligence-officers-eastern-europe/
Something interesting: Look who visited Estonia during the summer of 2016:

The wrong Michael Cohen meeting with Russians in Prague reported in the Trump Russian dossier has been one of the major inaccuracies identified in the dossier. Apparently that misinformation may have originated in Estonia. It may be more than a coincidence that the British double agent, Col. Skripal, visited Estonia in June 2016, and he was known to have a relationship with Czech intel services in Prague, visiting there as well (specific times not indicated). Skripal had some kind of a connection with Orbis Business Intelligence, although denied, but he would be suspicious for being a source for the dossier:
http://www.newsweek.com/russia-poison-spy-steele-dossier-836768
Too many coincidences.

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Funny how only a month ago Mueller supposedly had proof Cohen was in Prague and since that time we haven't heard anything. Of course, there's no way Mueller's partisan team would leak proof if they actually had it.

This is such a clown show.

If you are going to lie, lie big?