Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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God it would be fantastic if they could lock up some CNN reporters, Maggie from the NYT and others.
The entire DC based desks at the Times and WaPo could be cell mates.
As long as they put Zucker in solitary, I'll settle for the others "in the general population".

Hawg, blindey, I just had a thought, wouldn't (if proven) this open CNN for multiple civil litigation?
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Warning! I am about to propose a hypothetical that can induce a dangerous rise in blood pressure, induce nausea and hives.

Ted Olson* had an article in The Weekly Standard a few days back regarding the question of whether Mueller could compel Trump's testimony and if so under which set of circumstances and what kind of evidence Mueller would need to present to SCOTUS. Although I find Olson's distinguishing United States v. Nixon and Jones v. Clinton from a case involving Trump and Mueller persuasive, his arguments are not dispositive of the issue, in my view.

If you wish to get into the weeds, the article is HERE.

Here's the nightmare scenario. Who retires from SCOTUS in a few weeks? Kennedy or Thomas? Or both? If anyone announces their retirement and it is effective immediately at the end of the term. Mueller then obtains the grand jury subpoena for Trump and the legal wrangling begins. What will the composition of SCOTUS be when the case reaches them on an expedited basis, sometime this summer or early fall? If it is Kennedy, we are a four-four split. But if it is Thomas? Holy Crap!

The only solution is for Trump to request he gets a heads up if anyone on Scotus wishes to retire and their retirement be contingent upon their successor being confirmed, IMO. But there are no guarantees that will happen. ETA: Not to go all Pelican Brief here but a SCOTUS assassination is always a possibility.

*Yes, I have been critical of Ted Olson in the past. He went BSC after his wife Barbara was killed on 9/11 in the crash into the Pentagon. He's definitely been left of center since that time so his conclusion that Mueller would likely lose in SCOTUS is note-worthy to me.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

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Remember this

Old article from 2017 by Atkisson. Remember when the Obama DOJ spied on Congress and journalists. Its like the main stream media has forgotten that he weaponized the DOJ for political purposes before.

They didn't forget. Obama attempted to destroy anyone who disagreed with him. Most of them lick his boots.
Makes you wonder what the DNC/Obama may have on certain journalists and if that plays a role in their reporting?
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MouthBQ98 said:

Which judge would have jurisdiction over this? A FISA judge?
Either DC or EVA, a lot to choose from. likely would avoid Ellis' court
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While people are making roster and lists. Here's a list with current Vegas Odds on indictment

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https://truepundit.com/fbis-embedded-trump-campaign-spy-vanished-in-sept-2017-is-halper-dead-or-playing-dead/

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FBI's Embedded Trump-Campaign Spy 'Vanished' in Sept. 2017; Is Halper Dead or Playing Dead?

Stefan Halper is officially missing. And he has been for a long time.

The shocking revelation adds more intrigue to an already mysterious and illicit story unfolding inside the FBI.

It would appear someone with top access in the FBI likely tipped Halper off in the fall of 2017 to go underground, or perhaps something worse is at play.

"He went underground," one federal law enforcement source said. "We don't think he is dead but he might be playing dead."

Halper is a professor at the University of Cambridge in the UK. No one has seen him there in months. Halper is an American citizen living in the UK. With an expertise in Chinese culture and commerce, Halper could be somewhere in Asia, one source said...
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Ellis Wyatt said:

aggielee03 said:

Remember this

Old article from 2017 by Atkisson. Remember when the Obama DOJ spied on Congress and journalists. Its like the main stream media has forgotten that he weaponized the DOJ for political purposes before.

They didn't forget. Obama attempted to destroy anyone who disagreed with him. Most of them lick his boots.
Boots? First time I've heard it called that. Some connection to "Puss-n-boots" perhaps?
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Isn't Mifsud missing too? The two guys who set up Papadopoulus in Britain have both gone to ground??

That's not a coincidence, if true.
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aggiehawg said:

Isn't Mifsud missing too? The two guys who set up Papadopoulus in Britain have both gone to ground??

That's not a coincidence, if true.
Trump and Cohen had them killed...actually kidnapped first, then killed - libs.
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aggiehawg said:

Isn't Mifsud missing too? The two guys who set up Papadopoulus in Britain have both gone to ground??

That's not a coincidence, if true.


Maybe they put him in witness protection to hide him from investigators and are using that lame excuse that his cover might be blown to justify redactions?
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Maybe they put him in witness protection to hide him from investigators and are using that lame excuse that his cover might be blown to justify redactions?
Halper has dual citizenship, US/British. Mifsud is Maltese. Doubt they would be in the US under the US Marshals' care. Either MI6 or CIA stashed them in a safe house somewhere in Europe and successfully hid that from Pompeo. Haspel might be a different animal, though. She'd find that out.

Third option is both were double agents for Russia and have been exfiltrated.
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This almost seems too good to be true, but this requires independent confirmation. Perhaps someone filed a formal complaint. This chap is a quality poster though....
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Mass hysteria incoming, if true
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drcrinum said:






This almost seems too good to be true, but this requires independent confirmation. Perhaps someone filed a formal complaint. This chap is a quality poster though....

Fake news
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Sorry I call bs.
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Edit: Tweet from BC17 now deleted but it said POTUS tweets coming soon.
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jjeffers1 said:


Fake news
Would certainly hope it is. Way too much going well to do something like this.
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backintexas2013 said:

Sorry I call bs.
If it is true, I think we'll know about it pretty quickly. The MSM would blow a gasket if this was true.
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That's really Vegas odds? Holy chit that's hilarious and sad at the same time!
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RoscoePColtrane said:

While people are making roster and lists. Here's a list with current Vegas Odds on indictment


Bob Mueller with longer odds than Obama
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Hidden message to MSM in the fake FCC raid, start shredding.
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if they had been raided, the reporters there would be tweeting about it by now.
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Could be an intentional fake news story to see how people at CNN and MSNBC react.

It gets them all thinking about the "what if"

Someone may be watching what certain people do.

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Hhmm. according to this Buzzfeed article from February Mifsud's story takes a turn:

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Over the course of what Anna describes as an on-and-off relationship spanning three years, the couple saw each other in Rome, Moscow, and Kiev. But unlike in Rome and Moscow, where Mifsud frequently received visitors, Mifsud didn't use his trips to Ukraine to network. "He didn't meet people in Kiev. 'Russia-Ukraine relationship not good, and I do a lot of work in Moscow,'" Anna recalled Mifsud saying.

Anna said she and Mifsud last met in person in Kiev in early April 2017. He told her then that he had recently been questioned by the FBI in the US, she said.

"He told me he was in his hotel room when he was called downstairs by reception. It was the FBI. He said they wanted to talk about connections he set up between people in Britain and Russia."
"He said his phone was probably being checked," Anna added.

In mid-May, about a month after Mifsud left Kiev, Anna found out she was pregnant. And six weeks ago she gave birth to a baby girl.

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In messages sent in late September, Mifsud wrote, "You will be the most beautiful mummy I cannot stop thinking of you." In another message, he wrote, "I am so proud of youuuuu I think we need to get a nanny to help you."

But there were also signs that Mifsud was not as enthusiastic as he portrayed himself, and the tone of their messages changed in the final months of her pregnancy. The professor stopped answering the phone and would reply only to Anna's WhatsApp messages, saying he was ill with heart problems or in the hospital, but promising to fly to her as soon as he was given the green light.

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In late October, he told her in a message that he was "fighting to live."
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A Ukrainian woman named Anna says Joseph Mifsud asked her to marry him in a restaurant overlooking the Kremlin. Later, he allegedly told a Trump campaign aide that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. She hasn't heard from him since that news broke in October.
So he and Halper disappeared in the fall of 2017? Mifsud sounds more like he was a Russian agent to me.
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aggielee03 said:

Remember this

Old article from 2017 by Atkisson. Remember when the Obama DOJ spied on Congress and journalists. Its like the main stream media has forgotten that he weaponized the DOJ for political purposes before.
I don't think they forgot it, I do believe they were okay with it.

I certainly think they knew what he was doing, but many cast any suspicion aside because, as usual, it helped the cause. Secondly, there weren't enough genuine national guys who had an issue with it, and thirdly, they just don't believe anything Obama/Clinton/the Dems do would be that corrosive.

Great judge of human nature and history. Well, just not the history we all read.
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aggiehawg said:

Hhmm. according to this Buzzfeed article from February Mifsud's story takes a turn:

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Over the course of what Anna describes as an on-and-off relationship spanning three years, the couple saw each other in Rome, Moscow, and Kiev. But unlike in Rome and Moscow, where Mifsud frequently received visitors, Mifsud didn't use his trips to Ukraine to network. "He didn't meet people in Kiev. 'Russia-Ukraine relationship not good, and I do a lot of work in Moscow,'" Anna recalled Mifsud saying.

Anna said she and Mifsud last met in person in Kiev in early April 2017. He told her then that he had recently been questioned by the FBI in the US, she said.

"He told me he was in his hotel room when he was called downstairs by reception. It was the FBI. He said they wanted to talk about connections he set up between people in Britain and Russia."
"He said his phone was probably being checked," Anna added.

In mid-May, about a month after Mifsud left Kiev, Anna found out she was pregnant. And six weeks ago she gave birth to a baby girl.

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In messages sent in late September, Mifsud wrote, "You will be the most beautiful mummy I cannot stop thinking of you." In another message, he wrote, "I am so proud of youuuuu I think we need to get a nanny to help you."

But there were also signs that Mifsud was not as enthusiastic as he portrayed himself, and the tone of their messages changed in the final months of her pregnancy. The professor stopped answering the phone and would reply only to Anna's WhatsApp messages, saying he was ill with heart problems or in the hospital, but promising to fly to her as soon as he was given the green light.

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In late October, he told her in a message that he was "fighting to live."
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A Ukrainian woman named Anna says Joseph Mifsud asked her to marry him in a restaurant overlooking the Kremlin. Later, he allegedly told a Trump campaign aide that Russia had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. She hasn't heard from him since that news broke in October.
So he and Halper disappeared in the fall of 2017? Mifsud sounds more like he was a Russian agent to me.
Would that not be fitting: BHO and crew plant two moles in the Trump Campaign, who are actually double agents working for the Russians.
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Would that not be fitting: BHO and crew plant two moles in the Trump Campaign, who are actually double agents working for the Russians.
Indeed it would.

Halper's disappearance is a head scratcher to me. Seems that would be a Code Red within the British and American ICs, if he was truly as valuable a source as they are saying. And his disappearance appears unrelated to his recently being named in the news since it happened last fall.
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BHO and FBI would know if they were double agents. They were doubling down on the Russia collusion narrative. I don't believe in coincidences. I learned that from Leroy Jethro Gibbs.
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Tailgate88 said:

Edit: Tweet from BC17 now deleted but it said POTUS tweets coming soon.
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Desperation play by Team Mueller:

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Lawyers from special counsel Robert Mueller's team have filed as special assistant U.S. attorneys in their case against former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort, a move that could make it harder for a federal judge to move the case to a different court.

Politico reported Monday that several attorneys on Mueller's team signed off on court filings as both representatives of Mueller's office, and as special assistant United States attorneys.

The latter designation potentially gives them the authority to focus on matters beyond the special counsel's mandate.

Peter Carr, a spokesman for the special counsel's office, told Politico that the status would give them the same powers as a regular U.S. attorney.
Hhmm. Cute maneuver there.

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Manafort's lawyers have motioned to dismiss the charges against him in Virginia, arguing that Mueller exceeded the scope of his legal authority by investigating the former Trump associate's business dealings.

Politico reported that if Mueller's lawyers obtained their special status before the first indictment against Manafort, it would likely undermine that argument.

Mueller's team provided the judge in the case, T.S. Ellis III, with an unredacted memo detailing the scope of his investigation last week.

Ellis requested the full memo in order to assess the validity of Manafort's claim that the special counsel had exceeded its scope.
Always moving goal posts, that Mueller.

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But not so fast there, Robby:

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The appointment of Robert Mueller violates the Appointments Clause of the Constitution. Mueller is not an inferior appointee, but a principal appointee as understood under our constitutional. His powers are more akin to an United States attorney, not an assistant United States attorney. Moreover, his boss, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, treats him as a principal officer -- that is, Mueller is mostly free to conduct his investigation with few limits or restraints.

The parameters of his appointment were extraordinarily broad in the first instance, and have only expanded since then. Indeed, Mueller is more powerful than most United States attorneys, all of whom were nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate as principal officers.

Furthermore, Rosenstein mostly rubber stamps Mueller's decisions and is not involved in the regular management and oversight of Mueller to any significant extent, underscoring Mueller's role not as an inferior officer but a principal officer. As such, Mueller's appointment violates the Appointments Clause.

Mueller would've had to be nominated for Senate confirmation like any other principal officer in the Executive Branch. Rosenstein did not have the constitutional power to appoint a principal officer on his own anymore than the President himself does.
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who is BC17?
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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FriscoKid said:

who is BC17?
It really belongs in the Q thread. It's a twitter account that is either linked to Q or just follows Q and acts like he/she is connected
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Yeah, that's trash then.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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I was only joking. "predicting" a Trump tweet is coming is not exactly a big feat.
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