Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Need to change tour Name to Drsyllabus
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I think DrNutCase would be more appropriate.
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Watch the segment with John Solomon from 10:30 -- 14:30 last night. This will be more out on this today.

Three FBI agents approached Deripaska in September 2016 about exposing collusion between Manafort and Russia regarding the Election Campaign. (I assume McCabe played a direct role in this.) Deripaska laughed at them and said it was ridiculous. The discussion ended with them asking Deripaska to keep an open mind about it. Remember, Deripaska was having visa entry problems at the time, and in the background was the Robert Levinson case & Deripaska's feud with Manafort over a business deal that went south (he later sued Manafort in January 2018).
This incident took place less than two months before both the FISA warrant application and the Election.
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Guys, unfortunately I have appointments today and will be unavailable for awhile. But others can comment on a few of the mini-bombshells contained the filings yesterday by Team Mueller in the Virginia Manafort case, found HERE

As you read that, remember Team Manafort is under a very strict gag order and are prohibited from commenting or refuting anything said in the press.

Also, playing hide and seek with search warrant applications when a motion to suppress has been filed seems iffy to me, other court cases pending or not. Maybe offering to file an unredacted version under seal with the court cures that or maybe it doesn't. Certainly doesn't sit well as an example of fairness, though.

And as the final example of some bad faith crap going on in Team Mueller, I'll leave you with this:

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"The bottom line is that Cyprus had not fully satisfied the government's official request when the original and superseding indictment of Manafort were returned on February 13 and 22, respectively," Weissman notes. "As a result, no 'final action' had yet occurredand the applicable statute of limitations remained suspended."

Manafort was unaware of the existing order when he made his request to have the count tossed, Weissman adds. A copy of the order has since been provided to the defense.

A waiver of the statute of limitations cannot exceed three years.
WTH??? I have been openly wondering about the Statute of Limitations issues. But Team Mueller secretly got it suspended and never told Manafort's lawyers until now??
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jjeffers1 said:

RoscoePColtrane said:



Uh...What?
Yeah, that one shocked me too!

I'll be interested to see his NKVD/KGB/FSB card. I can't imagine someone NOT calling his bluff on this. Better yet, I can't imagine Ellis not having some kind of say in this.
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Weissman doesn't care about the law and loves to openly ignore it.
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I'm traveling and really busy all day today. I'll post when I can.

Doubling down on the "hide the ball" strategy with judge Ellis sounds like a bad idea to me.
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Well Hillary, Lerner and Holder may have a problem then if you can secretly waive the SL at will
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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/05/15/ramifications-of-oleg-deripaska-and-contact-by-fbi-in-september-2016/

The latest from TCTH this morning. He has compiled a list of 7 very important questions regarding issues involving Deripaska along with supporting references. Rather than post excerpts, I think it would be better to just read the article. Certain people don't want Deripaska to testify before the HPSCI, and if you read the article, you will understand why Grassley has been onto Deripaska.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Well Hillary, Lerner and Holder may have a problem then if you can secretly waive the SL at will
One can only hope!

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RoscoePColtrane said:

Well Hillary, Lerner and Holder may have a problem then if you can secretly waive the SL at will
Holy Cow! Imagine the fun times that could be had with all present, and prior, defendants if a loop hole is found in the SL law.
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Every decision and action has unintended consequences.

Every bad decision and action have really terrible unintended consequences.

The statute of limitations claim could go horribly wrong for team Mueller.
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HERO! Well done Sir


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Oops

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RoscoePColtrane said:

Oops


Can't or won't?? He knows and punted with legally approved language IMO
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Looks like Mike Flynn Jr may have given an interview

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He even said he "might" be able to say more in a classified setting.
If I was a betting man, I'd bet the farm he didn't name names.
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It will be great if Flynn is proven to be a genuine and great patriot and father through all of this.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

It will be great if Flynn is proven to be a genuine and great patriot and father through all of this.
Think about all of this. Regardless of the outcome Flynn hasn't complained or pointed fingers. I'm pretty certain he knew anything he said on the phone was monitored. I don't think he could 100% recall what he said on the call, and when they ambushed him with this interview with Strzok and Pientka he recalled best he could, and Weissmann came back with the Charging Document he figured he screwed up and stood ready to take his medicine, when actually he did nothing wrong. He stood ready to take the cigarette and blindfold and go out like a soldier. Hard to get much more Patriotic than that.
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The answer to Cotten's question was not classified. He did not ask who it was.

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I'm just a lay person so I'll ask ... I'm taking it that the statute of limitations can not be waived secretly or not secretly, can it? If it's a law, I don't understand how a judge or anyone else can waive it. What did I miss?
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coyote68 said:

The answer to Cotten's question was not classified. He did not ask who it was.


Good point but it's likely his pivot line to the FBI doesn't address ongoing investigations and don't even acknowledge if they even exist. It's the go to pass line
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Farmer Ag said:

I'm just a lay person so I'll ask ... I'm taking it that the statute of limitations can not be waived secretly or not secretly, can it? If it's a law, I don't understand how a judge or anyone else can waive it. What did I miss?
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Farmer Ag said:

I'm just a lay person so I'll ask ... I'm taking it that the statute of limitations can not be waived secretly or not secretly, can it? If it's a law, I don't understand how a judge or anyone else can waive it. What did I miss?
I know there is a legal mechanism to extend the SL timer, but it's the in secret part that is the big issue I think. There is a set outline of requirements to have to be met, but the SL can be extended, I just think there has to be a hearing over it you'd think, or at least formal notification in the GJ and indictment phase. Blindley or Hawg may have to clarify that.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

coyote68 said:

The answer to Cotten's question was not classified. He did not ask who it was.


Good point but it's likely his pivot line to the FBI doesn't address ongoing investigations and don't even acknowledge if they even exist. It's the go to pass line
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I agree.

I just have a great disdain for people who are evasive and hide things. When Wray was a kid, he hid behind his mother. Weak personality. Weak leader.

Anyway, you are probably correct. Just needed to vent.
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a defendant could waive the statute of limitations defense in theory, but no one in history ever has or ever would.

a judge cannot waive limitations.

however, they can be tolled in some situations. the only ones I can thing of that would possibly apply here (potentially) would be a superseding indictment or if there is evidence in a foreign country that a grand jury needs.
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Farmer Ag said:

I'm just a lay person so I'll ask ... I'm taking it that the statute of limitations can not be waived secretly or not secretly, can it? If it's a law, I don't understand how a judge or anyone else can waive it. What did I miss?
I can say this now since blindey and Hawg are traveling and making appointments, and may slap down my cynical butt later.

But, IMO, a judge, especially a liberal judge, can say the law says anything they want it to say. If you have a command of the English language, which most lawyers do, then there isn't much you can't ajudicate to your liking. The main caveat being that "your liking " is your political party!

I'm sure somewhere in mid-70's the Dems figured this out, and have been aggressively trying to "groom" the judiciary for 40 years.

So, to answer you question, I'm sure a judge can stretch the law to their liking, especially to get Trump. Besides, it would likely get several million dollars in their brand new Cayman bank account. Tom Steyman, Soros, or any of the other funders from the $50 million club collected from Diane Feinstein's Chief of Staff.
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In the case of Manafort is looks like they may have just pulled a shelved investigation and shopped it to a GJ, would the clock be running all that time? Should be right?
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BMX Bandit said:

a defendant could waive the statute of limitations defense in theory, but no one in history ever has or ever would.

a judge cannot waive limitations.

however, they can be tolled in some situations. the only ones I can thing of that would possibly apply here (potentially) would be a superseding indictment or if there is evidence in a foreign country that a grand jury needs.
What happened here was the "need" for evidence from banks in Cyprus and that foreign evidence was sufficient enough for a judge (presumably the one overseeing the grand jury, it is unclear) suspended the SoL while Team Mueller was trying to get the evidence. A narrow exception that is inapplicable in the vast number of everyday cases.

There are other instances were SoLs can be tolled, when the crime is concealed by fraud for example.
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I am VERY sorry to interrupt. What is SL/ SoL?
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Statute of limitations
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Cool, thanks. I didn't catch what the referred to/ context.
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Have a moment between appointments.

Back to the action in the Manafort case yesterday. From the same link:

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Special Counsel Robert Mueller asked a federal judge Monday to deny Paul Manafort's request for a hearing exploring "allegedly improper disclosures" made by the media, which the former Trump campaign chairman says ruined his chances for a fair trial.

Monday's request came in a flurry of filings at the federal Virginia Court where Manafort faces trial on bank and tax fraud charges beginning July 10.

According a 19-page motion filed by Andrew Weissman, special assistant to special counsel Robert Mueller, Manafort's claims of prejudice fall short since his "sampling of press reports" don't point to specific information about his grand jury investigation last year.

"The government attorneys and agents involved in this case understand and respect their duty to preserve grand-jury secrecy as required by Rule 6(e) [of the Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure] and to avoid public disclosures that could jeopardize a defendant's right to a fair trial," the motion states. "Manafort's speculative claim of improper conduct falls far short of the showing necessary to warrant a hearing on potential violations of Rule 6e or of his constitutional rights."

Any concerns of pretrial prejudice can be resolved during jury selection, Weissman wrote.
Well, yes and no. Seems to me a motion for change of venue would have been the more direct way of addressing this. Voir dire has its limits in detecting bias, however. But Weissman gets even further out of his lane with this (IMO.)

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Weissman says a threshold question must be answered to prove prejudice: Did information disclosed involve any specific matter occurring before the grand jury? He noted courts have emphasized federal rules "should not be read to require [that] a 'veil of secrecy be drawn over all matters occurring in the world that happen to be investigated by a grand jury."

It's also a matter of who the officials are and what rules they are subject to, Weissman says. References to "officials" or "American officials" in media reports could very well be individuals not subject to Rule 6e's restrictions, he says.

Manafort' request that the court "conduct an inquiry to identify and punish" government officials who disclosed the information, including suspected classified information, should also be ignored, the motion states.

"That would place the court in an inquisitorial role, that is, to say the least, unusual," Weissman writes. "While federal courts have some authority to investigate misconduct [in grand jury proceedings] they generally do not have the power to act as investigators or prosecutors of misconduct."
This doesn't sit well with me for a couple of reasons, starting with the gag order on Manafort and his attorneys. Team Mueller can leak with impunity and Manafort is helpless to say anything in his defense.

Further, telling the Court that they are powerless to question and then sanction someone who is in their court is tempting fate. Leaks from anyone on Team Mueller can be attributed to the attorneys before him. The judge can demand affidavits from all Team Mueller members working on the Manafort cases, for instance, or take other steps.

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Is there a gag order in place? If so, Weissman is effectively trying to tell the judge he can't control the practice of law in his own court. That's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
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blindey said:

Is there a gag order in place? If so, Weissman is effectively trying to tell the judge he can't control the practice of law in his own court. That's a bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
It's in the other case before Judge Berman Jackson.


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Newly released court documents show that a federal judge reprimanded Paul Manafort for breaking a gag order she had imposed on his case.

At a court appearance in Washington, D.C. on February 28, Judge Amy Berman Jackson chastised President Trump's former campaign chairman, saying, "I want to reiterate, Mr. Manafort, that the order that I issued, over no one's objection, does not just apply to Mr. Downing [Manafort's lawyer], but it applies to you, and issuing a statement about the prosecution, I believe, is contrary to the order," according to an official court transcript.

Jackson referenced a statement issued on behalf of Manafort on the day that his former business associate and co-defendant Rick Gates pleaded guilty in his own case. She didn't specify what the statement said, but it appears to be the one Manafort released on Feb. 23, which read, "Notwithstanding that Rick Gates pled today, I continue to maintain my innocence."


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If she got pissed about that, she would get pissed about anything said about the Virginia case publicly, too.
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