Rockdoc said:

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The denial out there will be strong.

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I was going to say!

You know Judge Ellis has been getting all kinds of threats---death, and otherwise.

backintexas2013 said:

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Wow one thread took that many down? Had to be a McCain thread.

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Pretty sure it was something about calling other posters child molesters. If I remember correctly, it was a McCain thread.

I doubt there was this much planning on responding to this. They simply thought they had a Trump setup in the bag and they could bully or intimidate him or hopefully get at his records and get to his inner circle and find crimes. They were ideologically sure an international billionaire couldn't be clean (because the progressive ones generally aren't, with some exceptions) , that they were confident they could make something stick, or worst case, push his numbers down so low that they could retake congress and use congress to politically disabled trump and also stop all investigations of crimes of the previous administration.

There were varying degrees of knowledge of the extent of the broader conspiracy and varying levels of involvement by the participants, but most of them were driven by either self-righteous Resistance ideology or selfish political gamesmanship, or a strong desire to not have their own careers and reputations destroyed, or worse. They were very motivated to take comparably large risks because they were overconfident of success, presuming that conservatives had to be at least as corrupt as they were.

fasthorses05 said:

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Rockdoc said:

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The denial out there will be strong.

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I was going to say!

You know Judge Ellis has been getting all kinds of threats---death, and otherwise.

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Holy cow, had not heard that!

Rock, I'm not saying that he has, but knowing how the left reacts to ANYTHING that they don't like, and based on history, it's probably happened, will continue to happen. Folks on the left just haven't been punished that much since 2008, and to a degree, that type of thinking lead to this whole fiasco.

So, I haven't heard, but I'm sure it's happened. Sorry if I suggested it's a fact.

Gotcha

If the UK was as heavily involved as it seems they were involved with the potential coup, what happens when it is proven? We are talking about two countries that have fought against each other and with each other in our histories. Sanction the UK?

Do they have any sort of deniability or do y'all think a similar purge will take place within their government? With Brexit passing, it seems that the people there are as tired of the general BS that stems from government and its policies (the EU, massive refugee populations, etc.). Is someone from the UK looking into their government as much as we are here?

Talk about a huge cluster-****. My goodness the globalists thought they had the world by the balls.

MouthBQ98 said:

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I doubt there was this much planning on responding to this. They simply thought they had a Trump setup in the bag and they could bully or intimidate him or hopefully get at his records and get to his inner circle and find crimes. They were ideologically sure an international billionaire couldn't be clean (because the progressive ones generally aren't, with some exceptions) , that they were confident they could make something stick, or worst case, push his numbers down so low that they could retake congress and use congress to politically disabled trump and also stop all investigations of crimes of the previous administration.

There were varying degrees of knowledge of the extent of the broader conspiracy and varying levels of involvement by the participants, but most of them were driven by either self-righteous Resistance ideology or selfish political gamesmanship, or a strong desire to not have their own careers and reputations destroyed, or worse. They were very motivated to take comparably large risks because they were overconfident of success, presuming that conservatives had to be at least as corrupt as they were.

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That's kinda my point though. Once the SC was established these type of players were probably begging to join the hunt so they could get their name on a pound of flesh.

Add Mueller going out and recruiting one or two others that didn't volunteer.

And this last part is what makes it all work, Mueller wouldn't have to direct them to go do anything unethical or illegal, they'd do it of their own initiative b/c of what I bolded, and that they were even more emboldened by being part of this super over-reaching SC/counter-intel investigation. Mueller just never tells them no to anything they want to do, allowing them to dig their holes even deeper.

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Looks like a globalist cabal of various interests with American allies in the Obama administration and Clinton campaign was invested in ensuring a Clinton victory, then furious that Trump improbably defeated her anyhow and became desperate to cover their tracks once they realized the full implications of a potentially rightfully vengeful Trump with the powers of president. I think relatively few persons knew the full extent of this mess, but a few must have known or suspected the overall plan, though most only understood their goals and their individual role to play to help reach the overall goal of inhibiting Trump.

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There's that word again.

I seem to remember a poster on another thread who was tarred and feathered for suggesting such an entity existed.

With the expansion of the degrees of separation, perhaps the word cabal, and one with a global nature takes on better meaning.

backintexas2013 said:

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Wow one thread took that many down? Had to be a McCain thread.

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https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/2950204/replies

See post #1 for the mod comment.

Not sure if you guys listen to Rush, but he has basically stated everything that has been covered here.

So either we are right, or he got his info here...

ETA: 3rd scenario is we are all wrong...but I doubt it.

No worries. I appreciate what you and others do to keep us informed.

Keep up the good work.

MouthBQ98 said:

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most of them were driven by either self-righteous Resistance ideology or selfish political gamesmanship, or a strong desire to not have their own careers and reputations destroyed, or worse.

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Great point right here. Lots of people with lots of access and connections were willing to jump on team Mueller at any chance they got because of their desire to "get" Trump instead of any desire to see that justice is done.

Mueller let them run as fast as they wanted in any direction. At first, everything looked to be on the up-and-up. Flynn was obviously guilty and there was tons of smoke and therefore fire on some sort of conspiracy theory that the sneaky Russians did a thing to make the right people vote for Trump and that now Trump was in Voldemort Putin's back pocket.

Then it started to fall apart and now its visible to everyone that it was a total sham from the get-go.

Did anyone else catch the first hour of Rush today?

It doesn't have to mean an ongoing international entity. It merely may be a bunch of Obama administration, top level federal bureaucrats, and some like-minded foreign political allies and a few intelligence assets formed a group or team around a single purpose: to prevent Trump from winning or to disable his presidency if he did. It could be a one-time single purpose and loosely organized entity.

We're not talking about some ongoing conspiracy theory magnet, like many crazy conspiracy theories or spy fictions. We're talking about an ad-hoc single purpose entity that was cobbled together around the mission of protecting the status quo of the internationalist progressivist alliance between the USA under Obama and the current western European governments (Plus Canada, Australia, etc) that have been more than pleased to have a sycophantic group of American progressive Europhiles playing the Lenny to their George.

None of these guys wanted their gravy train of technocratic power (and wealth) seriously disturbed, and Trump threatened to do just that by boosting a resurgence of pan-Atlantic conservative nationalism and also by exposing some of the corruption that had been taking by place in the USA in particular under Obama.

Hillary was supposed to win and sustain 8 more years of this, and possibly lock into place sustained progressive dominance. Trump thwarted that inadvertendly, and so he had to be neutralized as much as possible, by any means that was plausibly or at least apparently legitimate.

So, when I say cabal, it is in reference to an assembly of like-minded progressives and goblalist focused bureaucrats and politicians in the USA and Europe that saw their carefully constructed progressive agenda under serious threat of major setbacks, and so formed a plot to protect their status quo as much as possible.

Yup. It read like he's a poster here.

Rockdoc said:

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Yup. It read like he's a poster here.

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It was damn good! FBI and CIA are in deep *****

Prognightmare said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Yup. It read like he's a poster here.

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It was damn good! FBI and CIA are in deep *****

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Dang it. Anywhere to catch a replay?

Prognightmare said:

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Rockdoc said:

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Yup. It read like he's a poster here.

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It was damn good! FBI and CIA are in deep *****

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I thought it was an STO.

Prognightmare said:

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Did anyone else catch the first hour of Rush today?

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Yes.

He might have a podcast on his website, not for sure though.

Prognightmare said:

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He might have a podcast on his website, not for sure though.

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There wasn't anything particularly new if you are up on this thread...just interesting to hear someone "official" who is likely very connected stating the same things as have been covered here.

I noticed on Vachel Lindsay's (aka Imperator Rex) twitter he is very concerned that Trump won't move forward with indictments (specifically for HRC). It's the most agitated I've seen him in a long time but I'm not sure of the trigger.

I certainly hope it doesn't mean the OIG Report is going to be watered down but at this point, who knows.

I listened to Rush.. it wasn't earth shattering. Like someone said, if you follow this thread - you already pretty much up to speed. Rush never said precisely how he confirmed the facts tho..
the basic point - all the collusion/ special counsel/ investigation/ wire tapping, etc, etc .. its all been manufactured. all of it. just to get Trump.
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everything Rush said - it all lined up with whats been here. it checks out.
Rush does have media content/ website - but its a pay site
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The "operative" was described but not named
the operative/ mole set up papadoupolous ... w/ info about HRC emails that Russians had hacked; then arranged for Pappadoupolous to "spill it" to the Aussie ambassador. all arranged to enable another piece of actionable evidence to use (think FISA) vs Trump

Rush echoed everything in the Posobiec video.

Agreed, but this thread does get new eyes that would like a quick summary without reading the whole thread.

aggiehawg said:

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From the long article drcrinum posted naming all of the players, it appears likely that she personally was involved with one of the Page FISA warrant proceedings. Nothing pisses a judge off more than being lied to in their court.

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At some point someone is going to pay for using that unverified dossier in the application. Curious as to why that judge hasn't blown up yet, but thinking/hoping there's a reason to remain silent for now.

Prognightmare said:

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Agreed, but this thread does get new eyes that would like a quick summary without reading the whole thread.

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Just out of curiosity, did he mention anything about the immediate increase in wealth to the Obamas, and others, after the cash delivery of the $1.8 billion to $10.00 billion?

The whole fiasco of Meuller, etc. could get very confusing, very quickly.

But, if they American public were to find out that $700 million a month went to Iran, and a decent chance some of that went to the OBAMA'S and their acolytes, then you'll have a very righteous outrage!

No, it pertained to the setup that they did with PapaD to illegally spy on Trump's team. It was a coordinated effort between a Russian agent, British/US citizen and Australia Ambassador.

I'd definitely like to know more in depth info of what you're referring too.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-may-received-much-33-6-billion-cash-gold-payments-u-s/

Prognightmare said:

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No, it pertained to the setup that they did with PapaD to illegally spy on Trump's team. It was a coordinated effort between a Russian agent, British/US citizen and Australia Ambassador.

I'd definitely like to know more in depth info of what you're referring too.

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No Russian agent involved. Mifsud was initially reported to have Russian ties, but later it turned out he was in bed with UK intel. All three are involved with Hakluyt: Halper, Downer & Mifsud, & Halper has a connection with the CIA/FBI.

Edit: Strzok was investigating Mifsud at one time. I'm not home at the moment, but I'll look later to see what I can find.

Classic

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Pinche Abogado said:

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http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-may-received-much-33-6-billion-cash-gold-payments-u-s/

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And now you know why Kerry is running around frantically trying to make nice with the mullahs to cover Barry's real legacy. Any numbers we know now are likely only 20% of the real number. Barry sold the country away, and if this denuclearization of DPK takes place and there is anyway they can trace the original cake bake to U1 is over for a bunch of people. Right now Kerry is playing messenger for Barry, because I'm sure there is no way Barry is going to speak directly to anyone over there, because now the rabbit has the gun, and if were to be picked up on any communication with the mullahs trying to calm them down, it would be ugly as well. The Iran Deal was nothing but a pilfering of the our treasury.

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At the time, I was appalled by the lack of outrage over the deal--it was clear THEN that it was a sham.