Thanks!

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Then we'll probably see a leak within a day or two, especially if he thinks anything in the information can be used to hurt Trump.

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Maybe a trap for him. Give him something that they know he will want to go to the press about?

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Then we'll probably see a leak within a day or two, especially if he thinks anything in the information can be used to hurt Trump.

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Maybe a trap for him. Give him something that they know he will want to go to the press about?

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He already knows what's in there, that's why he hasn't been screaming to see it. He's going through the motions for theater.

so ive been absent from life for a few months, where we at with this thing. someone summarize for a grateful reb

You missed Mueller's team getting slapped down hard last Friday in Judge Ellis' court. Other than that, we're still waiting for the OIG report to drop.

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so ive been absent from life for a few months, where we at with this thing. someone summarize for a grateful reb

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If you need a good laugh read the Transcript from Judge Ellis' court, world class

https://www.scribd.com/document/378289370/US-v-Manafort-Full-Text-Transcript-Hearing-Motion-May-4-2018#from_embed

Napolitano is sounding like polar opposite of Alex Jones

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Napolitano is sounding like polar opposite of Alex Jones

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Turning the freaking frogs...straight?

No, but it could eliminate an argument over who leaked what if there is a material difference in what was shown that leaks out. If neither knows exactly what the other saw, leaking detailed info becomes quite risky.

Thanks Roscoe and SeMgCo87.

I was thinking Concord would get info today, and didn't see what had occurred. Like SeMgCo87 said, I thought govt might dismiss to keep from disclosing to Concord's attorneys.

This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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Who knows, 85% might be the new normal since I bet they used it to spy on Romney and others that far back.

So just reading the two articles it seems Mueller wants no part of having to release any info.

Maybe a lawyer can help me but isn't that a requirement of the prosecution going to trial?

Need lawyer help here.

That's the long and short of it. In order to generate headlines, his team decided to prosecute a bunch of Russians and some Russian companies with the assumption that none would appear and none would be extradited.

But one of the Russian companies (for the record) decided that it wants to clear its name and fight the charges (off the record, I think a Republican leaning PAC is funding the defense to hire Reed Smith (huge law firm) to hamstring Mueller -- which is working).

But yes, to prosecute, the government has to tell the defendants what it knows. Mueller doesn't want to do this, but on the other hand, he appears weak (and probably subject to sanctions and discipline) if he dismisses the prosecution because a defendant showed up.

What already makes him look bad is that he tried to argue that the case should be delayed to discuss whether the defendant was properly served. But he somehow forgot that service defects are mooted if counsel appears voluntarily on your behalf. So it really makes him look like he got caught with his pants down, too.

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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Who knows, 85% might be the new normal since I bet they used it to spy on Romney and others that far back.

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85% non compliance screams though. Humor me, I have nothing more to build a case for this theory, but it's one I had a while back when I still thought Mueller was a white hat and going through the motions as a distraction while they snare the entire bunch behind this. It's sounds insane, but at this point, what doesn't? Rodgers had the proof of an illegal counter intel op APRIL 2016, Horowitz had proof of corrupt FBI/DOJ agents April 2017. Mueller had this proof May 16 2017. Given to him during the 4hr meeting with Rosey and Trump. Rosey appoints Mueller the next day. Sessions is recused, it gives the absolute look of a fully separated investigation, evolving into a typical SC witch hunt, while they are really fixing to clean the decks. Eleven FBI agents gone. Many DOJ Agents Gone! Everyone who worked for Obama lawyered up. C/Foundation under investigation, Uranium 1 being looked at, FISA being looked into, HRC Email case reopened.

It raises one question I can never answer. If Mueller was covering for swamp, how does he stop Rodgers, FISC, and Horowitz , Huber and all the Honest people involved who have exposed the corruption and lies? Mueller can't be that daft knowing the world is on fire all around him. The Clintons made their move ON THE TAR MAC, and the FISA spying plan was put in motion from there I think, July 2016 was a bombshell month and the beginning of an avalanche. The FISA move was to cover up 8 months of illegal SPYING by Hilary and Obama had already been doing "out of compliance".

This is a Mark Barnett level Wag the Dog.

And no I haven't cracked the seal any bourbon this early.

I think Mueller is in too deep at this point and it's like going all in at poker, he's stuck with this hand and he's now trying to bluff everyone into folding (or hoping that by impeaching Trump that occurs).

I agree it's crazy and makes me think he's heavily implicated if everything comes to light.

Thanks.

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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The word "contractors" fits in that last redacted spot.

Between you and Prosperdick, why doesn't Meuller just throw caution to the wind, and present his findings for impeachment?

I say that a because it sounds like he's played his ace. It doesn't sound like he's finished, or can't recover, but it does sound like he needs to make his move, as the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for his team.

Am I out in left field?

my 2 cents.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/994651608460935169.html

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The fight continues, as will our efforts to discern the truth hidden in all the noise. If we don't stop to take stock of what has been accomplished from time to time, and recharge our batteries and our humanity, we run the risk of forgetting exactly what it is we're fighting for

And make no mistake, this fight is for the very soul of our planet and species not just one nation.

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Sometimes it's a good move to take a moment and "stop to smell the flowers".

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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The word "contractors" fits in that last redacted spot.

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But this does, you can see at least five figures was the amount of queries, that's a lot, and two digits on targeted offices

Cutouts fits Contractors is too many letters

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Between you and Prosperdick, why doesn't Meuller just throw caution to the wind, and present his findings for impeachment?

I say that a because it sounds like he's played his ace. It doesn't sound like he's finished, or can't recover, but it does sound like he needs to make his move, as the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for his team.

Am I out in left field?

my 2 cents.

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Personally I think they are hoping all the surveillance turns up something they can use to inflict as much damage to Trump as possible, so its in their best interest to draw it out as long as they can. Once he presents his findings it's over and yes, he can make a recommendation for impeachment but the surveillance would likely end at that point.

I also think they want to present the findings either right before mid-terms or, God help us, in two years.

Actually now that I think of it, I doubt he presents any findings before the mid-terms. They wait to see how the mid-terms pan out and if the Dems take over one or both houses they likely release the findings at that point. If not, they wait and release it in Oct 2020.

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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The word "contractors" fits in that last redacted spot.

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But this does, you can see at least six figures was the amount of queries, that's a lot, and two digits on targeted offices

Cutouts fits Contractors is too many letters

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I agree. I was trying to eyeball it with a ruler -- you possess computer skills that leave me in the dust.

MS Word

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This still has to be laying in the shadows, and still gives me pause on Mueller's trajectory, when all evidense I'm privy to says the opposite.

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The word "contractors" fits in that last redacted spot.

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But this does, you can see at least six figures was the amount of queries, that's a lot, and two digits on targeted offices

Cutouts fits Contractors is too many letters

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I agree. I was trying to eyeball it with a ruler -- you possess computer skills that leave me in the dust.

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Both of you are pretty impressive. You both are tracking this stuff like pros. drcrinum can cite page numbers of this thread for review and referrals. Must be indexing the information on spreadsheet or something but drcrinum is keeping track. Roscoe is the document index-er and preserver. Roscoe can shoot out relevant documents in an instant! haha Like I said, Impressive, both of you.

There will come the day when comprehensive books will be written about all of this. Maybe even one or both of you will take part in one?

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Between you and Prosperdick, why doesn't Meuller just throw caution to the wind, and present his findings for impeachment?

I say that a because it sounds like he's played his ace. It doesn't sound like he's finished, or can't recover, but it does sound like he needs to make his move, as the longer this goes on, the worse it gets for his team.

Am I out in left field?

my 2 cents.

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Personally I think they are hoping all the surveillance turns up something they can use to inflict as much damage to Trump as possible, so its in their best interest to draw it out as long as they can. Once he presents his findings it's over and yes, he can make a recommendation for impeachment but the surveillance would likely end at that point.

I also think they want to present the findings either right before mid-terms or, God help us, in two years.

Actually now that I think of it, I doubt he presents any findings before the mid-terms. They wait to see how the mid-terms pan out and if the Dems take over one or both houses they likely release the findings at that point. If not, they wait and release it in Oct 2020.

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I think the worm is turning on Mueller. He was always in a race with IG Horowitz, although Mueller might not have been aware of it at first. The sh**-show that was the FBI's Trump/Russia collusion investigation is about to have its creators exposed as delusional zealots with animus blinders on.

And so far, Mueller has had his wings singed pretty severely in actual court proceedings, you know the job he is supposed to be doing, as opposed to playing 007.

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Seems highly likely to me that their waiving service and appearing is primarily to gum up the works for Mueller.

Does anyone have screenshots of the deleted tweets?

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(off the record, I think a Republican leaning PAC is funding the defense to hire Reed Smith (huge law firm) to hamstring Mueller -- which is working).

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Seems highly likely to me that their waiving service and appearing is primarily to gum up the works for Mueller.

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Probably a FISA warrant issued for someone associated with that law firm by now.

I'm only half kidding.

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It is not certain how many days the committee has given the DOJ to turn over the requested information or what details they are negotiating as committee officials did not discuss anything beyond the press release.

"We had a productive discussion today with officials from the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, Department of Justice, and FBI in which we raised questions related to information requested from the Intelligence Community," according to a joint statement released by Nunes and Gowdy. "The officials committed to holding further discussions of these matters, and we look forward to continuing our dialogue next week to satisfy the Committee's request."...

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So, nothing 'reportable' happened other than they agreed to talk again next week.

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(off the record, I think a Republican leaning PAC is funding the defense to hire Reed Smith (huge law firm) to hamstring Mueller -- which is working).

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Seems highly likely to me that their waiving service and appearing is primarily to gum up the works for Mueller.

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The guy that owns Concord (in Russia) is a Putin bestie and under sanctions himself. He has little left to lose from playing f***-f*** with Mueller. Also, he might just be innocent of what Mueller accused him of doing.

But either way (if it's a PAC or the actual Russian) forcing Mueller to put his cards on the table in a case in which he never expected to have to do so, is a great move. Of course, then it gives the Russians insight on how they were detected but Mueller chose an indictment instead of advisory report wherein he could make the allegations without them being tested in this manner.

Mueller screw up from the get-go. Dumb.

Delete: Roscoe beat me to it.

Avenatti has stepped into cowpatty of sinkhole proportions with that tweet.

Any news on the brilliant DNC lawsuit against the Trump Campaign ? Any discovery underway ?