Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Wonder what the date of the EC is
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Hats off to staff. Thank you.
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at first you don't succeed.
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backintexas2013 said:

at first you don't succeed.
Hopefully Mjolnir is coming.
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It's just Keith and a drunk posting. It's better than his unstable calling everyone racist rant.
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Don't do it. Staff gets mad if you quote a post that ends up getting deleted. Staff will drop the hammer on Keith for trolling.
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Sorry. No derail.
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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backintexas2013 said:

Wonder what the date of the EC is
We know the Nunes memo states that FBI agent Pete Strzok opened the investigation in July 2016 based on "information" about Papadapoulos, rather than the dossier. I'm assuming the EC was dated then.

We were told the Strzok traveled to London 6 days after the investigation opened on August 4th, so that would date the EC in late July and if the report is correct 6 days would date it July 29th 2016

Don't know how many days he spent in London, but the insurance policy text lines up timewise.
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So it would seem this is the insurance policy that he and McCabe discussed. People thought it was but this kind of makes it more clear.
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This is worth watching, 6 minutes. DiGenova & Dershowitz are both after Rosenstein major league.
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Bear with me I am going through texts again
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THere are so many texts and that's only a small portion of them. There are many more even some Mueller may be keeping from everyone.
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backintexas2013 said:

THere are so many texts and that's only a small portion of them. There are many more even some Mueller may be keeping from everyone.
I have 502 pages (PDF) of them
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I have what may be a stupid question so cut me some slack.

If Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are indeed talking and turning over evidence concerning illegal actions by the FBI & DOJ, would they still need security clearances to view documents involved in those illegal activities?
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
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richardag said:

I have what may be a stupid question so cut me some slack.

If Peter Strzok and Lisa Page are indeed talking and turning over evidence concerning illegal actions by the FBI & DOJ, would they still need security clearances to view documents involved in those illegal activities?
Yes and according to the letter I posted earlier they still have the clearances. According to the FBI/DOJ letter ALL agents must have clearance to remain employed.



This was in direct response to this letter

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Between 7-25 and 7-31-17 there is a lot of concern over "Moffa" and their need to keep him in the dark on certain things. I'm guessing "Moffa" is Jonathan Moffa with the DOJ. Lots of concern with him being in the loop on things.

I did find something I missed earlier. Right after the DNC, Strzok pulled all the HRC related 302's Mills & Abedin as well. They were going to have to "Scrub them" and "ones that couldn't be scrubbed should just remain pulled." They were batching together the ones they were going to turn over the Chaffetz.

So it wasn't only Flynn's that were changed that everyone was concentrating on, So were the 302's surrounding HRC and crew. Sounds like this is common practice. First I thought they meant redacting, but they mentioned a distinct difference in "redacting" and being "scrubbed".

According to the timeline when Page texted Strzok on 8-11-16 He NEEDED to pull the 302's before he left. This was just after she asked him where he was and he replied "In Jim's SCIF"

If anyone wants this archive for themselves here it is. It has some emails as well as all the Text messages to date. It's 70+ MB 502 pages

https://ia801508.us.archive.org/8/items/StrzokPageTexts/FBI-texts.pdf
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Dumb question - I've become acronym blind - what is the "EC"?

thanks
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drcrinum said:


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/10/devin-nunes-delivers-24-hour-ultimatum-wray-and-rosenstein-deliver-ec-origination-documents-or-impeachment-vote/


Nunes has given a deadline. Give us the unredacted EC (origination document initiating investigation of Trump Russia collusion) by tomorrow night or we will initiate contempt and impeach actions against Wray/Rosenstein.

I think this is what EC is referring to.
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Adam Ag 98 said:

Dumb question - I've become acronym blind - what is the "EC"?
"EC" stands for Electronic Communication. I don't believe it's a specific FBI document per se ... more like an acronym for an email.
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Alright, big idea here!

In addition to PFO's idea to end everything by naming Ted Cruz as VP, instead of Pence, why don't we have Mueller/Weissman concoct a way to raid Lisa Barsoomian's legal records. With all the clients she's represented that likely have intimate knowledge of the entire fiasco, we'll have our answers.

Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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Senor Cardgage said:

drcrinum said:


https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/04/10/devin-nunes-delivers-24-hour-ultimatum-wray-and-rosenstein-deliver-ec-origination-documents-or-impeachment-vote/


Nunes has given a deadline. Give us the unredacted EC (origination document initiating investigation of Trump Russia collusion) by tomorrow night or we will initiate contempt and impeach actions against Wray/Rosenstein.

I think this is what EC is referring to.
In this case it's an electronically generated Memo

EC = Electronic Communication
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I wonder if last nights sock attacker got the perma ban or just a few days.
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Major Garrett with the dramatic pause and tone..... Emmy winner

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The true believer leftists I know think that this raid was THE silver bullet and that Trump really will be gone from office by the end of 2018. That sort of true believer is a strange animal. I guess mueller and his crew are cut from that fabric.
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RoscoePColtrane said:


Oh shocking. Like we didn't all see that coming.

Even more proof that this is all Mueller's doing and his way to getting access to material he never could have legally obtained.
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Interesting because we have heard Mueller had absolutely nothing to do with the warrant.

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RoscoePColtrane said:


Glad to see the lamestream media is getting caught up to what the rest of us have known for several days now.


But while you're here, Roscoe. Have a question for you?

Would the EC have come from Brennan? That seems more likely than Strzok was the author. Or did I misunderstand?
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backintexas2013 said:

Interesting because we have heard Mueller had absolutely nothing to do with the warrant.


Mueller referred this to SDNY; it's a way to distance himself from the raid on Cohen. His finger prints are all over this.
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Message is being sent to all outsiders to DC politics: we will destroy you if you don't play ball.
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As I understand it, it was written by Strzok, I've seen numerous reports stating the same and I think it's discussed in the Texts between 7-23 and 7-26-16 and they refer to running it up to "Penn & 15th" for final approval.

Guess what's on the Corner of Penn & 15th?

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"Here, look at this for me. It's plausible outside my scope of charge, but we think/hope you will find information in your search that you can give to us that we have no pretext to seize ourselves."
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Some are scared of Trump being a dictator that they haven't stopped to consider that the machine is our dictator. The machine is not some benevolent overlord looking out for our best interests and implementing the will of the people. It's actively subverting it.
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akm91 said:

backintexas2013 said:

Interesting because we have heard Mueller had absolutely nothing to do with the warrant.


Mueller referred this to SDNY; it's a way to distance himself from the raid on Cohen. His finger prints are all over this.
To borrow a phrase from Joe Biden, the raid on the President's long term personal attorney is a "big f***ing deal."

Something so outrageous that even Mueller couldn't stomach it. He couldn't predict the blow-back. Would the ACLU be calling for his ouster? (Turns out they are more partisan than concerned about Constitutional rights but he couldn't be sure until now.)

So, he made Rosenstein the heat sink. It's a fig leaf of course but one that is apparently effective.
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