AggieJoji said:

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Court documents show that Gates was dealing with a Russian spy in 2016 and knew that he worked for the GRU.

http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-tells-court-paul-manafort-partner-rick-gates-knew-they-were-dealing-ex-862897

Also Guccifer had an IP trail left on one of his connections that shows the data went through the GRU (Russian spy agency HQ).

https://www.thedailybeast.com/exclusive-lone-dnc-hacker-guccifer-20-slipped-up-and-revealed-he-was-a-russian-intelligence-officer

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Gucifer 2.0 is a red herring, nothing reliable or even good was sourced from him. Anything that is edited or disputable out there is invariably from him.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/979003117709688832.html

A thread which elaborates on The Conservative Treehouse's story about there being a grand jury involved with the Clinton e-mail server investigation, finding more clues to support this assumption.

Dad gum you people! There's so many good threads to follow, all I do is read and don't have time to do anything else......and I'm retired!

Hope that is correct but just want to point out that we all thought a grand jury was looking into the Hillary email matter as well because of the number of queen for a days and immunity deals being passed out. Judge generally signs off on those when a GJ is empaneled. Yet, there wasn't one.

aggiehawg said:

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Hope that is correct but just want to point out that we all thought a grand jury was looking into the Hillary email matter as well because of the number of queen for a days and immunity deals being passed out. Judge generally signs off on those when a GJ is empaneled. Yet, there wasn't one.

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I think when Huckabee got caught talking out of turn and let Cody Hiland's name slip a while back, and then forced Sessions hand to go on the record that he had hired an Attorney outside the beltway to work with Horowitz, it became more obvious that something was going on, because you had twenty something members of congress crying for a second special prosecutor, all of a sudden go radio silent pretty much, something big is brewing to settle the pitchforks and torches at the gates.

NYT is breaking a story citing sources familiar that Dowd raised the question of pardoning Manafort and Flynn last year.


Talk about a desperate swing to try and start a new narrative Geez

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/politics/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-john-dowd.html

Very good point. They have gone silent, and I never really noticed it.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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NYT is breaking a story citing sources familiar that Dowd raised the question of pardoning Manafort and Flynn last year.


Talk about a desperate swing to try and start a new narrative Geez

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I assume that discussion took place. It would be stupid not to have some discussion on it. Why is this even news?

backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you mean ex Russian spy and former intelligence officer?

Maybe it wasn't an intentional mistake but it should be cleared up

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Actually no. According to the FBI, he was an Active intelligence officer at the time. He had claimed he was a former, but in reality he was not.

drcrinum said:

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AggieJoji said:

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Court documents show that Gates was dealing with a Russian spy in 2016 and knew that he worked for the GRU.

http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-tells-court-paul-manafort-partner-rick-gates-knew-they-were-dealing-ex-862897

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We've had posts about Zwaan before. This all goes back to the Ukraine, and if anything, it leads to Podesta & the Clinton Foundation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5413431/Lawyer-oligarchs-son-Mueller-guilty-plea.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966121512825585664.html?refreshed=yes

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/967128176878084098.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/

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This isnt about Zwaan, its about Konstantin Kilimnik.

AggieJoji said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you mean ex Russian spy and former intelligence officer?

Maybe it wasn't an intentional mistake but it should be cleared up

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Actually no. According to the FBI, he was an Active intelligence officer at the time. He had claimed he was a former, but in reality he was not.

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Link that he was an active intelligence officer.

Be on the lookout for a John Solomon or Sara Carter story today.

backintexas2013 said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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NYT is breaking a story citing sources familiar that Dowd raised the question of pardoning Manafort and Flynn last year.


Talk about a desperate swing to try and start a new narrative Geez

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I assume that discussion took place. It would be stupid not to have some discussion on it. Why is this even news?

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Stormy is starting to flop, no pun intended, Russia Russia Russia is dead on the vine, this pivot tries to resurrect some sort of obstruction narrative is my take on their motivation. The way the article is written, it's trying to say he was trying to manipulate the level of cooperation with Mueller.

God I hate the tick tock bs.

RoscoePColtrane said:

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NYT is breaking a story citing sources familiar that Dowd raised the question of pardoning Manafort and Flynn last year.


Talk about a desperate swing to try and start a new narrative Geez

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/28/us/politics/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-john-dowd.html

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There goes Trump again. Considering excising his rights as POTUS

backintexas2013 said:

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God I hate the tick tock bs.

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I know. He shouldn't say "tick tock" but he is really just saying a new story is breaking.

backintexas2013 said:

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AggieJoji said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you mean ex Russian spy and former intelligence officer?

Maybe it wasn't an intentional mistake but it should be cleared up

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Actually no. According to the FBI, he was an Active intelligence officer at the time. He had claimed he was a former, but in reality he was not.

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Link that he was an active intelligence officer.

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He's chasing another piece of garbage article by WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/28/mueller-just-drew-the-most-direct-line-to-date-between-the-trump-campaign-and-russia/?utm_term=.e47bc9548500

RoscoePColtrane said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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AggieJoji said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you mean ex Russian spy and former intelligence officer?

Maybe it wasn't an intentional mistake but it should be cleared up

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Actually no. According to the FBI, he was an Active intelligence officer at the time. He had claimed he was a former, but in reality he was not.

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Link that he was an active intelligence officer.

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He's chasing another piece of garbage article by WaPo

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/03/28/mueller-just-drew-the-most-direct-line-to-date-between-the-trump-campaign-and-russia/?utm_term=.e47bc9548500

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"That line is drawn in a new court filing related to the upcoming sentencing of London attorney Alex van der Zwaan. Van der Zwaan has pleaded guilty to lying about his contacts with deputy Trump campaign manager Rick Gates and a person identified in the document only as "Person A." Person A appears to be a former Ukraine-based aide to Gates and former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort named Konstantin Kilimnik."

Is that it? Wow ...

Still not sure where it says he was a current spy but not shocked.

Trump will be walked out in hand cuffs soon

backintexas2013 said:

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Still not sure where it says he was a current spy but not shocked.

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This part is a reach

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The new van der Zwaan filing doesn't shed a whole bunch of new light on that, but it does suggest that Mueller views Kilimnik as a possible link between the Trump campaign and Russia, and that he believes Kilimnik hasn't been forthcoming about his ties to Russian intelligence. We also know that Manafort had been in contact with Kilimnik during the 2016 campaign, meeting him at least twice and asking him to provide private briefings about the 2016 election to Oleg Deripaska, a Russian oligarch who is closely tied to Vladimir Putin.

Whether that's pertinent to the broader collusion investigation is something we'll have to wait to find out. There is so much Mueller knows that we simply don't; this could be the tip of an iceberg or an extraneous fact. But those six words do seem at least a little conspicuous.

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Sounds Like a Russian version of Steele

The Mockingbird Media is kicking ashes in hope of finding an ember...

First question in briefing: Are any pardons on the table for the Russia probe

Second question: Stormy!

GCP12 said:

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First question in briefing: Are any pardons on the table for the Russia probe

Second question: Stormy!

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AggieJoji said:

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backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you mean ex Russian spy and former intelligence officer?

Maybe it wasn't an intentional mistake but it should be cleared up

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Actually no. According to the FBI,he was an Active intelligence officer at the time. He had claimed he was a former, but in reality he was not.

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I think I've spotted the credibility problem.

drcrinum said:

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AggieJoji said:

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Court documents show that Gates was dealing with a Russian spy in 2016 and knew that he worked for the GRU.

http://www.newsweek.com/mueller-tells-court-paul-manafort-partner-rick-gates-knew-they-were-dealing-ex-862897

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We've had posts about Zwaan before. This all goes back to the Ukraine, and if anything, it leads to Podesta & the Clinton Foundation.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5413431/Lawyer-oligarchs-son-Mueller-guilty-plea.html

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/966121512825585664.html?refreshed=yes

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/967128176878084098.html

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/03/paul-manafort-american-hustler/550925/

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Everything in this sorry charade of an investigation leads back to the Clintons and Obama.

backintexas2013 said:

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Still not sure where it says he was a current spy but not shocked.

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No such thing as a former Russian spy.

Well tell CNN because they say former intelligence agent but I guess they are wrong And you are right.

Rapier108 said:

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You can always tell when the latest talking points have been sent out, because the same three libs show up here to try to scream "GOTCHA!"

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Yep. Wonder if it's a website or they are on some lib email service.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/28/doj-inspector-general-reviews-alleged-fisa-abuses-by-doj-fbi.html

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Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz announced Wednesday he will review potential Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) abuses by both the Justice Department and the FBI, following requests from Congress and Attorney General Jeff Sessions.

The Office of the Inspector General released a statement Wednesday outlining the initiation of a review.

"The OIG will initiate a review that will examine the Justice Department's and the Federal Bureau of Investigation's compliance with legal requirements, and with applicable DOJ and FBI policies and procedures, in applications filed with the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) relating to a certain U.S. person," the statement obtained by Fox News read. "As part of this examination, the OIG also will review information that was known to the DOJ and the FBI at the time the applications were filed from or about an alleged FBI confidential source."

The OIG statement added that Horowitz will also "review the DOJ's and FBI's relationship and communications with the alleged source as they relate to the FISC applications."

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Easy to understand why the release of the report keeps getting pushed back.

backintexas2013 said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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NYT is breaking a story citing sources familiar that Dowd raised the question of pardoning Manafort and Flynn last year.


Talk about a desperate swing to try and start a new narrative Geez

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I assume that discussion took place. It would be stupid not to have some discussion on it. Why is this even news?

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It isn't. Its FakeNews(tm)

Rapier108 said:

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You can always tell when the latest talking points have been sent out, because the same three libs show up here to try to scream "GOTCHA Boom!"

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FIFY