That gets a little dramatic with Trump declaring an emergency in the way envisioned. Would have to be on solid grounds. And we all know what that means, some type of horrific attack.

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That gets a little dramatic with Trump declaring an emergency in the way envisioned. Would have to be on solid grounds. And we all know what that means, some type of horrific attack.

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Yes, but wouldn't there be a compelling argument to be made that to avoid Presidential prerogative here, all Congress had to do was pass an actual budget - rather than an omnibus spending bill? If Congress felt it so important to spend money exactly as allocated, all they have to do is pass regular spending bills. The consequence of NOT doing their job is that the President is "forced" to do it for them.

Did Obama not do a bunch of this stuff?

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That gets a little dramatic with Trump declaring an emergency in the way envisioned. Would have to be on solid grounds. And we all know what that means, some type of horrific attack.

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Yes, but wouldn't there be a compelling argument to be made that to avoid Presidential prerogative here, all Congress had to do was pass an actual budget - rather than an omnibus spending bill? If Congress felt it so important to spend money exactly as allocated, all they have to do is pass regular spending bills. The consequence of NOT doing their job is that the President is "forced" to do it for them.

Did Obama not do a bunch of this stuff?

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He did it for EIGHT years, that's not an exaggeration.

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That gets a little dramatic with Trump declaring an emergency in the way envisioned. Would have to be on solid grounds. And we all know what that means, some type of horrific attack.

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Yes, but wouldn't there be a compelling argument to be made that to avoid Presidential prerogative here, all Congress had to do was pass an actual budget - rather than an omnibus spending bill? If Congress felt it so important to spend money exactly as allocated, all they have to do is pass regular spending bills. The consequence of NOT doing their job is that the President is "forced" to do it for them.

Did Obama not do a bunch of this stuff?

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Yeah but Obama had a compliant press, Trump does not. I can hear the tortured cries of "Constitutional crisis!!" now.

Do people that vote for them realize how slimy, corrupt, and is unethical the Dems are? Nasty insidious politicians. Ends justifies the means. Anything they believe they can get away with, they do, and they rationalize it as justified and even ethical based on their presumption that their dogma is inherently morally superior so anything that promotes it is for the greater good.

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Do people that vote for them realize how slimy, corrupt, and is unethical the Dems are? Nasty insidious politicians. Ends justifies the means. Anything they believe they can get away with, they do, and they rationalize it as justified and even ethical based on their presumption that their dogma is inherently morally superior so anything that promotes it is for the greater good.

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Ends justifies the means. Only their "ends" are not noble, nor for the betterment of all American citizens.

Orwellian. All animals are created equal but some are more equal than others.

These creatures have met their match with Trump ! Stay tuned. It's going to be quite a ride.

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"The President is disappointed that conflicts prevent Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing from joining the President's Special Counsel legal team," his lawyer, Jay Sekulow, said in a statement. "However, those conflicts do not prevent them from assisting the President in other legal matters. The President looks forward to working with them."

Just guessing, but it doesn't seem surprising there would be a conflict considering Toensing is representing an FBI whistle-blower in the Clinton Uranium-One scandal.

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If Uranium One is a conflict concerning the Mueller Investigation, that would be interesting since Mueller is rather conflicted himself over Uranium One...he was head of the FBI during the Uranium One investigation, & McCabe was the lead investigator (& Rosenstein was the US attorney).

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"The President is disappointed that conflicts prevent Joe diGenova and Victoria Toensing from joining the President's Special Counsel legal team," his lawyer, Jay Sekulow, said in a statement. "However, those conflicts do not prevent them from assisting the President in other legal matters. The President looks forward to working with them."

Just guessing, but it doesn't seem surprising there would be a conflict considering Toensing is representing an FBI whistle-blower in the Clinton Uranium-One scandal.

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If Uranium One is a conflict concerning the Mueller Investigation, that would be interesting since Mueller is rather conflicted himself over Uranium One...he was head of the FBI during the Uranium One investigation, & McCabe was the lead investigator (& Rosenstein was the US attorney).

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Toensing was a no-go-from-the-get-go, because of her representation of Campbell.

But he can consult his team, just not be legal representation right?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/25/0950-doesnt-add-up-never-has-never-will-0950-the-fbi-lied-not-steele/

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09:50 Doesn't Add Up. Never Has. Never Will. 09:50 The FBI Lied, Not Steele

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This is TCTH performing investigative research that MSM journalists should be doing.
There are 2 issues covered in this article; they are far too complicated to post or summarize...you should read it.

1) Everyone assumes Steele lied to the FBI about not speaking to the media prior to the FISA warrant application that was submitted in late October 2016 for Carter Page. TCTH argues that Steele had no motive to lie, rather the FBI did have a motive to lie because of the Isikoff article from September 21, 2016 that was used to 'verify' the dossier. Supporting details provided in the article.

2) All supporting investigative files (302s) regarding the Hillary investigation were not released per FOIA requests as assumed. Remember the S & P texts? Inflammatory info was deliberately hid. Supporting details in the article.

Hopefully this is going to be exposed in the OIG report...or in indictments.

Robyn turning up the heat on the poor unfortunate snowflake

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https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/03/25/0950-doesnt-add-up-never-has-never-will-0950-the-fbi-lied-not-steele/

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This is TCTH performing investigative research that MSM journalists should be doing.
There are 2 issues covered in this article; they are far too complicated to post or summarize...you should read it.

1) Everyone assumes Steele lied to the FBI about not speaking to the media prior to the FISA warrant application that was submitted in late October 2016 for Carter Page. TCTH argues that Steele had no motive to lie, rather the FBI did have a motive to lie because of the Isikoff article from September 21, 2016 that was used to 'verify' the dossier. Supporting details provided in the article.

2) All supporting investigative files (302s) regarding the Hillary investigation were not released per FOIA requests as assumed. Remember the S & P texts? Inflammatory info was deliberately hid. Supporting details in the article.

Hopefully this is going to be exposed in the OIG report...or in indictments.

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Scuttlebutt on the podcast this weekend is that there's a stack of 291's that will be used to clean house when the OIG report is released to the public.

Weissmann, previous records of prosecutorial misconduct under court-ordered seal, known anti-Trump bias, and still top dog on Mueller's team.

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Weissmann, previous records of prosecutorial misconduct under court-ordered seal, known anti-Trump bias, and still top dog on Mueller's team.

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What is he destryong in his current role?

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Weissmann, previous records of prosecutorial misconduct under court-ordered seal, known anti-Trump bias, and still top dog on Mueller's team.

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They keep calling this Weissmann guy a "pitbull". The more I read the more it sounds like he's just a little rule-breaking b***h.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/25/george-papadopoulos-london-emails/

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EXCLUSIVE: A London Meeting Before The Election Aroused George Papadopoulos's Suspicions

Two months before the 2016 election, George Papadopoulos received a strange request for a meeting in London, one of several the young Trump adviser would be offered and he would accept during the presidential campaign.


The meeting request, which has not been reported until now, came from Stefan K. Halper, a foreign policy expert and Cambridge professor with connections to the CIA and its British counterpart, MI6.

Halper's September 2016 outreach to Papadopoulos wasn't his only contact with Trump campaign members. The 73-year-old professor, a veteran of three Republican administrations, met with two other campaign advisers, The Daily Caller News Foundation learned.

Papadopoulos questioned Halper's motivation for contacting him, according to a source familiar with Papadopoulos' thinking. That's not just because of the randomness of the initial inquiry but because of questions Halper is said to have asked during their face-to-face meetings in London.

According to a source with knowledge of the meeting, Halper asked Papadopoulos: "George, you know about hacking the emails from Russia, right?"

Papadopoulos told Halper he didn't know anything about emails or Russian hacking, the source said and spoke on the condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the investigations into Russian meddling in the 2016 campaign. The professor did not follow up on the line of inquiry....

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Another new name has surfaced! You need to read the rest of this article; it contains loads of info. Halper also arranged to meet Carter Page in the UK in July 2016. He also arranged a meeting with another yet-to-be-identified senior Trump Campaign official in September 2016. The article includes info about Steele meeting with the former head of MI6 concerning the dossier about which I was previously unaware. There was something nefarious going on involving the UK security agencies and the Trump Russian collusion plot.

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Another new name has surfaced! You need to read the rest of this article; it contains loads of info. Halper also arranged to meet Carter Page in the UK in July 2016. He also arranged a meeting with another yet-to-be-identified senior Trump Campaign official in September 2016. The article includes info about Steele meeting with the former head of MI6 concerning the dossier about which I was previously unaware. There was something nefarious going on involving the UK security agencies and the Trump Russian collusion plot.

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We all strongly suspect what was going on ... the question is; can the plot be irrefutably proven?

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Another new name has surfaced! You need to read the rest of this article; it contains loads of info. Halper also arranged to meet Carter Page in the UK in July 2016. He also arranged a meeting with another yet-to-be-identified senior Trump Campaign official in September 2016. The article includes info about Steele meeting with the former head of MI6 concerning the dossier about which I was previously unaware. There was something nefarious going on involving the UK security agencies and the Trump Russian collusion plot.

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So Halper was an embedded cut out set in place to initiate the interaction with the foreign national. Shocker with that administration. Definitely has spook written all over it. Proving it without flipping someone will be next to impossible, unless someone made some stupid emails or texts that got snagged. If there are spooks making those kind of stupid moves and leaving a aper/data trail. the alphabet teams are really bad.

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But he can consult his team, just not be legal representation right?

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Depends on the nature of the conflict. If he has worked on that client's legal matter which is diametrically opposed to Trump's legal interests, no.

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Another new name has surfaced! You need to read the rest of this article; it contains loads of info. Halper also arranged to meet Carter Page in the UK in July 2016. He also arranged a meeting with another yet-to-be-identified senior Trump Campaign official in September 2016. The article includes info about Steele meeting with the former head of MI6 concerning the dossier about which I was previously unaware. There was something nefarious going on involving the UK security agencies and the Trump Russian collusion plot.

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We all strongly suspect what was going on ... the question is; can the plot be irrefutably proven?

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Could a FISA Section 702 Part 1 (approval to spy on an American) be done in the case where the American is trading information with an Ally - i.e. a British Citizen? i.e.e it doesn't need to be a Russian per se.

What's the rule here again?

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(b) "Agent of a foreign power" means

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(B) acts for or on behalf of a foreign power which engages in clandestine intelligence activities in the United States contrary to the interests of the United States, when the circumstances indicate that such person may engage in such activities, or when such person knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of such activities or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in such activities

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(B) pursuant to the direction of an intelligence service or network of a foreign power, knowingly engages in any other clandestine intelligence activities for or on behalf of such foreign power, which activities involve or are about to involve a violation of the criminal statutes of the United States;
(C) knowingly engages in sabotage or international terrorism, or activities that are in preparation therefor, for or on behalf of a foreign power;
(D) knowingly enters the United States under a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power or, while in the United States, knowingly assumes a false or fraudulent identity for or on behalf of a foreign power; or
(E) knowingly aids or abets any person in the conduct of activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) or knowingly conspires with any person to engage in activities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C)

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So if he knows the Professor is a informant or helper to MI6; he's now aiding or abetting a foreign power?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/50/1801

702 can't be targeted at an American Citizen, only a foreign national, however their unmasking in a 702 incidental capture is a completely different issue. If they are going to target and surveil an American citizen, they must get a warrant.

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702 can't be targeted at an American Citizen, only a foreign national, however their unmasking in a 702 incidental capture is a completely different issue. If they are going to target and surveil an American citizen, they must get a warrant.

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Or get the Brits to do it for them.

What is driving me crazy is that people keep conflating the "Hillary emails," meaning those from her homebrew server and the hack (or whatever) of the DNC emails. Papadopoulos's communications took place before the reported date of the DNC issue and referenced her specifically. This was at a time when she was still under the phony investigation including whether her server had been hacked. The FBI physically had the server.

And reportedly, Papadopoulos's information was the pretext for beginning a counter-intel investigation on Russia and the Trump campaign. But then the DNC emails were published by WikiLeaks.

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Weissmann, previous records of prosecutorial misconduct under court-ordered seal, known anti-Trump bias, and still top dog on Mueller's team.

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Only the originals that were intentionally given to him.

I see occupy Democrats has a new one out stating how nice it was to have a prez that didn't need to hire a lawyer for all 8 years.

Thought it was interesting who popped up when googling.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2011/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-claims-obama-has-spent-2-million-lega/

He WAS a lawyer and had the whole DOJ running interference for him, and the MSM controlling all the public image and information.

Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violations. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violation. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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I bet it's no coincidence that this entire Stormy Daniels thing originated with the Wall Street Journal. who is neck deep in Mockingbird type tactictics in the Russia thing. Everyone with Fusion GPS being ex WSJ hacks.

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Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violation. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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Where are you seeing that?

Yeah I just kinda took that with a grain of salt. I've seen nothing about Mueller taking that approach.

My point being with the WSJ getting the scoop on a bank transaction that Cohen made to Stormy daniels, when he was asked to turn over his bank records to investigate any possible collusion to Mueller's team, and a leak gets out to WSJ on this $130K to Clifford (Daniels), and they pursue her asking questions and she opens her mouth. And here we are today with the feeding frenzy with the MSM. Amazing that interface with the WSJ people.

Mueller has had bank records on everyone including the campaign for months, if the campaign had a shady transaction it would be 24/7. They have Cohen and a P**nstar/Stripper not sure what else they really want. It's a reach at best that any finding from the campaign went that way.

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Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violation. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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I bet it's no coincidence that this entire Stormy Daniels thing originated with the Wall Street Journal. who is neck deep in Mockingbird type tactictics in the Russia thing. Everyone with Fusion GPS being ex WSJ hacks.

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You think Cohen was wiretapped? And that information was leaked to the WSJ?

Where is Podesta lately?

Also when will get more of Page and Pete the Cheat's texts?

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Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violation. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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Where are you seeing that?

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Nap was talking about it on Fox earlier.

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Looks like Mueller is going to try to use Stormy to bring down Trump by accusing them campaign finance law violation. If true, it proves beyond any doubt that Russia, Russia, Russia, is dead and buried.

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I bet it's no coincidence that this entire Stormy Daniels thing originated with the Wall Street Journal. who is neck deep in Mockingbird type tactictics in the Russia thing. Everyone with Fusion GPS being ex WSJ hacks.

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You think Cohen was wiretapped? And that information was leaked to the WSJ?

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Or they likely had his bank transactions during the campaign/transition time frame. WSJ didn't pull it out of thin air, You can bet they were two hopping off of Carter Page on everyone in Trump Tower.

If, after 2 years of investigation and untold millions of taxpayer dollars spent on this "Russia Invesigation," all Mueller and his crew can hang on Trump is that his lawyer paying an NDA might be a violation of campaign laws - I'd fully support Trump telling him to go F*#% himself loudly and publicly.