Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Sam Nunberg tells Mueller to f*** off.

"Let him arrest me," Nunberg said. "Mr. Mueller should understand I am not going in on Friday."
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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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This idiot is hitting every show

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Let me get this straight Sam Nunberg, self proclaimed political campaign genius has now:

1. Cooperated fully with FBI investigation
2. Praises Mueller's professionalism
3. Receives subpoena
4. Gets plastered
5. Drunk dials every media outlet he can think of to let Mueller know he can F*** himself

Stone has to be proud of this performance.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Let me get this straight Sam Nunberg, self proclaimed political campaign genius has now:

1. Cooperated fully with FBI investigation
2. Praises Mueller's professionalism
3. Receives subpoena
4. Gets plastered
5. Drunk dials every media outlet he can think of to let Mueller know he can F*** himself

Stone has to be proud of this performance.


WTF is happening?

Is he trying to hide emails? Is this a sideshow to piss off Mueller? Protect his buddy Roger Stone?
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He sounds drunk in that MSNBC interview
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All in a single day of news:

-- the new WSJ article on Trump's lawyer Cohen
-- the superb New Yorker article on Steele
-- Sam Nunberg going off on national tv like Mt. Vesuvius on a coke binge
-- US Senator Thad Cochran announces his resignation effective April 1st



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Trolling, Trolling, Trolling...
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Come on you can't say the article about Steele was superb.



And the Cohen thing has nothing to do with Russia.
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Michael Horowitz's IG Report can't be issued too soon !
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oysterbayAG said:

Michael Horowitz's IG Report can't be issued too soon !


The media will ignore it. They really didn't give any coverage to Page and Pete the Cheat especially the withholding info from Congress text.
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etcetera said:

All in a single day of news:

-- the new WSJ article on Trump's lawyer Cohen
-- the superb New Yorker article on Steele
-- Sam Nunberg going off on national tv like Mt. Vesuvius on a coke binge
-- US Senator Thad Cochran announces his resignation effective April 1st




Anybody but Hillary!!!
MetoliusAg
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The New Yorker article contained some new information on British and US intelligence that I hadn't seen before. But admittedly I haven't followed the Mueller investigation as closely as some of you.
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etcetera said:

Rapier108 said:

Trolling, Trolling, Trolling...
Not at all. I just thought it was amazing that on a day when several huge news stories broke, Sam Nunberg instigated several interviews in response to the subpoena he received from Mueller's investigation team, and Sam displaced every other big story as today's headline story. Remarkable, if you step back and think about it.
Yes it is. You only show up on this thread to play your "gotcha game."
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No. I visit this thread to read the posted content and linked articles, and to occasionally ask a question related to the thread topic.
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Like Clockwork
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Like Clockwork
just flag the troll and move on.
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The walls are closing in on this clown show in the White House. It's gonna be an entertaining year.
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TXCityAggie said:

The walls are closing in on this clown show in the White House. It's gonna be an entertaining year.




It's already been entertaining. Mueller had to fire a guy then didn't release why and is keeping texts away supposedly. McCabe was walked out. Comey has been seen for an idiot and a *****. Schiff was chasing naked pictures and Fusion and Steele look stupid but good enough for the FBI.



And honestly I don't care if Trump goes down. I would like to see a bunch of people burn in all this. McCain Comey McCabe all come to mind. Same with Hillary and Huma.
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etcetera said:

Mrs. Hawg: Had you seen this reported before? I had not. It was in the New Yorker article.

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Robert Hannigan, then the head of the U.K.'s intelligence service the G.C.H.Q., had recently flown to Washington and briefed the C.I.A.'s director, John Brennan, on a stream of illicit communications between Trump's team and Moscow that had been intercepted.


You would have to know the contents of the call to know if it was illicit. Also at what point was these conversations? Pre-election vs post election? Who made these calls?
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etcetera said:

Mrs. Hawg: Had you seen this reported before? I had not. It was in the New Yorker article.

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Robert Hannigan, then the head of the U.K.'s intelligence service the G.C.H.Q., had recently flown to Washington and briefed the C.I.A.'s director, John Brennan, on a stream of illicit communications between Trump's team and Moscow that had been intercepted.

Not with that type of detail. Particularly the "illicit" adjective. But far from being condemning of Trump, that nugget raise very large questions as to why Brennan still took a hands-off approach to the dossier and Clapper as well? It also raises the question of additional FISA abuse by way of using the Brits' access to NSA meta-data for spying on US citizens without a warrant. Where the CIA and NSA are prohibited, the Brits are not.

That passage you quoted opens a new can of worms, in my view.
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It was first reported in early 2017. They just threw in the word illicit. This isn't new and no article ever says any names. It's the word "illicit" which has never been put in before that some people on the left are breaking over.
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etcetera said:

aggiehawg said:

etcetera said:

Mrs. Hawg: Had you seen this reported before? I had not. It was in the New Yorker article.

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Robert Hannigan, then the head of the U.K.'s intelligence service the G.C.H.Q., had recently flown to Washington and briefed the C.I.A.'s director, John Brennan, on a stream of illicit communications between Trump's team and Moscow that had been intercepted.

Not with that type of detail. Particularly the "illicit" adjective. But far from being condemning of Trump, that nugget raise very large questions as to why Brennan still took a hands-off approach to the dossier and Clapper as well? It also raises the question of additional FISA abuse by way of using the Brits' access to NSA meta-data for spying on US citizens without a warrant. Where the CIA and NSA are prohibited, the Brits are not.

That passage you quoted opens a new can of worms, in my view.
So it was new information to you, too.
Not really. Hannigan abruptly quit his post with no reasons given. Brennan has either denied or downplayed his interaction with Hannigan on this subject, and further took no action on the basis of that alleged report.

You do the math here. Either the meeting never happened between Hannigan and Brennan that discussed this subject or Brennan was really, really bad at his job, or Brennan had Hannigan illegally spy on US citizens and neither wants to go to jail.
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Guardian reported this in 2017. This isn't new. Before it was reported Hannigan up and quit.
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You would have to know the contents of the call to know if it was illicit. Also at what point was these conversations? Pre-election vs post election? Who made these calls?
The briefing by Hannigan was pre-election. The article implies Hannigan's visit was in August or September 2016, but the article didn't list a specific date.

As to whether the contents of the intercepted communications were "illicit", it seems highly improbable the head of British intelligence would have flown to the US to give an in-person briefing to the CIA Director unless the information was of a serious nature.
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Etc, ever heard of fake news? How about a fake illicit?
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etcetera said:

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You would have to know the contents of the call to know if it was illicit. Also at what point was these conversations? Pre-election vs post election? Who made these calls?
The briefing by Hannigan was pre-election. The article implies Hannigan's visit was in August or September 2016, but the article didn't list a specific date.

As to whether the contents of the intercepted communications were "illicit", it seems highly improbable the head of British intelligence would have flown to the US to give an in-person briefing to the CIA Director unless the information was of a serious nature.
So you are opting for the "Brennan was incompetent" angle? Can't really argue with that possibility.
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You would have to know the contents of the call to know if it was illicit. Also at what point was these conversations? Pre-election vs post election? Who made these calls?
The briefing by Hannigan was pre-election. The article implies Hannigan's visit was in August or September 2016, but the article didn't list a specific date.

As to whether the contents of the intercepted communications were "illicit", it seems highly improbable the head of British intelligence would have flown to the US to give an in-person briefing to the CIA Director unless the information was of a serious nature.


If there were transcripts of something illicit they would have leaked OR Mueller would have already indicted Trump. No way they let trump survive a year in office with actual evidence of collusion in the NSA database.
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If there were transcripts of something illicit they would have leaked OR Mueller would have already indicted Trump. No way they let trump survive a year in office with actual evidence of collusion in the NSA database.
Not if the surveillance was illegal. Couldn't be used in a criminal court and would subject the "spies" to criminal sanctions themselves.
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aggiehawg said:

etcetera said:

aggiehawg said:

etcetera said:

Mrs. Hawg: Had you seen this reported before? I had not. It was in the New Yorker article.

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Robert Hannigan, then the head of the U.K.'s intelligence service the G.C.H.Q., had recently flown to Washington and briefed the C.I.A.'s director, John Brennan, on a stream of illicit communications between Trump's team and Moscow that had been intercepted.

Not with that type of detail. Particularly the "illicit" adjective. But far from being condemning of Trump, that nugget raise very large questions as to why Brennan still took a hands-off approach to the dossier and Clapper as well? It also raises the question of additional FISA abuse by way of using the Brits' access to NSA meta-data for spying on US citizens without a warrant. Where the CIA and NSA are prohibited, the Brits are not.

That passage you quoted opens a new can of worms, in my view.
So it was new information to you, too.
Not really. Hannigan abruptly quit his post with no reasons given. Brennan has either denied or downplayed his interaction with Hannigan on this subject, and further took no action on the basis of that alleged report.

You do the math here. Either the meeting never happened between Hannigan and Brennan that discussed this subject or Brennan was really, really bad at his job, or Brennan had Hannigan illegally spy on US citizens and neither wants to go to jail.
I remember the WaPo article that reported the British intelligence provided a packet of secret intel. The Brits stipulated that only four specified US govmt officials could read its contents. Iirc, the previous administration did take some actions on the information, including meeting with the Gang of Eight. The problem the previous administration faced was "What should we do? Go public with this? Or deal with it after the election?" Given the timing (two months before election day) and the extreme partisanship throughout the country, any action taken by the Administration was going to be met by extreme accusations of interfering in the election with intent to help their party's candidate.
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Or they wanted to keep the means and process of obtaining it off the written record to evade legal restrictions or detection.
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Looks like our resident troll got the talking points.
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I remember the WaPo article that reported the British intelligence provided a packet of secret intel. The Brits stipulated that only four specified US govmt officials could read its contents. Iirc, the previous administration did take some actions on the information, including meeting with the Gang of Eight. The problem the previous administration faced was "What should we do? Go public with this? Or deal with it after the election?" Given the timing (two months before election day) and the extreme partisanship throughout the country, any action taken by the Administration was going to be met by extreme accusations of interfering in the election with intent to help their party's candidate.
Obama certainly had no problem pronouncing Hillary innocent twice during the campaign, during an open investigation on her. He meddled in the election when he did that. And signaled to his DOJ that she should skate.

Look, it is pretty clear that everyone, including Obama and his intel folks believed she would win. And they didn't want to cast any doubt on the legitimacy of her election not with a GOP House and Senate. (Lessons learned after Bush v. Gore.)

There was a calculation made on how much to publicize Russian actions. They did it on a news day when the Access Hollywood Trump tape came out and then dropped it. Even taking the opposite stance that the American elections couldn't be compromised.

They were wrong.
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http://thehill.com/376858-australian-diplomat-whose-tip-prompted-fbis-russia-probe-has-tie-to-clintons

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Australian diplomat whose tip prompted FBI's Russia-probe has tie to Clintons

The Australian diplomat whose tip in 2016 prompted the Russia-Trump investigation previously arranged one of the largest foreign donations to Bill and Hillary Clinton's charitable efforts, documents show.

Former Australian Foreign Minister Alexander Downer's role in securing $25 million in aid from his country to help the Clinton Foundation fight AIDS is chronicled in decade-old government memos archived on the Australian foreign ministry's website....

Downer, now Australia's ambassador to London, provided the account of a conversation with Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos at a London bar in 2016 that became the official reason the FBI opened the Russia counterintelligence probe.

But lawmakers say the FBI didn't tell Congress about Downer's prior connection to the Clinton Foundation. Republicans say they are concerned the new information means nearly all of the early evidence the FBI used to justify its election-year probe of Trump came from sources supportive of the Clintons, including the controversial Steele dossier.
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