Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
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aggiehawg said:


Why don't you pick up the phone and ask him? I swear these are the times I wish someone would take a hammer to his iPhone.
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Sarge 91 said:

aggiehawg said:


Why don't you pick up the phone and ask him? I swear these are the times I wish someone would take a hammer to his iPhone.
And here's proof it is working perfectly
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Sarge 91 said:

aggiehawg said:


Why don't you pick up the phone and ask him? I swear these are the times I wish someone would take a hammer to his iPhone.
And here's proof it is working perfectly
Point taken. I wrote that before reading the rest of the thread that included the 648DDDD Chess analysis. My bad.
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Think about it. The last time he ridiculed Sessions on Twitter, Sessions got busy going after leakers, MS 13, Sanctuary cities, Opiates, etc etc

Geppetto plays the game well
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Think about it. The last time he ridiculed Sessions on Twitter, Sessions got busy going after leakers, MS 13, Sanctuary cities, Opiates, etc etc

Geppetto plays the game well
No way Trump's tweet was choreographed 4D chess collusion with Sessions IMO ... just Trump being Trump and venting again. Yes, it may prod Sessions into doing more (he should)... but the long game is replacing Sessions (the sooner the better) and who worth a sh** would want that job and take the risk of another POTUS Twitter rant?
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benchmark said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

Think about it. The last time he ridiculed Sessions on Twitter, Sessions got busy going after leakers, MS 13, Sanctuary cities, Opiates, etc etc

Geppetto plays the game well
No way Trump's tweet was choreographed 4D chess collusion with Sessions IMO ... just Trump being Trump and venting again. Yes, it may prod Sessions into doing more (he should)... but the long game is replacing Sessions (the sooner the better) and who worth a sh** would want that job and take the risk of another POTUS Twitter rant?
I just disagree, it's an Eephus
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thats just not true.

Sessions has been great on immigration since day 1.

it makes zero sense to make your AG look like a moron as s "4D chess" move.

its unnecessary and ineffective.


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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/969031629111902208.html

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1) Everyone must remember that an indictment without a conviction is meaningless pap. If all aren't served, indicted pretty much simultaneously, the likelihood of getting the big names drops precipitously.

2) Moreover, like it or not, even these criminal activities are political.

3) In other words, Trump MUST avoid the perception that he is "going after" political opponents. (I know, it's ok for DemoKKKrats to do this---but that's not an argument).

4) Had Trump come out on Jan 21, 2017 and sent Sessions after Cankles, he would have been impeached by now.

5) It is a very slow and methodical process. Moreover, it involves a phenomenal amount of deception. Sessions must be (and is) deeply involved, but cannot appear to be involved at all. (I keep sayin' it and sayin' it---ain't I been sayin' it? Who approves Mulehead's budgets?)

6) Trump has therefore from the outset had to pretend there is a schism between the Oval Office and the DOJ. "Ol Jeff just isn't doing his job. What's wrong? Why is he letting mean old Mulehead attack me?"

7) Up until now who has even heard of the Inspector General or his report?

8) Now with one tweet Trump not only MAKES the fake news cover the IG but makes the IG sympathetic to them. They rush to his defense. And by extension they rush to Sessions defense.

9) Trump has them. When the IG report drops, this upstanding guy who Trump attacked will pounce.

10) Further, it may well be that Sessions' "announcement" of these investigations by DOJ (Remember, they include a) U1, b) Cankles emails, c) Clinton Foundation, and now d) FISA fraud) is less an announcement they are BEGINNING than that they may be near completion.

11) In just a few months, Trump has positioned Sessions to be "above politics," Horowitz to be non-partisan just doing a job & Mulehead a "witch hunter."

12) Where does fake news turn when Sessions announces indictments, Horowitz destroys Ds in his report & Mulehead clears Trump?


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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/969031629111902208.html

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1) Everyone must remember that an indictment without a conviction is meaningless pap. If all aren't served, indicted pretty much simultaneously, the likelihood of getting the big names drops precipitously.

2) Moreover, like it or not, even these criminal activities are political.

3) In other words, Trump MUST avoid the perception that he is "going after" political opponents. (I know, it's ok for DemoKKKrats to do this---but that's not an argument).

4) Had Trump come out on Jan 21, 2017 and sent Sessions after Cankles, he would have been impeached by now.

5) It is a very slow and methodical process. Moreover, it involves a phenomenal amount of deception. Sessions must be (and is) deeply involved, but cannot appear to be involved at all. (I keep sayin' it and sayin' it---ain't I been sayin' it? Who approves Mulehead's budgets?)

6) Trump has therefore from the outset had to pretend there is a schism between the Oval Office and the DOJ. "Ol Jeff just isn't doing his job. What's wrong? Why is he letting mean old Mulehead attack me?"

7) Up until now who has even heard of the Inspector General or his report?

8) Now with one tweet Trump not only MAKES the fake news cover the IG but makes the IG sympathetic to them. They rush to his defense. And by extension they rush to Sessions defense.

9) Trump has them. When the IG report drops, this upstanding guy who Trump attacked will pounce.

10) Further, it may well be that Sessions' "announcement" of these investigations by DOJ (Remember, they include a) U1, b) Cankles emails, c) Clinton Foundation, and now d) FISA fraud) is less an announcement they are BEGINNING than that they may be near completion.

11) In just a few months, Trump has positioned Sessions to be "above politics," Horowitz to be non-partisan just doing a job & Mulehead a "witch hunter."

12) Where does fake news turn when Sessions announces indictments, Horowitz destroys Ds in his report & Mulehead clears Trump?



Like I said a page ago, it's an eephus



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Trump sends these obtuse tweets out on purpose to give the illusion that he's on an island and all alone fighting with everyone around him. Always appearing to be in turmoil with everyone, so when they find what he knows is there, it makes it hard for the media to say it was orchestrated by Trump when everything by appearances is just the opposite. He then gets the biggest I told you so on the planet.

Think back to the Tillerson interview on CNN when she asked about his obtuse tweets to him about negotiations in NK and he chuckled and said "my policy objective is clear and I pay no mind to Twitter. If I need something I talk directly to the POTUS I don't worry about nonsense tweets"

Tillerson spelled it out right there what the tweets are about. No one paid attention. Too busy chasing the shine objects whose sole reason is to distract.... it's an eephus
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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/28/rogue-swiss-cop-under-investigation-for-meeting-russian-lawyer-at-trump-tower.html

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Rogue Swiss cop under investigation for meeting Russian lawyer who was at Trump Tower

A Swiss cop is under investigation for meeting with a Russian lawyer at the center of the infamous Trump Tower meeting.

The cop, a money-laundering investigator, had a brief meeting with Natalia Veselnitskaya in Moscow in December 2016, sources told Fox News. That unauthorized and questionable meeting is now being probed by Swiss prosecutors, who are trying to determine whether she was trying to "turn" Swiss law enforcement or attempting to recover a client's account that was frozen in Switzerland....

Suspects in criminal cases are also afforded privacy in Switzerland and Fox New is calling the investigator "Mr. K." The Swiss Prosecutor's Office will only say that he is the subject of a criminal investigation. But sources tell Fox News he is being investigated for "corruption, abuse of power, and violating professional secrets."

He was fired from his office after traveling to Moscow in late December of 2016, against the will of his boss, and largely on the dime of the Russians.

"Mr.K." is a federal police officerone of the few in the department who speaks Russian. He has been at the center of the important Swiss cases involving Russian money laundering. Veselnitskaya has been at the epicenter of political intrigue in the United States....

Mr. K. was, reportedly, lured to Moscow by the deputy prosecutor general of Russia with the promise of a look at some confidential documents. Those documents, in the end, weren't made available. But Veselnitskaya, a high-power Russian lawyer, was and she and Mr. K met during his mysterious two-day visit to Moscow, sources say....

"What it shows is that Russia is not just disrupting the political and government process in the U.S., but they are also doing it in Switzerland. Both of these things trace back to the Magnitsky Act and it shows how much Putin hates it," said Bill Browder....

Looks similar to the deal pulled on Trump Jr & company at the Trump Tower In June 2016 -- a promise to supply 'confidential' materials as a bait-and-switch for details about the Magnitsky Act.




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9) Trump has them. When the IG report drops, this upstanding guy who Trump attacked will pounce.
Respectfully disagree. Sessions won't "pounce" ... he'll "punt." Sessions' end game is a 2nd Special Counsel and I seriously doubt he'll use hardly any DOJ resources and will instead defer mostly to a new SC. If so, this begs the question; what tactical advantage was gained by humiliating Sessions today?

Let's revisit the Feb 28 POTUS/Sessions tweet in the weeks following IG report release.
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benchmark said:

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9) Trump has them. When the IG report drops, this upstanding guy who Trump attacked will pounce.
Respectfully disagree. Sessions won't "pounce" ... he'll "punt." Sessions' end game is a 2nd Special Counsel and I seriously doubt he'll use hardly any DOJ resources and will instead defer mostly to a new SC. If so, this begs the question; what tactical advantage was gained by humiliating Sessions today?

Let's revisit the Feb 28 POTUS/Sessions tweet in the weeks following IG report release.

Is it possible that Sessions tries to punt to the military? Claims the DOJ can't investigate/try itself without conflict....
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I'd be super surprised if the military gets involved in this.
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ScottH_01 said:

I'd be super surprised if the military gets involved in this.
Speculation of military tribunals already in place. I also heard there was a WV prison being prepped. Anybody confirm?
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Anyone who thinks this is going to be a cakewalk regarding prosecuting these criminals, forget it. This is a major scandal of epic proportions. There are 4 different investigations already ongoing: 1) Uranium One; 2) Hillary's e-mail server and the classified documents; 3) The Clinton Foundation with its pay for play and money laundering; and 4) FISA fraud. (And don't overlook the fact that the Awan Brothers prosecution is looming, and the investigation of Operation Cassandra has been re-opened.) Large numbers of suspects and witnesses are involved...hundreds and hundreds of people. And lets not forget, the potential players include 2 former Presidents, a Presidential candidate, 2 former Attorney Generals and an Acting Attorney General, former Cabinet Members, the DNC, a humongous law firm, etc., etc. You can likely expect that the low hanging fruit will plead when indicted, but when you approach the upper tier of these criminals, there is going to be massive resistance in the courtroom that is well financed, well represented, and will have the backing of the MSM and many Leftist organizations. It ain't going to be pretty, and there will be massive protests and riots (don't forget Zero's 30,000 fanatics who belong to Organizing for Action (OFA) and have a $40 million war chest). This is going to easily take 2-3 years just to corral the minor league players. That is why several SCs are needed, because it will still be going on into Trump's second term, assuming he won re-election; that is why there should be a SC or two to cover the possibility Trump would lose in 2020.

I am concerned about jury trials for the bigwigs. They would be 4 ring circuses. OJ's trial would be a game of peewee marbles in comparison. How could juries even be seated for the Clintons or Zero? Just indict them and freeze their holdings...and eventually have Trump pardon them. They would never recover from the humiliation.


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benchmark said:

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9) Trump has them. When the IG report drops, this upstanding guy who Trump attacked will pounce.
Respectfully disagree. Sessions won't "pounce" ... he'll "punt." Sessions' end game is a 2nd Special Counsel and I seriously doubt he'll use hardly any DOJ resources and will instead defer mostly to a new SC. If so, this begs the question; what tactical advantage was gained by humiliating Sessions today?

Let's revisit the Feb 28 POTUS/Sessions tweet in the weeks following IG report release.
And when that time comes a lot of you are going to have a better understanding of the difference in a Special Counsel and a Special Prosecutor. There will be no need for a Special Counsel, the leg work will have already been done. A Special Prosecutor will take them to the Grand Jury and get to work. Then plea deals will be made, there will be very few full trials.

And as I have said before, anyone that thinks Hillary or Obama will ever see a courtroom is going to be sorely disappointed. And them bringing down the Clinton foundation and all it's parts, financially ruining the Clintons will be okay by me. As long if it's on record what they did, and shut them the hell up forever, including that entitled little snot of a daughter as well. And with the foundation all those elite million/billionaires that filtered money through them, and propped up their own 501C's that didn't bother to verify that the CF 501C paperwork was in place and properly configured, and all those back taxes start having to be collected, from every entity that used them for a tax shelter for years, those billions will pay for all of this. There will be no bankruptcies to hide from all that fallout.
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And Gowdy could be that special prosecutor.

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1) Uranium One
2) Hillary's e-mail server and the classified documents
3) The Clinton Foundation with its pay for play and money laundering
4) FISA fraud
5) Operation Cassandra
6) Fast & Furious
7) Billion dollar cash transfers to Iran in the dead of night

"We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us".
Barack Hussein Obama-- 2/23/2018

Technically, he is probably correct.
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Or that was covered by the media.
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Pretty easy when they are shameless.
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10. Ron hosko, FBI former assistant directory felt that the case called for the resources of the FBI counterintelligence division and public corruption unit.
Guess who was the FBI's Deputy assistant director of counterintelligence unit at that time?
Sit down... Peter Strzok.
So this guy interviews Hillary, is involved with her exoneration letter, assists with the Steele dossier and frame up of Trump (before and after the election), and also was involved with the Awan investigation. Oh yeah, and he had time to send thousands of texts to Page (while supposedly sleeping with her...which I still doubt).

My question...when did this guy sleep?

Of course my real question is how on earth isn't this a YUGE story in the media. It truly boggles the mind.
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boulderaggie said:

ScottH_01 said:

I'd be super surprised if the military gets involved in this.
Speculation of military tribunals already in place. I also heard there was a WV prison being prepped. Anybody confirm?
What? They already filled up Gitmo? This is bigger than I thought!
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stetson said:

1) Uranium One
2) Hillary's e-mail server and the classified documents
3) The Clinton Foundation with its pay for play and money laundering
4) FISA fraud
5) Operation Cassandra
6) Fast & Furious
7) Billion dollar cash transfers to Iran in the dead of night

"We didn't have a scandal that embarrassed us".
Barack Hussein Obama-- 2/23/2018

Technically, he is probably correct.
Liberals live in an alternate reality, with alternate facts and MSM propaganda, where those thing are not scandals. Unsubstantiated Trump collusion, OTOH, that's a scandal that will reside in their minds for an eternity.
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BREAKING: DOJ Crooks Refuse Request to Hand Over Transcripts from FISA Court Hearings on Carter Page (VIDEO)



My take: The DOJ doesn't want to give anything to Congress where it will end up being leaked to the media. Stall until the OIG Report is released and then start filing indictments.

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Hold Jeff Sessions in contempt.
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http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/01/reunited-and-it-feels-so-swampy-obamas-three-muses-reappear-in-muellers-trump-investigation/


President Barack Obama meets with, from left: Kathryn Ruemmler, Counsel to the President; Lisa Monaco, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; and National Security Advisor Susan E. Rice in the Oval Office, Jan. 7, 2014. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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This triumvirate of cover-up experts is central to the Obama White House arm of the conspiracy to surveil the Trump campaign, the phony FISA warrant, "unmaskings" of Americans in the Trump campaign and denials of information to the incoming president of the United States. Who are they?

Interesting read. Several names coming back into focus. A refresher on who they were, how they are intertwined and with whom, and what roles they are now playing in the developing saga.
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drcrinum said:

http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/01/reunited-and-it-feels-so-swampy-obamas-three-muses-reappear-in-muellers-trump-investigation/


President Barack Obama meets with, from left: Kathryn Ruemmler, Counsel to the President; Lisa Monaco, Assistant to the President for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism; and National Security Advisor Susan E. Rice in the Oval Office, Jan. 7, 2014. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)

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This triumvirate of cover-up experts is central to the Obama White House arm of the conspiracy to surveil the Trump campaign, the phony FISA warrant, "unmaskings" of Americans in the Trump campaign and denials of information to the incoming president of the United States. Who are they?

Interesting read. Several names coming back into focus. A refresher on who they were, how they are intertwined and with whom, and what roles they are now playing in the developing saga.

A lot of "mansplaining" going on in that picture. After all, he could do there jobs better than they could as he often said. Just look at their faces. . .
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For those of you who follow Q, I hope he/she/they are right on this one.
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Now Susan Rice is in the crosshairs of congressional investigators who want to know what they were talking about that day, and guess who's coming to defendher? None other than her fellow muse Kathryn Ruemmler.
Knew I recognized her name. She should be conflicted out from representing Rice, as she's likely a witness.
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Now Susan Rice is in the crosshairs of congressional investigators who want to know what they were talking about that day, and guess who's coming to defendher? None other than her fellow muse Kathryn Ruemmler.
Knew I recognized her name. She should be conflicted out from representing Rice, as she's likely a witness.
Didn't stop Miller being present at Clinton's interview.
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BREAKING: DOJ Crooks Refuse Request to Hand Over Transcripts from FISA Court Hearings on Carter Page (VIDEO)



My take: The DOJ doesn't want to give anything to Congress where it will end up being leaked to the media. Stall until the OIG Report is released and then start filing indictments.



That's big news.
Hillary paid for warrant to spy on Trump.
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akm91 said:

aggiehawg said:

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Now Susan Rice is in the crosshairs of congressional investigators who want to know what they were talking about that day, and guess who's coming to defendher? None other than her fellow muse Kathryn Ruemmler.
Knew I recognized her name. She should be conflicted out from representing Rice, as she's likely a witness.
Didn't stop Miller being present at Clinton's interview.
That's why I used the mad emoticon. Sick and tired of all of these highly unethical lawyers and the people that let them get away with it.

Since this investigation is inching closer and closer to Obama's Oval Office, it will be interesting to see if Obama attempts to assert Executive Privilege or if he tries to pressure Trump into asserting it on his behalf. As a staffer on Obama's White House Counsel's team, Ruemmler should be questioned. So should Monaco and Powers.
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drcrinum said:




For those of you who follow Q, I hope he/she/they are right on this one.

Been calling Trey Gowdy as Special Council/Prosecutor since the day he announced he wasn't running for re-election.

Hope I'm right.
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