drcrinum said:

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https://brightestyoungthings.com/articles/a-conversation-with-carter-page

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A Conversation with Carter Page

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A long interview of Carter Page from March 2017. Provides a great deal of history on his background. Comes across as very bright & knowledgeable in his realm of Political Science, Russia, and business investments. I was impressed. My unfavorable views of him in recent times relate to his performance outside his environment in the realm of the stressful political jungle. I have to apologize and eat my prior criticisms. He is no dummy.

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LOL. The FBI used him as an unwitting "spy" until they realized the Russians viewed him as a doofus, but "OOOOHHHHH.....he's a "TRUMP ADVISOR"......then he was a RUSSIAN SPY....better get a FISA warrant....

F'n joke. Corruption, lies, espionage, collusion - it was all our own government.

Burn the M'fer down.

Laughably sad that the Dems and media continue the "but Trump Russia collusion" narrative when piles of evidence are coming out that it was their side that used bogus Russian intelligence to attempt a take down of Trump.

Why is this important? Well, let's compare two scenarios side by side. See if you see a similar pattern:

1) Fusion GPS & Chris Steele, contracted by the DNC, plant a story with a major journalist, Michael Isikoff, about opposition research detrimental to the Presidential Campaign of Donald Trump. Was Isikoff paid? We are suspicious although we don't know, but the Fusion GPS bank records should provide the answer. (This article was used in the FISA warrant application for Carter Page.)

2) Alexandra Chalupa, an employee of the DNC, was working with a major journalist, Michael Isikoff, on opposition research detrimental against Presidential Candidate Donald Trump, the research pertaining to Ukrainian business dealings of Trump's Campaign Advisor and to be Manager, Paul Manafort. Was Isikoff paid? We are suspicious although we don't know.

P.S. Want to know more about Alaexandra Chalupa, the DNC & the Ukraine? We haven't talked about this but perhaps we should some day. Read this:
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2017/07/11/did_the_clinton_campaign_collude_with_ukraine.html

Thanks for that - Feels Like Rain looks like a good follow

The mental gymnastics at the end of the Slate article are hilarious. It tries to deflect from "Trump Jr spoke to a Russian about Clinton dirt" and spin it as "DNC getting dirt from the Ukraine Embassy is nothing like Trump staff working with a hostile government."

This is an Apple.....

Thanks to everyone taking time to keep us updated on the day's events..

Getting dizzy trying to keep up ... a few minutes before work and as time allows each evening.

Fascinating story unfolds almost every day.

Let it burn. The corrupt Obama administration is getting pinched.

Notice that the Dem defense to everything these days is that "those people/ that person isn't credible."

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/08/doj-national-security-division-official-david-laufman-quits/

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According to the Washington Post, David Laufman resigned effective yesterday, Wednesday February 7th...

In his former position, Laufman would have been involved and hold knowledge of the FISA "Title-1" surveillance program initiated on target Carter Page and the "incidental" Trump campaign officials. Laufman would also have close contact with former Asst. Deputy Attorney Bruce Ohr; husband of Fusion GPS employee Nellie Ohr.

Additionally, as a result of his specific responsibilities David Laufman would also have been involved in any FARA investigations of General Mike Flynn (Turkish lobbying), and/or Paul Manafort (Ukraine lobbying); and had access to FISA-702(16)(17) database use for incidental surveillance and subsequent unmasking etc.

National Security Division head John P Carlin resigned around the same time as the Carter Page FISA warrant application was submitted, October 21st, 2016. National Security Division head Mary McCord replaced Carlin, and she resigned shortly before Special Counsel Robert Mueller was assigned May 17th, 2017.

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As you can see, Laufman had his fingers in many pies, and as you can also see, two of his bosses have resigned over the past 18 months...I wonder why... And let's not forget, this was the Division (NSD) that Sally Yates 'conveniently' ruled was off limits to OIG Oversight in 2015.

So did Steele lie about his media contacts, which seems to be the issue behind Grassley's criminal referral of Steele, or did the FBI lie and misrepresent Steele to the FISA Court? Below is a thread which concludes it was the FBI who misrepresented/lied to the Court:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/961367704358842368.html

The focal issue relates to the Isikoff article used to corroborate the dossier.

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So did Steele lie about his media contacts, which seems to be the issue behind Grassley's criminal referral of Steele, or did the FBI lie and misrepresent Steele to the FISA Court? Below is a thread which concludes it was the FBI who misrepresented/lied to the Court:

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Likely both. The FBI certainly lied in the applications for the extensions, since they knew Steele had talked with many media outlets and severed ties with him for that reason well before the first extension. (If not before the original application. The timing is a little unclear whether the FBI knew the Isikoff article was sourced to Steele.)

(Have you noticed the paucity of texts between Strzok and Page discussing the dossier?? They had to have said something at some point. Wonder if Horowitz or Goodlatte are holding onto those for maximum effect?)

aggiehawg said:

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So did Steele lie about his media contacts, which seems to be the issue behind Grassley's criminal referral of Steele, or did the FBI lie and misrepresent Steele to the FISA Court? Below is a thread which concludes it was the FBI who misrepresented/lied to the Court:

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Likely both. The FBI certainly lied in the applications for the extensions, since they knew Steele had talked with many media outlets and severed ties with him for that reason well before the first extension. (If not before the original application. The timing is a little unclear whether the FBI knew the Isikoff article was sourced to Steele.)

(Have you noticed the paucity of texts between Strzok and Page discussing the dossier?? They had to have said something at some point. Wonder if Horowitz or Goodlatte are holding onto those for maximum effect?)

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I would love the kill shot of a text saying "What do we do if they find out the dossier is bogus?"

Of course CNN would claim it was taken out of context.

Don't you think Mueller pulled any text that could go back to his investigation?

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/developing-rep-nunes-may-go-supreme-court-chief-justice-get-answers-fisa-court-system/

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Developing: Rep. Nunes May Go to Supreme Court Chief Justice to Get Answers on FISA Court System

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday the committee has grappled with calling in Chief Justice John Roberts of investigation of Obama officials lying to the FISA Court to spy on Donald Trump.

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(The transcript of the Nunes - Hewitt interview is a photo in a photo of the below tweet, & I don't know how to extract it.)

https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/status/961332183418929154/photo/1


So it appears that Nunes may attempt to arrange a closed door meeting with Chief Justice Roberts over FISA abuse or may write a letter to him or the FISA Court on the issue.

hmmm...not sure if this Rep is actually really connected, but at this point none of what is insinuated here would be surprising.

backintexas2013 said:

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Don't you think Mueller pulled any text that could go back to his investigation?

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He would only have authority to cull those that occurred during the period Strzok and Page were attached to his team. Those referencing their work on the Russia investigation for nearly a year prior to his appointment would fall out of that category.

But, you might be right. Only Horowitz knows for sure what Mueller culled and what he didn't.

drcrinum said:

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http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/developing-rep-nunes-may-go-supreme-court-chief-justice-get-answers-fisa-court-system/

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Developing: Rep. Nunes May Go to Supreme Court Chief Justice to Get Answers on FISA Court System

Rep. Devin Nunes (R-CA) the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee told conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt on Wednesday the committee has grappled with calling in Chief Justice John Roberts of investigation of Obama officials lying to the FISA Court to spy on Donald Trump.

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(The transcript of the Nunes - Hewitt interview is a photo in a photo of the below tweet, & I don't know how to extract it.)

https://twitter.com/KatieBoWill/status/961332183418929154/photo/1


So it appears that Nunes may attempt to arrange a closed door meeting with Chief Justice Roberts over FISA abuse or may write a letter to him or the FISA Court on the issue.

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It's my understanding that if this happens, it takes the federal court system out of the way for prosecutions and clears the way for military courts. I'm basing this on some previous comments (from this thread or the Q thread). Anybody?

There are weeks missing so either they stopped texting which I don't believe or they haven't been released yet.

Grassley be like:

Hi DC FAM!



sup FBI:

Part Protocol, part advisory. The SCOTUS won't be in any way "conflicted out" by being made aware of an investigation into the operations of the FISA court, whether by Congress or a Special Counsel or DOJ.

If there are distinct concerns with specific judges on the FISC, alerting Chief Justice Roberts would be warranted as he could then decide whether temporary or permanent removal of that judge was prudent during the pendency of the investigation.

(This is one the reasons I felt the whole "crisis in the courts" story yesterday was overblown. While unusual, there is a process here.)

Thanks

Read Aggiehawg's reply at the top of Page 154 -- it addresses the issue of your query.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/2912732/154

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It's my understanding that if this happens, it takes the federal court system out of the way for prosecutions and clears the way for military courts. I'm basing this on some previous comments (from this thread or the Q thread). Anybody?

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As I stated yesterday, the military tribunal stuff is unrealistic, primarily from a jurisdictional aspect. Cannot see anyway that happens. (Barring every federal judge in the judiciary being taken out.)

Another article exploring the Steele-FBI issue exposed by the unredacted Grassley Memo. How did the FBI continue to push the dossier as convincing evidence when Steele lied to the FBI per the FBI claim. Sounds like a whole lotta lyin' gone on.

A resignation, 'effective immediately", means bad news.
Yup.

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Another article exploring the Steele-FBI issue exposed by the unredacted Grassley Memo. How did the FBI continue to push the dossier as convincing evidence when Steele lied to the FBI per the FBI claim. Sounds like a whole lotta lyin' gone on.

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Best case scenario ... FBI was just lazy and was unwittingly duped by Steele.

Likely scenario ... FBI had an underlying nefarious motive, knowingly used false evidence, and then repeatedly lied to the court.

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Lots of people losing their jobs seems to be one of the great unreported stories of the year so far.

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I like that it is cleaning these people out but until these people start getting indicted it is going to fall short. They will just go to work on the private side doing the same crap as before. It won't stop until they are held accountable.

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Lots of people losing their jobs seems to be one of the great unreported stories of the year so far.

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Media reaction:

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BREAKING: Another Longtime Aide To James Comey OUT at FBI
Michael Kortan, the FBI's Head of Public Affairs and longtime aide to former bureau chief James Comey, is leaving his post.

FOX News reports:

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The longtime head of public affairs at the FBI who was a confidant of former director James Comey is planning to retire, Fox News has learned.
A notice went out this week for a retirement get-together for Michael Kortan scheduled for Feb. 15. Since 2009, Kortan has served as assistant director for public affairs, an influential job that controlled media access. He also served under former director Robert Mueller, now leading the Russia probe.
It's unclear whether the retirement was long-planned or in any way precipitated by recent events. The FBI emphasized he was finishing 33 years of service.
After Comey became director in September 2013, Kortan helped facilitate regular on-the-record briefings with beat reporters, a departure from previous directors.
Kortan also was front and center during the Hillary Clinton email investigation, and especially in July 2016 coordinating media coverage and handing out copies of Comey's public statement recommending against criminal charges in the investigation into mishandling of classified information.

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Kortan joins a growing list of key officials leaving the FBI amid Inspector General Michael Horowitz's probe into the bureau's Clinton email investigation.

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Is it Bingo or Dominoes?

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Resigning immediately seems like a huge red flag. Hell Al Franken didn't even do that.

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Is Al Franken actually resigning?