Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Contempt of Congress has few true legal teeth.

Provides a s***ton of political cover for firing people, however.

Now, if evidence has been destroyed, that's a prosecutable offense.
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VaultingChemist said:

74OA said:

SIAP: Even CNN?!
Frankness from CNN. I never thought anyone there would see the light.....

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The field agents of the FBI should still retain the trust of the American people. Their honor and dignity has not been compromised; but the bureau's leadership ranks require a prompt and thorough house cleaning by the new director, Christopher Wray. The bureau's leadership has forfeited the reputation of a cherished American institution.

I wonder what the rank and file agents think about this mess......
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74OA said:

VaultingChemist said:

74OA said:

SIAP: Even CNN?!
Frankness from CNN. I never thought anyone there would see the light.....

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The field agents of the FBI should still retain the trust of the American people. Their honor and dignity has not been compromised; but the bureau's leadership ranks require a prompt and thorough house cleaning by the new director, Christopher Wray. The bureau's leadership has forfeited the reputation of a cherished American institution.

I wonder what the rank and file agents think about this mess......
I would like to think they have something to do with all of the information coming out.
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I said several days ago that Sessions needs an open door policy for the rank and file DOJ/FBI members to report what they know and personally witnessed. Give them whistleblower protection.
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Tailgate88 said:

Cant Think of a Name said:

I wonder what smoking gun is fixing to drop?

Must be pretty damning.


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Couldn't help myself -- had to post this. Click to read the decode.
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DECODE of QAnon Christmas Day messagedrcrinum said:

DECODE of QAnon Christmas Day message
Seriously, how can anyone possibly read that without a code book or a German enigma machine?.
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The Fusion GPS founders say they are proud of the research conducted by former MI6 spy Christopher Steele, even though virtually all of it is unfounded, unproven and fabricated. Simpson and Fritsch write:

Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven't since.

After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.

You can read the NYT OP Ed article by Fusion GPS's Simpson & Frisch here:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

It is noteworthy for its absence/omission of details on certain issues, and it clearly was written to deflect blame as well as to smear Trump as you would expect. For a critique of the OP Ed by the Fusion Boys, see the following:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/03/fusion-gps-tries-and-fails-to-distance-themselves-from-fbi-fisa-origin/#more-144160

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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948454489563987968.html

This is an important detailed read concerning the upcoming OIG report from IG Michael Horowitz. It tells you how the report will be distributed and acted upon, including timing.
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Where's Woodward and Bernstein? Or the next Woodward and Bernstein? This makes Watergate look like child's play. You would think that someone would want to win a Pulitzer, make their career, write a book and receive royalties from a movie.
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stetson said:

Where's Woodward and Bernstein? Or the next Woodward and Bernstein? This makes Watergate look like child's play. You would think that someone would want to win a Pulitzer, make their career, write a book and receive royalties from a movie.
The main difference between then and now is the current acceptance of corruption by the Democratic Party. If we do it, it must be ok.
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I think Sara Carter may fill that billet. She apparently has incredible, reliable sources and I think has been the furthest in front on most of this. There's others too, but she's the one that comes to my mind.
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Bannon coming in hot.

"Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff?CMP=share_btn_link
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It will be awesome to watch the media fawn over Bannon.
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Yeah this is going to be interesting for sure. So strange of Bannon as he was pretty close to all of this. Maybe trying to get ahead of it?

Idk but Trump/Breitbart fans are in a predicament.
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Or, he's just trying to stay relevant.
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GCP12 said:

It will be awesome to watch the media fawn over Bannon.
The left has already adopted it as their #1 talking point.

Find a story about the weather, and half the comments are about Bannon. They love him now like he's Obama's heir apparent.

As for Bannon, he clearly has no idea what the definition of treason actually is.
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Sara and John Solomon have revealed a ton, they brought in the FBI informant story, with the actual informant and legal counsel, Solomon has a story working now about documented proof of the FBI shenanigans with people that are going to be going on the record in hearings. This thing may get uglier.
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that_one_guy said:

Bannon coming in hot.

"Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff?CMP=share_btn_link
Quote about Wolff:

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In its review of Wolff's book Burn Rate, Brill's Content criticized Wolff for "apparent factual errors" and said that more than a dozen of the subjects he mentioned complained that Wolff had "invented or changed quotes" that he attributed to them.
Wolff is not trustworthy.
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VaultingChemist said:

that_one_guy said:

Bannon coming in hot.

"Trump Tower meeting with Russians 'treasonous', Bannon says in explosive book"

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/03/donald-trump-russia-steve-bannon-michael-wolff?CMP=share_btn_link
Quote about Wolff:

Quote:

In its review of Wolff's book Burn Rate, Brill's Content criticized Wolff for "apparent factual errors" and said that more than a dozen of the subjects he mentioned complained that Wolff had "invented or changed quotes" that he attributed to them.
Wolff is not trustworthy.
The Guardian is an anti-Trump news outfit to put it mildly.
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Possible that Bannon is just trolling to build up this reported meeting as a smoking gun. Then, he reveals nothing and the MSM gets blue balls again.
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"more than a dozen of the subjects he mentioned complained that Wolff had "invented or changed quotes" that he attributed to them."

Was Bannon one of them? If not.....
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http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/trumps-attorneys-make-solid-case-freeing-julian-assange-legal-filing/

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President Donald Trump's attorneys made a solid case for preemptively pardoning Julian Assange in a motion to dismiss a WikiLeaks-related lawsuit against the Trump campaign...

The motion, filed on December 29, was in response to a lawsuit by two Democratic Party donors who allege that the Trump campaign and former adviser Roger Stone conspired with Russians to publish the leaked Democratic National Committee emails. The outlandish lawsuit, based largely on conspiracy theories, was orchestrated by a group called Protect Democracy which happens to be run by former attorneys from the Obama administration.

In defense of the Trump campaign, the 32-page filing by Michael A. Carvin argues that the publishing of the DNC leak passes both aspects of the Bartnicki First Amendment Test.

The first part of the case law is that a defendant may not be held liable for a disclosure of stolen information if it deals with "a matter of public concern."

Assange has never been credibly accused of publishing documents or information that was not truthful. In over ten years of releasing documents, WikiLeaks has never had to retract a single thing that they have published - unlike the mainstream media who also rely on leaks, scoops and secrets.

To counter the argument from the plaintiffs that only portions of the released emails were "newsworthy" and thus not all of it should be considered protected under the First Amendment, the lawyers for the Trump campaign asserted that "tort law analyzes newsworthiness on an aggregate basis," meaning that the entirety of the disclosure as a whole is considered protected free speech.

The second portion of the test requires that the speaker (or publisher) was not "involved" in the theft.
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"They certainly make no effort to show that the Campaign was 'involved' in the initial theft of the DNC emails, in effect conceding that the Campaign satisfies the second part of the Bartnicki First Amendment test. The dispositive question is thus whether the disclosure in this case dealt with 'newsworthy' and 'public' issues. There can be no serious doubt that it did," the filing reads.
"That ends the case: The disclosure satisfies the First Amendment test."

Given that WikiLeaks does not steal or hack the documents that are provided to them, and most rational people would agree that all of their leaks have been newsworthy, the Bartnicki First Amendment Test is not only satisfied by the Trump campaign but also by Assange and his organization.

Along with Trump's lawyers, the State Department also inadvertently presented a solid case for the US government's eight year long grand jury proceedings against Assange to come to an end.
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https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948567146279374849.html

It's a start -- there are plenty of questions to ask.
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More rumors about Assange going free. Note: The last tweet by Assange was the 'M.I.A. -- Paper Planes' tweet on December 31.
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drcrinum said:




More rumors about Assange going free. Note: The last tweet by Assange was the 'M.I.A. -- Paper Planes' tweet on December 31.
Released where and to whom?
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SpreadsheetAg said:

drcrinum said:




More rumors about Assange going free. Note: The last tweet by Assange was the 'M.I.A. -- Paper Planes' tweet on December 31.
Released where and to whom?
No clue. There is some info in this youtube, but no specifics -- all speculation.

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Interesting observation of the actual charges on might mean nothing but makes this process charge look very very thin. There's no 371 charge mentioned in this document. No mention or naming of any co-conspirator or other involvement of anyone unnamed. If General Flynn was really providing anything on anyone above him wouldn't there at least need to be a mention of a possible violation of 18 U.S. Code 371? This document just basically makes him untruthful on the record and acting alone. Hard to make any type of credible witness out of someone you just convicted of lying on the record. Key word being convicted because he really has yet to be convicted, he did however plead guilty to it. However if you dive down into it, it just appears that Mueller bankrupted the man and he just pled out to stop the legal process.

https://www.scribd.com/document/366062176/Michael-Flynn-FBI-Charge-Lying-to-Investigators















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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/01/03/ryan-rosenstein-wray-fbi-justice-322618

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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and FBI Director Chris Wray made an unannounced visit to Speaker Paul Ryan's office Wednesday as the Justice Department grapples with an increasingly hostile faction of House Republicans demanding documents related to the bureau's Russia probe.

Rosenstein was spotted entering Ryan's office, and a spokesman for the speaker confirmed that Rosenstein and Wray had requested the meeting. A second person familiar with the meeting said it was related to a document request issued over the summer by House intelligence committee chairman Devin Nunes.....

It was not immediately clear what Rosenstein and Wray sought from Ryan. But they've been increasingly at odds with Nunes over his demands to produce documents related to the Russia probe and the use of the dossier. Nunes is also leading a subset of GOP members of the intelligence committee to investigate the Justice Department, with an eye on what some Republicans in Congress have characterized as corruption and political in its top ranks.


Here is a thread with an interesting speculation on why Rosenstein & Wray spoke to Ryan and not to Nunes/House Intel Committee.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/948718714882547712.html

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...If I were Adam Schiff, Jackie Speier, or rep Sawvell I'd be scared s___less right now. The docs aren't coming to committee. They spoke to Ryan, who's on the Gang of 8, & can selectively brief others on the Gang of 8. Not the committees..Why? Why avoid the committees? Because there's reason to. Ryan was briefed on why the docs weren't coming. There had to be a damn good reason. RR's Cheshire Cat grin tells us quite a bit....The gang of 8, minus the leakers, just got briefed on criminal cases pending against committee members. I guarantee there's a deal to get the appropriate people access now. But I also guarantee the leakers are officially in legal jeopardy...
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Sara Carter just said on Hannity, that Nunez got a phone call (or Ryan) and they will be getting all the requested information before midnight.
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Also said they will get interview dates of FBI and Justice dept people they've requested to interview.
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Oh no. Wray & Rosenstein met with Paul Ryan to inform him that Trump and Pence are going to jail, and he will be sworn in as President #46 on Friday.

/liberalwetdreams
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Oh no. Wray & Rosenstein met with Paul Ryan to inform him that Trump and Pence are going to jail, and he will be sworn in as President #46 on Friday.

/liberalwetdreams
Don't forget that he will appoint Hillary as VP, and then resign so the rightful winner of the election will become President.
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I had a feeling the "Contempt" threat would move Dir. Wray. Was a bit surprised R Rosenstein (SP) joined him in meeting the deadline. Hope we know more in the next several days.
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