Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Has Cuomo always that hostile? Not that they have been hiding their bias, but that is rediculous.
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3 Toed Pete said:

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the FBI, for technical reasons, had been unable to preserve and retrieve about five months' worth of communications.

Riiight. Bull**** only liberals will believe.
As already stated, whoever has the server, will have the texts, but this kind of response was an everyday occurence under Obama. That was the first thing I thought of when I read that, right after the anger meter went into overdrive.
Yeah, the only thing surprising to me about this is that there hasn't been even more destruction of evidence. Remember how those 7 hard drives at the IRS just happened to crash within a week of a subpoena? Obama took govt corruption to a whole new level.

No kidding.

Nixon was a Boy Scout compared to Obama
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kag00 said:

Has Cuomo always that hostile? Not that they have been hiding their bias, but that is rediculous.
Matters if he's interviewing a Republican or a Democrat
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Cuomo is like every other liberal hack on CNN (Chithole News Network). He is a shrill for liberals and the D.C. Establishment.
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Not a smidgeon of corruption.

- Obama interview on National TV, with Bill O"Reilly.
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drcrinum said:


AKA Fusion GPS's current employer
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drcrinum said:



Are we talking 'palace coup' here? If so, is that treason? I honestly don't know.
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SCOOP: The text messages between Strzok and Page that were deleted, included talks about a second insurance policy that they texted about for weeks leading up to the Inauguration.
Curious, how would he know if the texts were deleted?
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Beat me to the same question. Unless... they were backed up on government server, NSA, provider?
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I don't know the process or if this is even possible, but could the IG have gone to NSA for them?
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If the IG doesn't have them, which I think they do, then the NSA would have them or could recover them. Would anyone be surprised if the text messages somehow re-appeared?
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So the OIG apparently received the missing text messages.
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So the OIG apparently received the missing text messages.
Exactly, these reports that things were deleted I still find sketchy. Where exactly is there an official statement from the DoJ or FBI saying this? Reports from a media source is just that, a report from the media, doesn't mean it's true.

According to the AP report I read, Sen Ron Johnson "heard" that these texts hardened been captured. The explanation for the gap was "misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI's collection capabilities."

It also says he fired off a letter to Wray the chief of the FBI and they have not responded.

I think some people have gotten out over their skid with this narrative. As has been stated many times, The NSA has everything, and the raw capture is an entire different issue if it has been scrubbed, I'm just not buying that.
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The "lost" messages are now hittin some MSM, it's on Drudge now via yahoo
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Do they have Comey's texts during this period?
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I haven't a clue about what "is" or what "isn't" with respect to the email issue...but could the FBI's reputation be ANY more in the toilet? Gawd...I've lost all respect for 3-letter institutions and their purported capabilities.

If there was "corruption" in our political and judicial systems...AND no consequences are forthcoming...we're phooked as a nation.
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whatthehey78 said:

I haven't a clue about what "is" or what "isn't" with respect to the email issue...but could the FBI's reputation be ANY more in the toilet? Gawd...I've lost all respect for 3-letter institutions and their purported capabilities.

If there was "corruption" in our political and judicial systems...AND no consequences are forthcoming...we're phooked as a nation.

It's going to make for great Republican commercials. Videos of Dems touting 17 intelligence agencies and then videos and bullet points of all the Dem backed perps from these agencies.
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GreyhoundDad said:

Do they have Comey's texts during this period?
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http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/370019-was-lynch-coordinating-with-comey-in-the-clinton-investigation


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Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch knew well in advance of FBI Director James Comey's 2016 press conference that he would recommend against charging Hillary Clinton, according to information turned over to the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Friday.

The revelation was included in 384 pages of text messages exchanged between FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, and it significantly diminishes the credibility of Lynch's earlier commitment to accept Comey's recommendation a commitment she made under the pretense that the two were not coordinating with each other.
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And it gets worse. Comey and Lynch reportedly knew that Clinton would never face charges even before the FBI conducted its three-hour interview with Clinton, which was supposedly meant to gather more information into her mishandling of classified information.

On July 1, 2016, as the Lynch announcement became public, Page texted Strzok:

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Page: And yeah, it's a real profile in couragw [sic], since she knows no charges will be brought.
There are other revelations within the text messages. But in the cover letter accompanying them, the FBI notified Congress that many additional text messages are missing. According to the FBI, its "technical system for retaining text messages sent and received on FBI mobile devices failed to preserve text messages for Mr. Strzok and Ms. Page from December 14, 2016 to approximately to [sic] May 17, 2017."
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The reason?
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(M)any FBI-provided Samsung 5 mobile devices did not capture or store text messages due to misconfiguration issues related to rollouts, provisioning, and software upgrades that conflicted with the FBI's collection capabilities. The result was that data that should have been automatically collected and retained for long-term storage and retrieval was not collected.
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The text messages seem to indicate that some within the FBI were making investigatory decisions based on Trump's ascendancy among the Republican field of presidential candidates. On May 4, 2016 Strzok and Page had the following text message exchange:
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Page: And holy **** Cruz just dropped out of the race. It's going to be a Clinton Trump race. Unbelievable.

Strzok: What?!?!??

Page: You heard it right my friend.

Strzok: I saw trump won, figured it would be a bitNow the pressure really starts to finish MYE

Page: It sure does. We need to talk about follow up call tomorrow.
"MYE" stands for "midyear exam" and was the FBI case name for the Clinton email investigation.
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GreyhoundDad said:

It's going to make for great Republican commercials. Videos of Dems touting 17 intelligence agencies and then videos and bullet points of all the Dem backed perps from these agencies.
I'd prefer a full House vote on releasing Nunez' memo ... and a list of those that voted 'no.'
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A number of critical events in the Trump-Russia affair occurred between December 2016 and May 2017, including:
  • Conversations between Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn and Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.
  • The completion and publication of the intelligence community assessment of Russian interference in the 2016 election.
  • The briefing in which FBI director James Comey told President-elect Donald Trump about the Trump dossier.
  • The president's inauguration.
  • The nomination and confirmation of new Justice Department leadership.
  • Flynn's interview with the FBI (conducted by Strzok).
  • Comey's assurances to Trump that he, Trump, was not under investigation.
  • A variety of revelations, mostly in the Washington Post and New York Times, about various Trump figures under investigation.
  • Attorney General Jeff Sessions' recusal from the Russia probe.
  • The firing of top Obama Justice Department holdover Sally Yates.
  • Trump's tweet alleging he was wiretapped.
  • Trump's firing of Comey.
  • And, finally, on May 17, 2017 the final day of the missing texts the appointment of Trump-Russia special prosecutor Robert Mueller.
Strzok and Page had a lot to talk about.
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-congress-seeks-answers-after-fbi-claims-texts-missing-in-trump-russia-probe/article/2646644

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Underlying all the questions is a diminished level of trust between some quarters of Congress and the FBI.

"Very suspicious," said one investigator about the news. "Hard to believe," said another.

When asked to rate his trust of the FBI on a scale from 1 to 10, the investigator quickly answered, "Zero."
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benchmark said:

GreyhoundDad said:

It's going to make for great Republican commercials. Videos of Dems touting 17 intelligence agencies and then videos and bullet points of all the Dem backed perps from these agencies.
I'd prefer a full House vote on releasing Nunez' memo ... and a list of those that voted 'no.'
I believe all House actions are recorded, including who did what to whom and when, in The Congressional Record.
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What are your thoughts on the FBI losing text messages?

How about the dossier in general? The use of it to help obtain a warrant


You seem to never address any issues.
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backintexas2013 said:

What are your thoughts on the FBI losing text messages?

How about the dossier in general? The use of it to help obtain a warrant


You seem to never address any issues.
Flag it so he gets booted.
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https://truepundit.com/fisa-abuse-memo-unveiled-exactly-memo-according-intel-insiders/

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The FISA Abuse Memo Unveiled; What Exactly Is In the Memo, According to Intel Insiders

....Here is what we now know, per intelligence gleaned form federal law enforcement sources with insider knowledge of what amounts to a plot by U.S. intelligence agencies to secure back door and illegal wiretaps of President Trump's associates:
  • Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA's Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.
  • To feign ignorance and to seemingly operate within U.S. laws, the agencies freelanced the wiretapping of Trump associates to the British spy agency GCHQ.
  • The decision to insert GCHQ as a back door to eavesdrop was sparked by the denial of two FISA Court warrant applications filed by the FBI to seek wiretaps of Trump associates.
  • GCHQ did not work from London or the UK. In fact the spy agency worked from NSA's headquarters in Fort Meade, MD with direct NSA supervision and guidance to conduct sweeping surveillance on Trump associates.
  • The illegal wiretaps were initiated months before the controversial Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.
  • The Justice Department and FBI set up the meeting at Trump Tower between Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner with controversial Russian officials to make Trump's associates appear compromised.
  • Following the Trump Tower sit down, GCHQ began digitally wiretapping Manafort, Trump Jr., and Kushner.
  • After the concocted meeting by the Deep State, the British spy agency could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because the Russian lawyer at the meeting Natalia Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.
  • By using GCHQ, the NSA and its intelligence partners had carved out a loophole to wiretap Trump without a warrant. While it is illegal for U.S. agencies to monitor phones and emails of U.S. citizens inside the United States absent a warrant, it is not illegal for British intelligence to do so. Even if the GCHQ was tapping Trump on U.S. soil at Fort Meade.
  • The wiretaps, secured through illicit scheming, have been used by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged Russian collusion in the 2016 election, even though the evidence is considered "poisoned fruit."

Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who spearheaded the Trump Tower meeting with the Trump campaign trio, was previously barred from entering the United Sates due to her alleged connections to the Russian FSB (the modern replacement of the cold-war-era KGB).

Yet mere days before the June meeting, Veselnitskaya was granted a rare visa to enter the United States from Preet Bharara, the then U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. Bharara could not be reached for comment and did not respond the a Twitter inquiry on the Russian's visa by True Pundit.

Federal law enforcement sources said Bharara was simply following the orders of Attorney General Lynch, who lobbied the State Department to issue the disavowed Russian a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa. This permitted Veselnitskaya entry into the United States for the sole purpose of entrapping Trump associates to use as fuel to commission wiretaps, federal sources said.

Veselnitskaya may have been paid as well by the U.S. government, FBI sources said. It was reported last week that Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier was paid at least $100,000 from FBI funds as well. But that came later, after the wiretapping was well underway.

The illegal eavesdropping started long before Steele's dossier. Federal sources said the wiretaps on Trump insiders began in late 2015, almost a year before the 2016 election. The targets then were Flynn and Page, sources confirmed. When no smoking gun was recovered from those initial taps, U.S. intelligence agencies moved to broaden the scope through their newly-formed alliance.

Intelligence garnered from the British eavesdropping, which again was merely a front for the NSA, was then used in August 2016 to secure a legitimate FISA warrant on Manafort, Trump Jr. and Kushner. That warrant was issued on or about September, 2016, federal sources confirm.

It was the third time the cabal of U.S. intelligence agencies sought a FISA warrant for the Trump associates and this time it was approved....

It's Thomas Paine of The True Pundit. I don't know how much of it is accurate, but he is former Military Intelligence and claims to have FBI contacts...and most of the time he's right.


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Paine is 100% legit IMHO, I follow his work closely, his appearances on podcasts are great.
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You guys better be careful. You're lighting up the Anon bat signal right now
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drcrinum said:



https://truepundit.com/fisa-abuse-memo-unveiled-exactly-memo-according-intel-insiders/

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The FISA Abuse Memo Unveiled; What Exactly Is In the Memo, According to Intel Insiders

....Here is what we now know, per intelligence gleaned form federal law enforcement sources with insider knowledge of what amounts to a plot by U.S. intelligence agencies to secure back door and illegal wiretaps of President Trump's associates:
  • Six U.S. agencies created a stealth task force, spearhead by CIA's Brennan, to run domestic surveillance on Trump associates and possibly Trump himself.
  • To feign ignorance and to seemingly operate within U.S. laws, the agencies freelanced the wiretapping of Trump associates to the British spy agency GCHQ.
  • The decision to insert GCHQ as a back door to eavesdrop was sparked by the denial of two FISA Court warrant applications filed by the FBI to seek wiretaps of Trump associates.
  • GCHQ did not work from London or the UK. In fact the spy agency worked from NSA's headquarters in Fort Meade, MD with direct NSA supervision and guidance to conduct sweeping surveillance on Trump associates.
  • The illegal wiretaps were initiated months before the controversial Trump dossier compiled by former British spy Christopher Steele.
  • The Justice Department and FBI set up the meeting at Trump Tower between Trump Jr., Manafort and Kushner with controversial Russian officials to make Trump's associates appear compromised.
  • Following the Trump Tower sit down, GCHQ began digitally wiretapping Manafort, Trump Jr., and Kushner.
  • After the concocted meeting by the Deep State, the British spy agency could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because the Russian lawyer at the meeting Natalia Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.
  • By using GCHQ, the NSA and its intelligence partners had carved out a loophole to wiretap Trump without a warrant. While it is illegal for U.S. agencies to monitor phones and emails of U.S. citizens inside the United States absent a warrant, it is not illegal for British intelligence to do so. Even if the GCHQ was tapping Trump on U.S. soil at Fort Meade.
  • The wiretaps, secured through illicit scheming, have been used by U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller's probe of alleged Russian collusion in the 2016 election, even though the evidence is considered "poisoned fruit."
Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who spearheaded the Trump Tower meeting with the Trump campaign trio, was previously barred from entering the United Sates due to her alleged connections to the Russian FSB (the modern replacement of the cold-war-era KGB).

Yet mere days before the June meeting, Veselnitskaya was granted a rare visa to enter the United States from Preet Bharara, the then U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. Bharara could not be reached for comment and did not respond the a Twitter inquiry on the Russian's visa by True Pundit.

Federal law enforcement sources said Bharara was simply following the orders of Attorney General Lynch, who lobbied the State Department to issue the disavowed Russian a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa. This permitted Veselnitskaya entry into the United States for the sole purpose of entrapping Trump associates to use as fuel to commission wiretaps, federal sources said.

Veselnitskaya may have been paid as well by the U.S. government, FBI sources said. It was reported last week that Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier was paid at least $100,000 from FBI funds as well. But that came later, after the wiretapping was well underway.

The illegal eavesdropping started long before Steele's dossier. Federal sources said the wiretaps on Trump insiders began in late 2015, almost a year before the 2016 election. The targets then were Flynn and Page, sources confirmed. When no smoking gun was recovered from those initial taps, U.S. intelligence agencies moved to broaden the scope through their newly-formed alliance.

Intelligence garnered from the British eavesdropping, which again was merely a front for the NSA, was then used in August 2016 to secure a legitimate FISA warrant on Manafort, Trump Jr. and Kushner. That warrant was issued on or about September, 2016, federal sources confirm.

It was the third time the cabal of U.S. intelligence agencies sought a FISA warrant for the Trump associates and this time it was approved....

It's Thomas Paine of The True Pundit. I don't know how much of it is accurate, but he is former Military Intelligence and claims to have FBI contacts...and most of the time he's right.



This makes so much sense.

I also remember hearing that lawyer's name: Preet. He's the guy who got fired, seemingly out of nowhere, by Trump.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/20/politics/preet-bharara-podcast-trump-firing/index.html


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"I will tell you one thing, now that it's been some months. I believe based on the information that we have on the president talking to Jim Comey relating to Michael Flynn, the information about the president talking to Jeff Sessions about the case of Joe Arpaio, and how he wanted both of those cases to go away -- that had I not been fired, and had Donald Trump continued to cultivate a direct personal relationship with me, it's my strong belief that at some point, given the history, the President of the United States would have asked me to do something inappropriate," Preet said on the first episode of his new podcast "Stay Tuned with Preet."
On Wednesday, it was announced that Bharara had been hired as a senior legal analyst at CNN.
During the podcast, Bharara gave what he called "the most detailed account" yet about the events leading up to his firing by Trump in March, which he hinges on a series of unannounced and highly unusual phone calls he received from Trump after Election Day.
Bharara added that he still doesn't know why he was fired by Trump in March. He was known as one of Wall Street's fiercest watchdogs and a widely respected prosecutor.



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Let me help you. While we don't know if what they are reporting is true at this point it hasn't been proven false either. So anyone that says this is false isn't thinking./ just using the same logic libs are using to defend the dossier.
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and OBAMA had no knowledge of this?


OBAMAGATE!
Suppose I was an idiot. Suppose I was a member of congress. But, I repeat myself.
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If factual...why no arrests or indictments? What does it take to enforce justice?
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