Are they just now figuring this stuff out? This has been presented in some fashion or another on TexAgs a couple of weeks ago.

drcrinum said:

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"The Dems always travel in packs and that means they leave a lot of footprints everywhere."

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Bwahahaha

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1052001690977689602.html

On the previous page (640), I posted the interview where Rep. Ratcliffe of Texas said that there was exculpatory evidence available to the FBI/DOJ which proved Papadopoulos did not tell the Australian Ambassador (Downer) that the Russians had dirt on Hillary. Well, Rex has a source. If true, boom!

drcrinum said:

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On the previous page (640), I posted the interview where Rep. Ratcliffe of Texas said that there was exculpatory evidence available to the FBI/DOJ which proved Papadopoulos did not tell the Australian Ambassador (Downer) that the Russians had dirt on Hillary. Well, Rex has a source. It true, boom.

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Please tell me you didn't copy/paste that from an Agatha Christie novel. ;-)

RoscoePColtrane said:

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Heh, heh, heh!

https://www.theepochtimes.com/new-evidence-directly-ties-mccabe-to-illegal-leak-about-general-flynn_2690723.html

Good read. More on McCabe possibly being the leaker on Flynn.

aggiehawg said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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Heh, heh, heh!

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Hehe is right, read the complaint! I quickly scanned and it's as bad as you'd expect.

Big fan of claiming he has no domicile and the RICO conspiracy.

He's also pro se. No domicile, pro se, and he did the RICO. He's hit the trifecta of stupid.

MASAXET said:

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aggiehawg said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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Heh, heh, heh!

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Hehe is right, read the complaint! I quickly scanned and it's as bad as you'd expect.

Big fan of claiming he has no domicile and the RICO conspiracy.

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Where can the complaint be read?

scottimus said:

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Who thinks the Mueller Probe is done, now, that Trump is all over the place with his balls?

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Trump has been spending a lot of time with Rosenstein lately in an effort for Rosey to keep his job. So who knows?

drcrinum said:

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https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/f181016.pdf

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The Department of Justice (DOJ) Office of the Inspector General (OIG) initiated this investigation upon
the receipt of certain text messages from the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) during the course of
the OIG's Review of Allegations Regarding Various Actions by the Department and the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI) in Advance of the 2016 Election (June 2018;https://www.justice.gov/file/1071991/download) (pre-election review).

The text messages indicated that a senior FBI official accepted two tickets to a professional sports game as a gift from a television news correspondent who regularly covered the FBI and DOJ, in violation of federal regulations.The OIG investigation substantiated, and the senior FBI official acknowledged, that the official accepted two tickets to a professional sports event from the TV correspondent without paying the correspondent for the tickets. The senior FBI official initially maintained to the OIG in an interview under oath that the official had paid for the tickets, but five days later admitted to the OIG that the official did not. The OIG
found that the senior FBI official lacked candor with the OIG in several respects about the tickets. In addition, the OIG found that the senior FBI official had previously accepted one ticket from the same correspondent to another professional sports event, and one ticket from a different news reporter to another sports event. Although the senior FBI official stated that the official had paid the correspondent and reporter for these tickets, the OIG found no evidence in the senior FBI official's communications with the correspondent or the reporter using FBI devices or systems to confirm that the official paid for the tickets, and the senior FBI official provided the OIG with no evidence to show that the official had paid for the tickets.

The senior FBI official's conduct violated federal regulations prohibiting federal employees from accepting gifts from prohibited sources, such as members of the media, where, for example, the source seeks official action by the employee's agency; the source does business or seeks to do business with the employee's agency; and the source has interests that may be substantially affected by the performance or nonperformance of the employee's official duties.

Criminal prosecution was declined. The senior FBI official retired from the FBI during the OIG's investigation.

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This rings so hollow when the damn AG won't follow through. I've lost all respect I had for Jeff Sessions.

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"We have profound concerns about the volume and extent of unauthorized media contacts by FBI personnel that we have uncovered during our review." - IG Horowitz

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Secolobo said:

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HTownAg98 said:

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He's also pro se. No domicile, pro se, and he did the RICO. He's hit the trifecta of stupid.

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English Please, English.

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Pro se = representing yourself in court without an attorney. It's often said that someone who goes into court pro se has a damn fool for a client.

Domicile = where you reside. It's used to establish proper venue. Page didn't list one, because he's not very bright, except that he's an owner of some companies that reside in Oklahoma. So he's trying to establish that Oklahoma is the proper venue for his suit.

RICO = Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act. Read this, it's the best explanation why Carter Page is a dumbass for bringing this suit. https://www.popehat.com/2016/06/14/lawsplainer-its-not-rico-dammit/

In theory, if Page didn't have anything to hide, couldn't he be trying to get evidence brought out through discovery?

Also, what would Page have to lose if this is complete BS? I'm guessing he would have to pay all their legal costs.

You basically have to assume he's a 100% certified fool, or that he is making a very calculated move here. There really isn't any in-between, right?

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1052310032052817920.html

Short interesting thread on the separate Obama-Clinton camps involved in Spygate.

Grassley's looking into it.

MadDog73 said:

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The penalties should be greater for DOJ officials including loss of pension.

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Papadopoulos and Flynn need to be the standard. Any DoJ official needs the same treatment + loss of pension. "Rules for the, but not for me" needs to end.

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In theory, if Page didn't have anything to hide, couldn't he be trying to get evidence brought out through discovery?

Also, what would Page have to lose if this is complete BS? I'm guessing he would have to pay all their legal costs.

You basically have to assume he's a 100% certified fool, or that he is making a very calculated move here. There really isn't any in-between, right?

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He's a 100% certified fool, and it's not even close. On the defamation claim, he's going to have to survive a summary judgment, and it's not going to be easy given that OK has a one-year statute of limitations on defamation. He may also have to endure a standing order on RICO (I'm not sure if this court has one), that says you have to go into great detail why you think you can prevail on a RICO claim.

Plus, the cherry on top is he's representing himself. Either no one would take his case and he's doing this completely on his own, or he didn't bother to talk to an attorney first.

When I heard Page was suing, I naturally assumed he had counsel doing it on his behalf. He's no Ty Clevenger who is actually a lawyer thus Page's campaign here, no matter how justified, is not gonna fly far.

Jurisdictional issues mostly because of the lack of naming his Oklahoma corporate entity as a Plaintiff, which he cannot do since he's not a lawyer. (Corporations can't file pro se.) Since he refuses to name a domicile within Oklahoma he hasn't established the diversity of citizenship and his federal question jurisdiction is dicey as well. He'll never get past a RICO hearing without learned counsel.

Have to give a little bit of credit for creativity though. I would never have thought of crafting a trade secret and economic espionage claim out of a FISA warrant. LOL.

Perkins, Coie should be able to swat this complaint away pretty quickly. Unless he gets counsel and very quickly files an amended complaint. Better yet, withdraw that complaint and have counsel file suit in DC, if Page won't claim a domicile.

Sidenote: Always thought Page was an odd duck of a guy.

aggiehawg said:

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When I heard Page was suing, I naturally assumed he had counsel doing it on his behalf. He's no Ty Clevenger who is actually a lawyer thus Page's campaign here, no matter how justified, is not gonna fly far.

Jurisdictional issues mostly because of the lack of naming his Oklahoma corporate entity as a Plaintiff, which he cannot do since he's not a lawyer. (Corporations can't file pro se.) Since he refuses to name a domicile within Oklahoma he hasn't established the diversity of citizenship and his federal question jurisdiction is dicey as well. He'll never get past a RICO hearing without learned counsel.

Have to give a little bit of credit for creativity though. I would never have thought of crafting a trade secret and economic espionage claim out of a FISA warrant. LOL.

Perkins, Coie should be able to swat this complaint away pretty quickly. Unless he gets counsel and very quickly files an amended complaint. Better yet, withdraw that complaint and have counsel file suit in DC, if Page won't claim a domicile.

Sidenote: Always thought Page was an odd duck of a guy.

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I'm not a lawyer, but my guess that said swatting will get a lot of coverage. cnn and what not will make the swatting front page, when the original suit would get zero coverage.

Carter Page is nothing more than a temporary distraction, his usefulness was over the day they got the FISA warrant on him to cover the tracks of the fact that Obama had been spying on Trump from the day he came down the escalator. Now Page is a talking point and a distraction from what is really going on.

Perkins Coie will dispatch with him pretty easily, because they don't need the distractions, because they have a lot more on the line with the current investigation into the FISA Dossier nonsense and their being a passthrough cutout for the DNC Obama and the Clintons, and truth be told a lot more players than that.

Fox is reporting that Rosenstein has told Mueller to either hand over more indictments or shut it down and issue your findings report.

So either we can expect some more bogus indictments of foreigners that will never set foot on US soil, or a report of findings right after the midterms I suspect.

I am curious if mueller can shut down with Flynn still pending sentencing.

Funny all these bogus reports that Mueller is pursuing obstruction charges when it's virtually impossible without Rosenstein recusing himself, and that's not happening. I personally never thought Mueller was even considering it, because there's no grounds for it based on firing Comey, for whatever reason. POTUS doesn't even need a reason, he can fire any appointed official in the executive branch for any reason, whether it be his horoscope told him to or a two bt fortune teller. But having a requested from your #2 at the DOJ is pretty solid.

The first thing I thought of was I'm sure Rosey did say that, since it might allow Mueller to get the report out 3-4 days before the election.

Of course, I have no idea where they are in the process, but I became so jaded with the whole process about ten minutes after the investigation was announced.

My bet is that if any report from Mueller which is negative for Trump is leaked or it comes out before the election, you will see the FISA declass released the very next day or so.

To me, this is why the FISA declass and the IG report is being held back. It's all to keep Mueller and the deep state in check.

The black hats need to be very careful about what "October Surprises" they try to send out. Trump has an number of cards he can play with his own surprises. Right now the GOP is in a good spot due to the Kavanaugh fiasco and I think Trump believes this will be enough to help hold on to the House and Senate.