Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Also arrested last August on child pornography charges
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Geezus Dixie
I know, I laughed out loud! And I like BMX, but it's not personal. He's one of the few who brings thinking responses with a little bit middle to leftward slant. I've wondered how come Rosey has been such a "feckless ****" this whole time!

I'm thinking someone got the dessert before she could get her cut.
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Cow Hop Ag said:

dithyramb...

Now that is a 50 cent word if I have ever heard one.
Honestly I had to look that one up
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https://www.theepochtimes.com/russian-who-offered-clinton-dirt-to-trump-campaign-outed-himself-as-former-fbi-informant_2567077.html

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Russian Who Offered Clinton Dirt to Trump Campaign Outed Himself as Former FBI Informant

A Russian man that offered to sell damaging information on Hillary Clinton to the campaign of then-candidate Donald Trump revealed in earlier court documents that he had been a long-time FBI informant.

The man, Henry Greenberg, offered to sell the unspecified information for $2 million in late May, 2016, but the Trump campaign associate refused.

Greenberg, who also used the name Oknyansky, filed two dozen documents with a federal court in 2015, showing an FBI agent repeatedly brokered his entry into the United States on a special visa for people assisting law enforcement.

"I cooperated with the FBI for 17 years, often put my life in danger," he said in an Aug. 18, 2015, court declaration under oath.

Nine months later, he came uninvited to a gallery opening in Florida organized by a public relations firm run by Michael Caputo, who was working for the Trump Campaign at the time. There, he approached Caputo's business partner, Sergey Petrushin, and said he had information helpful to the Trump Campaign.

Petrushin told the Washington Post he called Caputo and handed the phone to Greenberg.

Caputo told the paper that Greenberg's Russian accent didn't raise his suspicion. At the time, talking to Russians wasn't considered controversial yet and Caputo himself used to be an adviser to Boris Yeltsin, the first post-communist Russian president.

"Let me get somebody to vet it for you," Caputo recalled saying to Greenberg.

He then connected Greenberg with Roger Stone, who lived in Florida.

Stone is a Republican strategist and lobbyist who worked early on in Trump's campaign and had long been an advisor to the candidate. However, Trump fired Stone from his campaign in August 2015.

Stone met Greenberg on May 29, 2016, in Sunny Isles. Stone told the Post that Greenberg came in a Trump shirt and a Make America Great Again hat.

When Greenberg made his offer, Stone told him, "You don't understand Donald Trump. He doesn't pay for anything."

He said the two then parted ways.

Both Stone and Caputo said they let the meeting out of their minds.

But last month, Caputo was questioned about the meeting by the team of special counsel Robert Mueller, who is probing Russian meddling in the U.S. election and allegations of the Trump campaign colluding with the Kremlin.

Caputo said Mueller's people were greatly interested in his contact with Greenberg and apparently had access to text messages between Stone and Caputo from May 2016 -- two months before the FBI claimed in leaks to The New York Times to have started the Trump-Russia investigation.......

Uh-oh! Nunes will be interested in this. FBI informant. And the news about Stone & Caputo being approached by this Greenberg chap just surfaced over the weekend. Pretty much proves they were running an FBI sting operation in May 2016, 2 months before the official counterintel investigation started.


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What happened when Caputo first mentioned this a while ago? Or is this a different meeting?
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drcrinum said:



There is an obvious reason why this is not receiving the attention it deserves in the MSM. Concord Management made a new court filing last Thursday in response to Team Mueller's antics -- it appears to be highly entertaining, and I have posted a link to the filing as well as the opening introductory paragraph to 'whet your whistle' of any legal beagles interested in deciphering its contents:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1llp2KhZg3iLEmjJ6K69SevUTYs7wMEb3/preview

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A. Introduction
Having produced not one iota of discovery in this criminal case, the unlawfully appointed Special Counsel requests a special and unprecedented blanket protective order covering tens of millions of pages of unclassified discovery. Having made this special request based on a secret submission to the Court and a hysterical dithyramb about the future of American elections, one would think that the Special Counsel would cite to case holdings that support this remarkable request. But no, instead, the Special Counsel seeks to equate this make-believe electioneering case to others involving international terrorism and major drug trafficking, and relies only on irrelevant dicta from inapposite, primarily out-of-circuit cases. In short, fake law, which is much more dangerous than fake news.



Surely ridicule of this magnitude must be eating Mueller's lunch. His stature in the legal realm has to be rapidly diminishing.

Gave this a quick read.

Wow, just wow.

Keep in mind that counsel for Concord Management is from Reed Smith (massive global law firm who, by the way, ain't cheap). So the fact that they wrote the brief they wrote in the tone that they wrote it means that they really think that Mueller a bungling idiot that is playing fast and loose with the rule of law.

Here's the money shot from the brief:

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The Special Counsel's requests are fashioned to deal with problems of his own making. He alone decided who and when to indict. There are no statute of limitations issues apparent from the face of the Indictment. He chose to indict a case while his investigation was apparently ongoing. He must deal with the consequences or he can dismiss the case.
And if that is the money shot, the whole brief is basically bukakke.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

For some time I had been scratching my head as to why Peter Strzok was involved in the Clinton email investigation to begin with, much less the lead investigator, based on the division he worked in and his official job titles.

It's my experience in life and involvement with different law enforcement agencies from small town east Texas PD's, to county sheriffs, to the DPS criminal investigative division, all the way up to the Texas Rangers division of the DPS; all these different levels of law enforcement agencies have divisions. Even the police department in Newton, Tx population 2476, has a PD with 5 LEO's 2 clerks, and a bailiff/runner for paperwork. Even the Newton PD has divisions, as slight as they may be. Chief Will Jackson is what the FBI would call a director. Sgt Herb Kelley would be considered the Asst Director at the FBI. Officer Sonny White being senior officer at the Newton PD is considered their lead investigator who also doubles as a traffic cop, due to the size and limitations of the Newton PD. In other words, when Jim Bob's pickup was stolen by a joy rider, Sonny was called in to take a statement, write a report and take a few pictures. He would likely bring along either officer Colin Havard or Cindy Smith as backup, because car theft is a big crime in Newton. Then they would notify the fine folks at the Newton County SO and my old friend Billy Rowles and his knot head son Chief Deputy Billy Jr. Newton Co SO has 18 LEO's 3 clerks 4 jailers, 2 Bailiffs, and approximately 6 auxiliary unpaid reservists. Even Newton CO SO has divisions.

Point being Law enforcement agencies at the lowest levels have assigned duties, usually based on their expertise and training, sometimes just based on limited availability of resources.

Now the FBI with their 35,000 plus employees, and 18,000 plus special agents, have divisions, many divisions, many specialists, and nearly unlimited resources, and billions of dollars in budget funding. Now with the discovery by the existence of a Clinton Private email server, due to a hacker claiming to have breached it, and the NY Times writing a story about it, and then the current State Dept OIG confirming that there was evidence that it did indeed exist. So with this revelation of the accidental discovery of the clintonmail.com server, the then Director of the FBI James Comey assigns Peter Strzok to oversee the investigation they labeled the "Mid Year Examine". Peter Strzok was serving as the section chief of the Counterespionage Section, a subordinate section of the FBI's Counterintelligence Division, under Deputy Asst Director Bill Preistap. SO the FBI with all these divisions, including:

I've listed the top tier divisions and current Asst Directors, and each of these divisions have sub divisions, so the list would be lengthy if I listed them all lets keep it short.

  • Executive Assistant Director Carl Ghattas
  • Counterintelligence Division Bill Priestap
  • Counterterrorism Division Michael C. McGarrity
  • High-Value Detainee Interrogation Group Eli "Sam" Miranda
  • Terrorist Screening Center Charles H. Kable, IV
  • Weapons of Mass Destruction Directorate Robert Allan Jones
  • Criminal Investigative Division J.C. Hacker
  • Critical Incident Response Group Gregory D. Cox
  • Cyber Division Scott Smith
  • International Operations Division George L. Piro
  • Victim Services Division Kathryn Turman
  • Directorate of Intelligence Donna L. Walsh
  • Office of Partner Engagement Kerry Sleeper
  • Office of Private Sector Douglas Korneski
  • IT Applications and Data Division Tracey North
  • IT Enterprise Services Division Jeremy Wiltz
  • IT Infrastructure Division W. L. Scott Bean, III
  • Human Resources Division David Schlendorf
  • Security Division Gerald "Jerry" Roberts, Jr.
  • Training Division Don Alway

So with all these divisions and all their subsequent sub divisions, does then Director James Comey assign Peter Strzok to oversee and be the lead investigator, what is obviously a "Criminal Investigation", and by Comey's own testimony was a "criminal investigation", why would they assign this to Peter Strzok and not say the actual "Criminal Investigation Division" and director J.C. Hacker, and his second in command SA Raymond Dawson?

Instead they assign this to the "Counterintelligence Division" under Bill Priestap and assign his second in command Peter Strzok. And then the IG report comes out, and Dixie pointed out this.



This was in fact never was a criminal investigation into Hillary and her server, it was in fact a "counterintelligence investigation" and let me guess they will use the excuse that they were trying to "protect Hillary", just like they were when they were running Spies/Human Sources at the trump Campaign for months. Except we aren't seeing the list of Spies/Human Sources that they were using on Hillary's campaign! SO was this a real counterintelligence investigation or not? Maybe they were using different techniques for her, with the vast arsenal of tools and the unlimited resources at their disposal.

Hopefully some more names get unmasked in this report and maybe future reports to find at least one Special Agent from the CID that worked or is working the HRC case, or if not we can pretty much just say, it never was a criminal investigation and settle on it being the farce it appears to be. And hopefully the FBI in the future will let the specialized divisions that specialize in the crimes at hand work on the cases that fit their job description.
I thought it was a "matter"
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Only Blindey could usr the terms "money Shot" and "bukakke" in the same sentence and get away with it.... bravo sir...
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GCP12 said:

What happened when Caputo first mentioned this a while ago? Or is this a different meeting?
Caputo & Stone both filed amendments to their Congressional testimony last Friday about being approached by this Greenberg chap. As far as I know, this is the first time anything has been said about a meeting with a Russian named Greenberg.
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drcrinum said:

GCP12 said:

What happened when Caputo first mentioned this a while ago? Or is this a different meeting?
Caputo & Stone both filed amendments to their Congressional testimony last Friday about being approached by this Greenberg chap. As far as I know, this is the first time anything has been said about a meeting with a Russian named Greenberg.
Caputo was on TV a few weeks ago talking about a meeting he thought was suspicious after the spy/informant stories came out.

Then, a day later, he took back what he said.
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GCP12 said:

drcrinum said:

GCP12 said:

What happened when Caputo first mentioned this a while ago? Or is this a different meeting?
Caputo & Stone both filed amendments to their Congressional testimony last Friday about being approached by this Greenberg chap. As far as I know, this is the first time anything has been said about a meeting with a Russian named Greenberg.
Caputo was on TV a few weeks ago talking about a meeting he thought was suspicious after the spy/informant stories came out.

Then, a day later, he took back what he said.
That was an unnamed (but identified) government contractor. Different. This is new about Greenberg who initially approached Caputo's associate.
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Ah thanks. I couldn't remember why that story died
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Only Blindey could usr the terms "money Shot" and "bukakke" in the same sentence and get away with it.... bravo sir...
oh...PSA.... anyone who doesn't know what that word means....don't google it at work, at home in front of family, on a device anyone might ever see, or, really, at all.
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With Cruz's line of questioning, and if you assume he is leading Wray to the real question he wants, it almost seemed as if he was trying to get him to confirm if another Hillary e-mail investigation was happening. What was funny was he almost got Wray so twisted up that he almost did spill some beans he shouldn't have spilled.
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blindey said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

Only Blindey could usr the terms "money Shot" and "bukakke" in the same sentence and get away with it.... bravo sir...
oh...PSA.... anyone who doesn't know what that word means....don't google it at work, at home in front of family, on a device anyone might ever see, or, really, at all.
I had to do a search, knew its meaning was er um ... racy when it was blocked by my browser. I clicked temporarily unblock, wowsers.

Now this begs the question, you are a lawyer, correct? What kind of lawyering do you practice, some of the cases should be good for a few books or movies.
just kidding

(Mueller's kabuki theater takes on a whole new meaning)
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OK, Devin.


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I was just simply amazed after three hours of reading text messages aloud and political theatrics that not one ****ing senator asked how the hell does Peter Strzok still have a job at the FBI
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Listening to opening comments from Grassley and Feinsten, Feinsten says that the report show "some" text messages that were critical of Hillary. How many? Two?

what a load.

It's also such garbage that the line "report did not find evidence of bias impacting the investigation..." keeps getting thrown around. How does Horowitz not shout "stop twisting what I said!," which was the report found no evidence that bias affected the prosecutors' decisions to not prosecute.

Personal bias of the actual investigators damn sure impacted the actual investigation
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Laura Ingraham corners Sessions on the DOJ dragging their feet, and he gives the canned answer. She also asked about Rosenstein

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Lindsey Graham was in rare form yesterday

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Cruz almost got Wray to spill the beans

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Why the hell hasn't any Republican asked Horowitz and Wray if Comey, Strzok or Page has been given immunity ?????
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Always easy on the eyes Shannon Bream

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http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/18/christopher-steele-appears-for-court-ordered-deposition-in-london.html

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Former British spy Christopher Steele, author of the Trump dossier, concluded a four-hour videotaped deposition in London Monday, Fox News has confirmed.

Steele's long-delayed, court-ordered deposition was for the ongoing multi-million dollar civil lawsuit on both sides of the Atlantic, filed by Russian tech guru Aleksej Gubarev against Buzzfeed and Steele.

Gubarev is suing because he claims his companies, Webzilla and XBT Holdings, were defamed by Steele after the unverified dossier was published by Buzzfeed on January 10th 2017. The dossier alleged that Gubarev's companies "used botnets and porn traffic to transmit viruses, plant bugs, steal data and conduct 'alerting operations' against the Democratic party leadership." .....


Interesting tidbit. Steele was forced to give a video-taped deposition in London yesterday. His testimony was sealed by the court, as was video-taped testimony by McCain's associate David Kramer. The article also mentions that Comey is currently in London on a tour promoting his book.
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Yup.
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blindey said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

Only Blindey could usr the terms "money Shot" and "bukakke" in the same sentence and get away with it.... bravo sir...
oh...PSA.... anyone who doesn't know what that word means....don't google it at work, at home in front of family, on a device anyone might ever see, or, really, at all.
Too late... wish I hadn't!
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aggiehawg said:

BMX Bandit said:

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If all that's true Trump need only issue a simple directive ordering all of it be provided to congress. Why hasn't he?
Because it's a trap.


It's a trap to give congress documents they subpoena? Sorry, that's about as far fetched as one can get.



Good Lord! Grow a sack and see the game being played here. You are supposedly a lawyer, I am a lawyer who may be retired and inactive but I understand the strategy.

Trump cannot declassify everything without compromising national security (impeachable offense) so Rosenstein and Mueller decide to bait him into firing them as abuse of power (also impeachable offense.)

And they keep upping the ante trying to trigger him. If Rosenstein uses his hand to the face to Congress or Mueller seizes Trump's personal attorney's records (yeah, yeah, the SDNY is only technically involved there) there are multiple traps being set. They are trying to piss him off enough to entrap him. And his nature would seem to be conducive to that effort.

Look, you and I both know Manafort is sleazy and likely dirty but none of the US Attorneys offices looking at him ever had enough to bring before a grand jury, until Mueller used NSA material to help but then took it away from the EDVA instead of giving the info to them? Why?

Then he turns around and gives the info to SDNY and sics them on Cohen. Again, why? What's the difference in treatment?
sorry, your delusions aren't a "strategy"

No one is asking Trump to declassify everything. How about a simple "I have directed DoJ to provide me everything they are withholding so I can review for national security issues with my national security team"? If DoJ does not comply, then Congress can either sanction them or seek to impeach. Trump can remain quiet and say "thats Congress"

As of now, Trump is giving DoJ cover on all of these Congressional requests. I don't know if thats intentional or not, but its whats happening.

rather than the "grow a sack" Manafort and Cohen diversions, lets stick to the issue here about production of docs to Congress.

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re HOROWITZ:


did anyone ever ask about who wrote the "Executive summary"?
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Here is a very curious question by the ever colorful Sen Kennedy, asking about a conversation between then AG Loretta Lynch and Amanda Renteria. Now most people will ask, who the hell is Amanda Renteria? On a google search you find out she was an all american softball thrid basemen from Sanford University. But if you look a little closer, especially during the timeline of Kennedy's line of questioning about a conversation she had with then AG Lynch, that is so classified it is not listed in the public version of the IG Report, and is only listed in the classified appendix attached to the IG report. And it is evidently so classified, that Horowitz hesitates to even mention it or talk about it during yesterday's hearing. Who was Amanda Renteria during this classified conversation? She was a Democratic operative who served as the National Political Director for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. She has no clearance for classified information that anyone knows about, and she's the National Director for Hillary's Campaign. WTF is Loretta Lynch doing having a highly classified conversation with the National Political Director to HRC? Looks to me Lynch now has her second meeting on the Tarmac moment. The AG is having a highly classified conversation with the Hillary Campaign during the time she is under investigation by the DOJ/FBI. Somebody needs to explain this one away with something other than Golfing and Grandkids like with Bill Clinton.

No damn wonder Lynch refused to testify yesterday.


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You are never going to get an explanation for the Lynch/Clinton tarmac meeting.

Its obvious why they met, and just as obvious that other than hand wringing, nothing is ever going to happen.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Here is a very curious question by the ever colorful Sen Kennedy, asking about a conversation between then AG Loretta Lynch and Amanda Renteria. Now most people will ask, who the hell is Amanda Renteria? On a google search you find out she was an all american softball thrid basemen from Sanford University. But if you look a little closer, especially during the timeline of Kennedy's line of questioning about a conversation she had with then AG Lynch, that is so classified it is not listed in the public version of the IG Report, and is only listed in the classified appendix attached to the IG report. And it is evidently so classified, that Horowitz hesitates to even mention it or talk about it during yesterday's hearing. Who was Amanda Renteria during this classified conversation? She was a Democratic operative who served as the National Political Director for Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. She has no clearance for classified information that anyone knows about, and she's the National Director for Hillary's Campaign. WTF is Loretta Lynch doing having a highly classified conversation with the National Political Director to HRC? Looks to me Lynch now has her second meeting on the Tarmac moment. The AG is having a highly classified conversation with the Hillary Campaign during the time she is under investigation by the DOJ/FBI. Somebody needs to explain this one away with something other than Golfing and Grandkids like with Bill Clinton.

No damn wonder Lynch refused to testify yesterday.



She also is/was running for governor in California. Imperator Rex has been challenging her about the Lynch email. Read the following email thread/replies:

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WTF is Loretta Lynch doing having a highly classified conversation with the National Political Director to HRC? Looks to me Lynch now has her second meeting on the Tarmac moment. The AG is having a highly classified conversation with the Hillary Campaign during the time she is under investigation by the DOJ/FBI. Somebody needs to explain this one away with something other than Golfing and Grandkids like with Bill Clinton.
Which agency slapped such a high classification on it and you'll find your answer. I have seen references that this email was obtained from the Russians, suggesting it was obtained through counter-intel sources/methods.

I remember Comey making a vague reference to other classified information that had dubious origination but if it were made public would put Lynch and the DOJ in a bad light. The suggestion there is that it may be disinformation manufactured by the Russians to sow discord. As Ms. Renteria now claims.

Seems to me a to/from 702 query to the NSA could clear that up. Was it real or not? They could check the metadata to see where it was routed.
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