Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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'OCONUS Lures' was an Internet blog discovery, and the MSM has even written articles dismissing it and Twitter blocked the account of the individual who initially discovered it. Must be a major revelation.
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"Oconus Lures" would be a great name for a band.
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The @threadreaderapp has been suspended by Twitter. The above tweet is the start of an important thread. You'll have to click on it and follow in Twitter, and unfortunately it's rather long.
It's point is: What if there is a second investigation ongoing into the Hillary email server, but that this investigation is into who was sending Hillary highly classified emails...not only Hillary receiving them but other people like Blumenthal.
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Are leftists trying to obstruct the free flow and exchange of information by complaint spamming twitter accounts they dislike?
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Are leftists trying to obstruct the free flow and exchange of information by complaint spamming twitter accounts they dislike?
Major-league organized efforts directed at conservative twitter accounts, including several doxxing events and threats. It's not just TDS that's involved; IMO there are paid operators via leftist outfits.
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The latest BS on the document drama. I think the FBI/DOJ are speaking with forked tongues.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Are leftists trying to obstruct the free flow and exchange of information by complaint spamming twitter accounts they dislike?
You know that's the leftist playbook

1. Demonize opposition
2. Suppress/drown out dissention
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World class lying



So.... it WAS a criminal investigation according to Swalwell?
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Sens. Mike Lee (R-UT), Chuck Grassley (R-IA), and Lisa Murkowski (R-AK) introduced the Inspector General Access Act of 2018today, a bill that would expand the jurisdiction of the Department of Justice's Office of the Inspector General to include alleged DOJ attorney misconduct.
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**** Trey Gowdy. That is all
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Recently retired National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers stated in a classified letter to Congress that the Clinton campaign-funded memos did factor into the ICA. And James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence under President Obama, conceded in a recent CNN interview that the assessment was based on "some of the substantive content of the dossier." Without elaborating, he maintained that "we were able to corroborate" certain allegations.

These accounts are at odds with Brennan's May 2017 testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that the Steele dossier was "not in any way used as the basis for the intelligence community's assessment" that Russia interfered in the election to help elect Donald Trump. Brennan has repeated this claim numerous times, including in February on "Meet the Press."

In a March 5, 2018, letter to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Adm. Rogers informed the committee that a two-page summary of the dossier described as "the Christopher Steele information" was "added" as an "appendix to the ICA draft," and that consideration of that appendix was "part of the overall ICA review/approval process."...


Brennan, serial liar.
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New detailed info on Carter Page. Strzok definitely knew that Page was not a Russian agent because Strzok worked on the Buryakov case where Page was an informant. He used Page because he was convenient...he had been employed in Moscow and had Russian contacts.
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New detailed info on Carter Page. Strzok definitely knew that Page was not a Russian agent because Strzok worked on the Buryakov case where Page was an informant. He used Page because he was convenient...he had been employed in Moscow and had Russian contacts.
Also how could he be a Russian "spy" if he was an "informant"? Uh oh, the semantics game has caught up with them!
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The @threadreaderapp has been suspended by Twitter. The above tweet is the start of an important thread. You'll have to click on it and follow in Twitter, and unfortunately it's rather long.
It's point is: What if there is a second investigation ongoing into the Hillary email server, but that this investigation is into who was sending Hillary highly classified emails...not only Hillary receiving them but other people like Blumenthal.

Evidently there is a workaround, the twitter bot account was suspended but the WorkFlow software is still active. These are screen shots from their website for the Threadroller. And there is an App for both iOS and Android to do t off your phone.





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New detailed info on Carter Page. Strzok definitely knew that Page was not a Russian agent because Strzok worked on the Buryakov case where Page was an informant. He used Page because he was convenient...he had been employed in Moscow and had Russian contacts.
If you sit and think about it, this is a working pattern of investigative behavior by this team of rogue agent/bureaucrats. This is circular referencing 2.2

Think about the way they used the Dossier overall. They wrote a BS document, based off of here say/Fiction, sourced that theory off of news articles written by two writers that had a hand/connection with the creation of the document, based on here say they were fed by the actual creator(s). Steele's background as former MI6 lends the appearance of legitimacy to the average Joe. Him hating Trump gives him motive/motivation to be involved.

In this case they create a perpetrator by using CHS(s) (Confidential Humane Source(s)) that have been used in the past, to save having to create an entire fake background/backstory to support the accusation that they were Russian connected, regardless of how slight or distantly connect they are. They send in the CHS with a legit background however so slight, in Page's own words never even spoke with DJT the candidate. And use him to justify unlawful spying/surveillance they've been doing all along, to try and ruin a candidacy of an opposition party. Call it bootstrapping of it's easier to wrap your head around, no pun intended. But it's just another form of circular referencing.

Same with Papadopoulos, he didn't have the extensive background that Page had, but he was just slimy enough to make it work, send in the players to give it some weight, Mifsud, Halper, and Downer. Papa-dummy thinks he's going to be a real player in the end game when Trump loses to Hillary and will be rewarded with some low level abilities to make paper through Lobbying with the Swamp, Like Manafort has made Millions doing. Papadopoulos wanted to end up being a Paul Manafort for the next 30 years. And that's his incentive.

All these mechanisms were in play dating back to a 2015 initial build up. It took a bit to make something stick. It never got really serious until Trump won the RNC nomination then it really started ramping up. Still believing HRC will win this and all this/these effort(s) will go right under the rug. They took every precaution, they basically set up a triangular kill zone, just like you would in a wet operation to eliminate an opposition. They had every element, every aspect covered to enable this result. They had the press propaganda machine, the funding in the billions, the strength of the US Gov's and the UK's IC in place at full strength, just one thing went wrong. One thing they had no control over and no way to predict it. The one element that had the least chance of being successful, but the biggest impact if it did, causing the entire "House of Cards" (intentional reference) to come tumbling down.

Trump Won

And here we are today. This is going to be the greatest Non Fiction ever written one day


Edit: Notice the one element missing from this entire Russian Op?

Real Russians. I'm talking legit Russian Bad guys. You'll find more Russian bad guys walking down the strip in Vegas trying to find a top shelf escort.
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I would be if nobody ever held me to account, paid me to do it (hansomely), and paved the way for nice payouts in the future.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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The @threadreaderapp has been suspended by Twitter. The above tweet is the start of an important thread. You'll have to click on it and follow in Twitter, and unfortunately it's rather long.
It's point is: What if there is a second investigation ongoing into the Hillary email server, but that this investigation is into who was sending Hillary highly classified emails...not only Hillary receiving them but other people like Blumenthal.

Here is the unroll

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/999318435216715776.html
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I agree, except we need to know those "writers" are.

You can imagine how the book woud read with FOW's as the writers--Friends of Swalwell.
Hate is how progressives sustain themselves. Without hate, introspection begins to slip into the progressive's consciousness, threatening the progressive with the truth: that their ideas and opinions are illogical, hypocritical, dangerous, and asinine.
This is backed by data.
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fasthorses05 said:

I agree, except we need to know those "writers" are.

You can imagine how the book woud read with FOW's as the writers--Friends of Swalwell.

I would guess it would be today's version of Woodward and Bernstein. Who would that be?

ETA: And what would the title be as opposed to "All the Presidents Men"

There has been a contingent of people concerned enough about all of this that have done good work. God Bless them all.
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I'm curious how Dpop and Page were originally nominated for Trumps foreign policy team in the first place. It would be interesting to know how they surfaced as options when Trump was pushed to quickly name his team during the campaign. My bet, they were pushed there with the intent to leverage them later.
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Recently retired National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers stated in a classified letter to Congress that the Clinton campaign-funded memos did factor into the ICA. And James Clapper, Director of National Intelligence under President Obama, conceded in a recent CNN interview that the assessment was based on "some of the substantive content of the dossier." Without elaborating, he maintained that "we were able to corroborate" certain allegations.

These accounts are at odds with Brennan's May 2017 testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that the Steele dossier was "not in any way used as the basis for the intelligence community's assessment" that Russia interfered in the election to help elect Donald Trump. Brennan has repeated this claim numerous times, including in February on "Meet the Press."

In a March 5, 2018, letter to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, Adm. Rogers informed the committee that a two-page summary of the dossier described as "the Christopher Steele information" was "added" as an "appendix to the ICA draft," and that consideration of that appendix was "part of the overall ICA review/approval process."...


Brennan, serial liar.
Seems pretty clear that Brennan's been set up to be the fall guy with all of his twisting in the wind, the Twitter outbursts, etc.

Guessing he doesn't have one of those handy dandy get out of jail memos to save himself.
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Let's go back to Papadop for a minute. He was arrested July 27, 2017 and held overnight. Politico in December 2017

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When former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos stepped off a flight from Germany at Dulles Airport outside Washington last July, he had no inkling of the unwelcome surprise in store for him: FBI agents waiting to place him under arrest.

For the 29-year-old Chicago native, it was going to be a long night.

Jail records obtained by POLITICO show that Papadopoulos was booked at the city detention center in Alexandria, Virginia, at 1:45 a.m. the next day.

Despite the late arrival at the jail and the fact that Papadopoulos later agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, his Chicago-based defense lawyers Thomas Breen and Rob Stanley said in an interview that the FBI did not attempt to interrogate him right away.
Remember, this is Team Mueller doing this.

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Breen (his lawyer) recalled being told by the FBI promptly that night that Papadopoulos was being taken into custody. "I got a phone call from counsel for the FBI around 6:30 p.m. [Chicago time], saying he was being arrested and they would arrange for him to be able to call us," the former Cook County, Illinois, prosecutor said.

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Breen declined to get into specifics of his conversations with his client, but he suggested Papadopoulos was agitated by the series of events that played out on July 27.

"That night, they did everything they could to let me and Rob talk to him and calm him down and explain to him that he was going to court tomorrow," said Breen.

In those conversations, the self-described oil, gas and policy consultant with a slot on candidate Donald Trump's foreign policy team learned that he was being charged with lying to the FBI in a January 2017 interview about his contacts with pro-Russia advocates and with obstruction of justice for shutting down his Facebook account one day after a follow-up interview with the FBI in February.
Deleting a FaceBook account is obstruction of justice??

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Breen declined to detail the cooperation with Mueller's team but told POLITICO that aspects of the case remain a mystery to him, including why prosecutors acted with such haste to arrest his client in July even before they had gone to court to seek a warrant or formal charges.

"They had probable cause. They could have arrested him at any time," the veteran defense attorney said. "Why'd they do it at that point in time? I don't know. They haven't told me their strategy."

Spokespeople for Mueller's office and the FBI declined to comment for this article, but in court papers they cited a need to keep the charges against Papadopoulos secret because of planned interviews with other Trump campaign officials and others relevant to the investigation.
July 27th. Hhmmm. Same date Horowitz went to Mueller about Page/Strzok texts. And the raid on Manafort was within a day or two of the same date. Also, the Carter Page FISA warrant was renewed at the same time.

Mueller and Rosenstein really hit the ground running after his May appointment. Intimidation tactics galore. And then a few days later on August 2nd, Rosenstein pens the infamous and highly redacted memo to Mueller changing his jurisdiction.

The timing here is just too suspicious. Within a two day period, they went after Manafort, Papadop and Page.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

drcrinum said:



The @threadreaderapp has been suspended by Twitter. The above tweet is the start of an important thread. You'll have to click on it and follow in Twitter, and unfortunately it's rather long.
It's point is: What if there is a second investigation ongoing into the Hillary email server, but that this investigation is into who was sending Hillary highly classified emails...not only Hillary receiving them but other people like Blumenthal.

Here is the unroll

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/999318435216715776.html
Just when I think I can't get any more worked up about this story...

Jail isn't good enough for the Clinton's, Obama, and their ilk. They need to rot in hell!
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SamjamAg said:

I'm curious how Dpop and Page were originally nominated for Trumps foreign policy team in the first place. It would be interesting to know how they surfaced as options when Trump was pushed to quickly name his team during the campaign. My bet, they were pushed there with the intent to leverage them later.
Papadopoulos was originally attached to Ben Carson, had to be the most boring assignment on earth as laid back and low energy as Ben Carson is. No knock on the man, that's the way he's wired. Brilliant Surgeon, great story as far as where he came from. But nothing going on there.

Papadopoulos comes over right after Ben Carson dropped out, and joined the Trump Team, via Sam Clovis.

Page to me was/is a straight up spook contract CHS, Strzok pulled him up out of his Rolodex and he went in basically was the guy wedding crasher, hangs out by the wet bar and eats and drinks for free. He's never really been in the campaign, never even talked to Trump. He's a frenger at best. But when the campaign was filling out a roster for all to see, building something that looked like a team, when in fact that entire braintrust in that campaign could assemble in a Chevy Suburban. They won the POTUS with a team of less than 10, all the rest were just ground troops and fluff. Carter Page was pushed into Team Trump, by Ed Cox long time Swamper

Don't overlook Manafort either. Obama weaponized the CI against Trump, however the Never Trump hardline RINO's like McCain, Bush, etc had their own plan, people like Manafort, Stone, Bannon, etc have deep ties to the Red Teams money maker system. Manafort's sin in this is, I'm think is he got on the inside thanks to Reince Priebus and saw there was big money to be made through Trump if he wins. He also saw the polls and data they were seeing internally and went with what comes naturally to Manafort. He went after the big bucks, so the Swamp came collecting. Their problem is they can't Seth Rich Manafort, way too high profile and people like Manafort ALWAYS have an insurance policy that has to be dealt with. In the old days you had photos or tapes on somebody, (Hoover 101) now days it's digital. You think they really want every scrap of paper, digital drives, matchbook cover, just to lock him up? He's an easy target for FARA, but when was the last time you saw FARA enforced? House rules #17 do not open that can of worms by prosecuting FARA, because we will then have to lock up everyone on K Street.
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Papadopoulos was originally attached to Ben Carson, had to be the most boring assignment on earth as laid back and low energy as Ben Carson is. No knock on the man, that's the way he's wired. Brilliant Surgeon, great story as far as where he came from. But nothing going on there.
So is Papadopoulos considered one of the "informants" and if so wouldn't that mean they suspected laid back and low energy Ben Carson a puppet of Putin? It's absolutely ridiculous.

I suppose they will say he switched to wearing an "informant" hat once he discovered all the Russian collusion within the Trump campaign.

I wish the FISA OIG would drop today.
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Let's go back to Papadop for a minute. He was arrested July 27, 2017 and held overnight. Politico in December 2017

Quote:

When former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos stepped off a flight from Germany at Dulles Airport outside Washington last July, he had no inkling of the unwelcome surprise in store for him: FBI agents waiting to place him under arrest.

For the 29-year-old Chicago native, it was going to be a long night.

Jail records obtained by POLITICO show that Papadopoulos was booked at the city detention center in Alexandria, Virginia, at 1:45 a.m. the next day.

Despite the late arrival at the jail and the fact that Papadopoulos later agreed to cooperate with prosecutors, his Chicago-based defense lawyers Thomas Breen and Rob Stanley said in an interview that the FBI did not attempt to interrogate him right away.
Remember, this is Team Mueller doing this.

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Breen (his lawyer) recalled being told by the FBI promptly that night that Papadopoulos was being taken into custody. "I got a phone call from counsel for the FBI around 6:30 p.m. [Chicago time], saying he was being arrested and they would arrange for him to be able to call us," the former Cook County, Illinois, prosecutor said.

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Breen declined to get into specifics of his conversations with his client, but he suggested Papadopoulos was agitated by the series of events that played out on July 27.

"That night, they did everything they could to let me and Rob talk to him and calm him down and explain to him that he was going to court tomorrow," said Breen.

In those conversations, the self-described oil, gas and policy consultant with a slot on candidate Donald Trump's foreign policy team learned that he was being charged with lying to the FBI in a January 2017 interview about his contacts with pro-Russia advocates and with obstruction of justice for shutting down his Facebook account one day after a follow-up interview with the FBI in February.
Deleting a FaceBook account is obstruction of justice??

Quote:

Breen declined to detail the cooperation with Mueller's team but told POLITICO that aspects of the case remain a mystery to him, including why prosecutors acted with such haste to arrest his client in July even before they had gone to court to seek a warrant or formal charges.

"They had probable cause. They could have arrested him at any time," the veteran defense attorney said. "Why'd they do it at that point in time? I don't know. They haven't told me their strategy."

Spokespeople for Mueller's office and the FBI declined to comment for this article, but in court papers they cited a need to keep the charges against Papadopoulos secret because of planned interviews with other Trump campaign officials and others relevant to the investigation.
July 27th. Hhmmm. Same date Horowitz went to Mueller about Page/Strzok texts. And the raid on Manafort was within a day or two of the same date. Also, the Carter Page FISA warrant was renewed at the same time.

Mueller and Rosenstein really hit the ground running after his May appointment. Intimidation tactics galore. And then a few days later on August 2nd, Rosenstein pens the infamous and highly redacted memo to Mueller changing his jurisdiction.

The timing here is just too suspicious. Within a two day period, they went after Manafort, Papadop and Page.


Hat Tip Dixie

At the small town Sheriff level or even the State investigator level, if you have either an undercover LEO embedded or a snitch on the inside of targeted group and they are deep cover and may be on shaky ground or a chance of being found out, how do we try and solidify their cover as being a bad guy, you arrest them and bring them in. Get them in the room with the two way mirror, put on the show, his part in the overall scheme is done. Charge him with garbage and never really do anything to him. This is all damage control against the plot that failed when HRC lost the election.

No matter what they did, They couldn't save HRC's career, she lived but she's done



Mueller is the cleaner



This is Barry and Clinton right now



Natalia Veselnitskaya did her part



They just really underestimated who they were messing with



Sorry for all the Pulp Fiction graphics was just comical to me.
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I prefer to think of Horowitz as the cleaner. I think of Mueller as Ringo cluelessly botching a robbery.
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Prosperdick said:

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Papadopoulos was originally attached to Ben Carson, had to be the most boring assignment on earth as laid back and low energy as Ben Carson is. No knock on the man, that's the way he's wired. Brilliant Surgeon, great story as far as where he came from. But nothing going on there.
So is Papadopoulos considered one of the "informants" and if so wouldn't that mean they suspected laid back and low energy Ben Carson a puppet of Putin? It's absolutely ridiculous.

I suppose they will say he switched to wearing an "informant" hat once he discovered all the Russian collusion within the Trump campaign.

I wish the FISA OIG would drop today.
Please slow your breathing

When this all washes out it's going to be pretty clear, Barry was looking at every single one of the 17 red team candidates in some form or fashion. They don't waste big assets on small fish that have zero chance. But when Trump started gaining steam more assets were introduced to his campaign. They were never looking for Russians in ANYBODY, they were just spy/surveilling them, Russians are just an excuse to try and Justify it when they got caught. What turned out to be straight dirty politics elevated to the level of weaponizing the CI as a political tool, and it blew up in their face. Their Russian narrative is last minute thrown together loose garbage, to use as a cover story, and it's fallen apart and they Titanic is going down and their aren't enough lifeboats.
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I can't wait until they bring out the Gimp for Brennan.
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Prosperdick said:

I prefer to think of Horowitz as the cleaner. I think of Mueller as Ringo cluelessly botching a robbery.
No this is Horowitz, unorthodox, eccentric, but a bull dog.



Mueller is trying to clean up the mess that Barry and HRC left behind when she lost. The Cleaner isn't a good guy, he's there to clean up the Swamp mess.
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IDAGG said:

I can't wait until they bring out the Gimp for Brennan.
I'd actually like someone to go medieval on Brennan...I think Marsellus Wallace and some hard pipe hitting mother ****ers would do the trick.
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Social media blocking people because they're gett too close needs is BS. Social Media needs to either be free or their monopoly status reviewed.
Who is John Galt?

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Social media blocking people because they're gett too close needs is BS. Social Media needs to either be free or their monopoly status reviewed.
Only Trump isn't allowed to block anyone...but it's fine for them to target conservative citizen journalists. Targeting conservatives is a national past time to the libs.
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Mueller is trying to clean up the mess that Barry and HRC left behind when she lost. The Cleaner isn't a good guy, he's there to clean up the Swamp mess.
He's doing a poor job of it, then. Very poor job. If I were one of those witnesses who had to turn over electronic devices, I would then have it checked out for spyware being placed on it by Mueller once it was returned. He's running a spying operation not a criminal investigation.
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I agree with roscoe I wouldn't turn over a damn thing. He better provide a warrant. And if no warrant yet can't they just erase everything?
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