Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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I wouldn't allow them at all on Air Force One. Put them in a follow-up plane and bill the White House Press Corps for the cost of the planes.
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Halper makes a statement to the press, info placed in an article, article picked up by intel people, confirms report Halper submitted to CIA. You've seen this tactic before: Fusion GPS & Steele feed material from the dossier to Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News, the latter writes an article, the FBI uses the latter article to confirm the authenticity of the dossier to the FISA judge.
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Halper makes a statement to the press, info placed in an article, article picked up by intel people, confirms report Halper submitted to CIA. You've seen this tactic before: Fusion GPS & Steele feed material from the dossier to Michael Isikoff of Yahoo News, the latter writes an article, the FBI uses the latter article to confirm the authenticity of the dossier to the FISA judge.
That's politics not counter-intel. Halper holds dual citizenship. He's American. How he hasn't been detained as "a person of interest" before now is baffling. Sure, he's gone underground but we know all of his bank accounts, credit cards, etc. Theresa May is not in a position to block us from taking this guy and bringing him back on U.S. soil to spill his guts.
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drcrinum said:



...and my educated guess for its release..."when pigs fly" and snow cones are common fare in Hell. Nothings going to come from this folks. It's Washington DC, for chriss' sake and we're the "peanut gallery" as far as the real participants are concerned. POTUS said it..."It's rigged".
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aggiehawg said:

I wouldn't allow them at all on Air Force One. Put them in a follow-up plane and bill the White House Press Corps for the cost of the planes.
Make them ride with Maddog

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Good article on National Security Letters and how Sally Yates kept the OIG from oversight involving their use, and how the Patriot Act permitted wider use on NSLs by the FBI. It's rather obvious that NSLs were used in the FBI counterintel investigation of the Russia-Trump Campaign collusion (the NYT told us NSLs were employed) because the Patriot Act opened a cracked door to a wide open door.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5793467/Prosecutors-interview-James-Comey-Andrew-McCabe-probe.html
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Prosecutors interviewed fired FBI director James Comey and are considering whether his deputy Andrew McCabe should be charged for lying to federal agents, a report suggests.

Investigators from the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office recently spoke to Comey as part of their probe into whether McCabe broke the law, The Washington Post reported.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz has accused McCabe of misleading investigators.

He has also accused Comey of lying four times three of them under oath.

Lying to investigators carries a five-year prison sentence, but McCabe has denied any wrongdoing.

Michael R. Bromwich, McCabe's lawyer, said in a statement to the Post: 'A little more than a month ago, we confirmed that we had been advised that a criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney's Office had been made regarding Mr. McCabe.

'We said at that time that we were confident that, unless there is inappropriate pressure from high levels of the Administration, the U.S. Attorney's Office would conclude that it should decline to prosecute. Our view has not changed.'

A Justice Department spokeswoman and a lawyer for Comey declined to comment for the story.

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I'd bet anything that not one single person will ever be prosecuted based on the OIG reports.

Sessions will either block it or recuse himself, allowing Rosenstein to block it.
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Rapier108 said:

I'd bet anything that not one single person will ever be prosecuted based on the OIG reports.

Sessions will either block it or recuse himself, allowing Rosenstein to block it.

Why do you think Sessions brought in Huber? Cool your jets the anxiety is unnecessary
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Rapier108 said:

I'd bet anything that not one single person will ever be prosecuted based on the OIG reports.

Sessions will either block it or recuse himself, allowing Rosenstein to block it.

Summary executions then?

I can think about it before I make a final assertion.
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RoscoePColtrane said:

Rapier108 said:

I'd bet anything that not one single person will ever be prosecuted based on the OIG reports.

Sessions will either block it or recuse himself, allowing Rosenstein to block it.

Why do you think Sessions brought in Huber? Cool your jets the anxiety is unnecessary
Not anxious one way or the other (I have enough problems in my life to worry about), but I'm just not optimistic when it comes to justice being served.
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aggiehawg said:

In the immortal words of Didi Snavely:

Gaaaaaawwwwdddd damnit!
Holy Cow!

I've seen the first three, and still use the quotes regularly. "I just don't feel safe without strychnine in the house". When Snavely smokes the cig, and sings between puffs, I just lose it.

My God, some of the best smartass quotes of ALL time are from those four plays! "I've been to the big city, I've been to Waco"!!
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It's a little hard to believe that after all the criticism from Trump and others, that Jeff Sessions has just been dicking around all along and plans to continue dicking around as Attorney General. It seems more likely that he knows a lot of things behind the scenes and is getting ready to pounce with prosecutions when the right time comes.
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Tidbits from the OIG Bi-annual Report







https://oig.justice.gov/semiannual/1805.pdf
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Rapier108 said:

RoscoePColtrane said:

Rapier108 said:

I'd bet anything that not one single person will ever be prosecuted based on the OIG reports.

Sessions will either block it or recuse himself, allowing Rosenstein to block it.

Why do you think Sessions brought in Huber? Cool your jets the anxiety is unnecessary
Not anxious one way or the other (I have enough problems in my life to worry about), but I'm just not optimistic when it comes to justice being served.
I have to believe there will be some sort of consequences. Maybe everybody is keeping their powder dry waiting for the midterms. Reports and arrests can quickly change the news cycle if needed.
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BMX Bandit said:

that's now a different topic.

If Gowdy believes the FBI did nothing wrong, do you think he should just remain quiet?

Are you Trey Gowdy's Mom or girlfriend?!?! If not one of the 2, I really don't get your obsession with carrying his water?
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This guy said there would be a breaking story today. Nothing burger.
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I got a fever. And the only prescription...is more BOOMs and MOABs.
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GCP12 said:

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He's also a law and order guy that respects the American judicial system and the FBI's role in it. The combination of the two leads to tunnel vision at very inopportune times.
This is probably the biggest part of it. I am sure he believes, "The FBI and US law enforcement should never be attacked."

Well, sometimes they deserve to be attacked.

Spying(or w/e the F he wants to call it) on a presidential campaign is one of those times.

Or maybe it's not spying.
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Anybody with a brain knows it was spying.
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Prognightmare said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5793467/Prosecutors-interview-James-Comey-Andrew-McCabe-probe.html
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Prosecutors interviewed fired FBI director James Comey and are considering whether his deputy Andrew McCabe should be charged for lying to federal agents, a report suggests.

Investigators from the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office recently spoke to Comey as part of their probe into whether McCabe broke the law, The Washington Post reported.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz has accused McCabe of misleading investigators.

He has also accused Comey of lying four times three of them under oath.

Lying to investigators carries a five-year prison sentence, but McCabe has denied any wrongdoing.

Michael R. Bromwich, McCabe's lawyer, said in a statement to the Post: 'A little more than a month ago, we confirmed that we had been advised that a criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney's Office had been made regarding Mr. McCabe.

'We said at that time that we were confident that, unless there is inappropriate pressure from high levels of the Administration, the U.S. Attorney's Office would conclude that it should decline to prosecute. Our view has not changed.'

A Justice Department spokeswoman and a lawyer for Comey declined to comment for the story.


Is this an investigation we knew about? Does it stem straight from the oig? Who's the US attorney in charge?
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marble rye said:

This guy said there would be a breaking story today. Nothing burger.
Not sure what you've been watching but it's been a pretty busy week and the story John Solomon teased tonight is a pretty big deal.
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GCP12 said:

Prognightmare said:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5793467/Prosecutors-interview-James-Comey-Andrew-McCabe-probe.html
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Prosecutors interviewed fired FBI director James Comey and are considering whether his deputy Andrew McCabe should be charged for lying to federal agents, a report suggests.

Investigators from the D.C. U.S. Attorney's Office recently spoke to Comey as part of their probe into whether McCabe broke the law, The Washington Post reported.

Justice Department Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz has accused McCabe of misleading investigators.

He has also accused Comey of lying four times three of them under oath.

Lying to investigators carries a five-year prison sentence, but McCabe has denied any wrongdoing.

Michael R. Bromwich, McCabe's lawyer, said in a statement to the Post: 'A little more than a month ago, we confirmed that we had been advised that a criminal referral to the U.S. Attorney's Office had been made regarding Mr. McCabe.

'We said at that time that we were confident that, unless there is inappropriate pressure from high levels of the Administration, the U.S. Attorney's Office would conclude that it should decline to prosecute. Our view has not changed.'

A Justice Department spokeswoman and a lawyer for Comey declined to comment for the story.


Is this an investigation we knew about? Does it stem straight from the oig? Who's the US attorney in charge?
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What was the story Solomon teased?
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GCP12 said:

What was the story Solomon teased?
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I can't post this as it's paywalled, but I can read it in my ancient cell phone. Anyway, another hole in the Downer-Papadopoulos story. Downer didn't send a report back to the home office in Australia about his meeting with Papadopoulos...instead he conveyed his information to the US Embassy in London. What happened then -- how the information was transmitted to the FBI -- is unknown. But now we know why Nunes in investigating the US State Department and its involvement with the the dossier/EC. It also explains why there is no Five Eyes official intel report in the EC about Papadopoulos.


Edit: Here is an image of the relevant part of the article:

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I can't post this as it's paywalled, but I can read it in my ancient cell phone. Anyway, another hole in the Downer-Papadopoulos story. Downer didn't send a report back to the home office in Australia about his meeting with Papadopoulos...instead he conveyed his information to the US Embassy in London. What happened then -- how the information was transmitted to the FBI -- is unknown. But now we know why Nunes in investigating the US State Department and its involvement with the the dossier/EC. It also explains why there is no Five Eyes official intel report in the EC about Papadopoulos.

Samantha Powers' role in this is fixing to expand
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I guess you haven't seen the new talking points? It is no longer about how they justified the investigation it's all about that it was the right thing to do. Three or four posters have said something along the lines "you guys are so worried about how they justified when you should be worried about how the campaign was so shady that it was needed."
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Justice delayed, is justice denied.

Our own DOJ has been the worst of tjem all delaying, delaying like nobody's business.
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I can't post this as it's paywalled, but I can read it in my ancient cell phone. Anyway, another hole in the Downer-Papadopoulos story. Downer didn't send a report back to the home office in Australia about his meeting with Papadopoulos...instead he conveyed his information to the US Embassy in London. What happened then -- how the information was transmitted to the FBI -- is unknown. But now we know why Nunes in investigating the US State Department and its involvement with the the dossier/EC. It also explains why there is no Five Eyes official intel report in the EC about Papadopoulos.


Edit: Here is an image of the relevant part of the article:



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By Kimberley A. Strassel
May 31, 2018 7:24 p.m. ET

To hear the Federal Bureau of Investigation tell it, its decision to launch a counterintelligence probe into a major-party presidential campaign comes down to a foreign tip about a 28-year-old fourth-tier Trump adviser, George Papadopoulos.

The FBI's media scribes have dutifully reported the bare facts of that "intel." We are told the infamous tip came from Alexander Downer, at the time the Australian ambassador to the U.K. Mr. Downer invited Mr. Papadopoulos for a drink in early May 2016, where the aide told the ambassador the Russians had dirt on Hillary Clinton. Word of this encounter at some point reached the FBI, inspiring it to launch its counterintelligence investigation into the Trump campaign on July 31.

Notably (nay, suspiciously) absent or muddled are the details of how and when that information made its way to the FBI, and what exactly was transmitted. A December 2017 New York Times story vaguely explains that the Australians passed the info to "American counterparts" about "two months later," and that once it "reached the FBI," the bureau acted. Even the Times admits it's "not clear" why it took the Aussies so long to flip such a supposedly smoking tip. The story meanwhile slyly leads readers to believe that Mr. Papadopoulos told Mr. Downer that Moscow had "thousands of emails," but read it closely and the Times in fact never specifies what the Trump aide said, beyond "dirt."

When Mr. Downer ended his service in the U.K. this April, he sat for an interview with the Australian, a national newspaper, and "spoke for the first time" about the Papadopoulos event. Mr. Downer said he officially reported the Papadopoulos meeting back to Australia "the following day or a day or two after," as it "seemed quite interesting." The story nonchalantly notes that "after a period of time, Australia's ambassador to the US, Joe Hockey, passed the information on to Washington."

My reporting indicates otherwise. A diplomatic source tells me Mr. Hockey neither transmitted any information to the FBI nor was approached by the U.S. about the tip. Rather, it was Mr. Downer who at some point decided to convey his informationto the U.S. Embassy in London.

That matters because it is not how things are normally done. The U.S. is part of Five Eyes, an intelligence network that includes the U.K., Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The Five Eyes agreement provides that any intelligence goes through the intelligence system of the country that gathered it. This helps guarantee information is securely handled, subjected to quality control, and not made prey to political manipulation. Mr. Downer's job was to report his meeting back to Canberra, and leave it to Australian intelligence. We also know that it wasn't Australian intelligence that alerted the FBI. The document that launched the FBI probe contains no foreign intelligence whatsoever. So if Australian intelligence did receive the Downer info, it didn't feel compelled to act on it.

But the Obama State Department didand its involvement is news. The Downer details landed with the embassy's then-charg d'affaires, Elizabeth Dibble, who previously served as a principal deputy assistant secretary in Mrs. Clinton's State Department.

When did all this happen, and what came next? Did the info go straight to U.S. intelligence? Or did it instead filter to the wider State Department team, who we already know were helping foment Russia-Trump conspiracy theories? Jonathan Winer, a former deputy assistant secretary of state, has publicly admitted to communicating in the summer of 2016 with his friend Christopher Steele, author of the infamous dossier.

I was unable to reach Mr. Downer for comment and do not know why he chose to go to the embassy. A conservative politician, he was Australia's longest-serving foreign minister (1996-2007). Sources speculate that he might have felt his many contacts justified reaching out himself.

Meanwhile, something doesn't gel between Mr. Downer's account of the conversation and the FBI's. In his Australian interview, Mr. Downer said Mr. Papadopolous didn't give specifics. "He didn't say dirt, he said material that could be damaging to her," said Mr. Downer. "He didn't say what it was." Also: "Nothing he said in that conversation indicated Trump himself had been conspiring with the Russians to collect information on Hillary Clinton."

For months we've been told the FBI acted because it was alarmed that Mr. Papadopoulos knew about those hacked Democratic emails in May, before they became public in June. But according to the tipster himself, Mr. Papadopoulos said nothing about emails. The FBI instead received a report that a far-removed campaign adviser, over drinks, said the Russians had something that might be "damaging" to Hillary. Did this vague statement justify a counterintelligence probe into a presidential campaign, featuring a spy and secret surveillance warrants?

Unlikely. Which leads us back to what did inspire the FBI to act, and when? The Papadopoulos pretext is getting thinner.
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