Gowdy is now saying that a second special counsel is unavoidable given the known facts.

Mr Magoo is not going to like this one bit.

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I never considered the subpoena limitations of Horowitz, but he could be granted the power I suppose as granting him prosecutorial powers as well. That would eliminate their concern, if that's their only concern.

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No can do, muchacho. The powers of the Inspector General's office are set out and limited by statute.

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SO he would have to be appointed an actual special counsel, and then choose his investigators from the DOJ of which his department is a part of correct?

Yes.

He can't do it as IG.

The system is broken
- because this happened in the first place based on phony information
- because it's taking so long to punish the wrong doers and get to the bottom
- because interfering with free elections - treason - isn't properly punished by public firing squad

Keep poking that bee hive, statists. The reckoning is coming.

And if he refuses or takes no action?

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And if he refuses or takes no action?

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Trump has to fire him. No choice at that point. And then fires Rosenstein, if he refuses to appoint one.

This isn't political by this point. It is about an FBI and DOJ that were (are maybe still are) OOC.

I'm having a hard time figuring out where Sessions head is. There's something strange going on, and I get the feeling Rosenstein is calling all the shots.

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I never considered the subpoena limitations of Horowitz, but he could be granted the power I suppose as granting him prosecutorial powers as well. That would eliminate their concern, if that's their only concern.

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Might be the answer we've all been looking for on why no one is being fired from the doj and fbi. Horowitz wouldn't be able to interview them.

Trump:

"As Attorney General Session's recusal has left the DOJ incapable and impotent in the investigation of criminal activity by the previous administration in both the FBI and DOJ it is now my duty under the Constitution to replace him with someone who will bring those perpetrators to justice."

Sara Carters latest -- nothing new IMO. Reiterates the buddy-buddy sequence: Hillary's buddy Sidney Blumnethal passed the Cody Shearer second-dossier to his long-time-buddy Jonathan Winer at the State Department; Winer, a long time DOS employee and buddy of John Kerry, passed the second dossier up channels in the DOS as well as shared it with his buddy Christopher Steele. The second dossier also had an account of a Trump Russian sex-escapade just like the Steele dossier. Sort of reminds me of 12 year old boys passing around a Playboy magazine.

Jonathan Winer (of second dossier fame), Employment Timeline

1985-1994: Chief Counsel & Legislative Assistant to Senator John Kerry

1994-2000: Dep Asst Sec, Law Enforcement/Crime, US Department of State

2000-2008: Of Counsel, Alston & Bird

2008-2013: Vice President, APCO Worldwide Inc.

2013-2016: Special Envoy for Libya, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, US Department of State


Know anything about APCO Worldwide? Isn't it a coincidence that APCO Worldwide is a major lobbying company, and who do you think they represented in 2010 while Winer was VP? Tenex = Uranium One! Below is a short thread about APCO & Uranium One.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/961449983022190592.html

All criminal roads in this saga lead to Hillary Clinton.

Second special counsel, come on down...

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And if he refuses or takes no action?

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I'll fly in to D.C., pull him up by his underwear and then parade him around the national mall while everyone has a good laugh.

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Second special counsel, come on down...

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Third Special Counsel. That one would investigate Mueller's actions, too.

This really is getting to be a game of chess. When one Special Counsel gets indicted by another...checkmate.

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How about give Mueller a deal and let him wear a white hat instead of an orange jumpsuit?

I just want to see Duck giving our AG a wedgie, and see how many cover it!

It's likely there will be memes on that forever!

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Who is a Soros, Rothchild puppet.

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Second special counsel, come on down...

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Third Special Counsel. That one would investigate Mueller's actions, too.

This really is getting to be a game of chess. When one Special Counsel gets indicted by another...checkmate.

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How about give Mueller a deal and let him wear a white hat instead of an orange jumpsuit?

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I wonder if this already happen about a year ago.

Apropos of nothing, listening to Sessions speak right now is giving me a headache. Rapidly beginning to hate this guy.

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Apropos of nothing, listening to Sessions speak right now is giving me a headache. Rapidly beginning to hate this guy.

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Can you just imagine his closing arguments in a trial. Like watching paint dry

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I just want to see Duck giving our AG a wedgie, and see how many cover it!

It's likely there will be memes on that forever!

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Depends facilitate poor wedgies.

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Apropos of nothing, listening to Sessions speak right now is giving me a headache. Rapidly beginning to hate this guy.

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Radio check. 'Viper' to 'Mr Magoo.' Bandits on your tail and at your 3 and 6 ... making monkey-faces and yelling "nana-nana-poo-poo, 'yo mama wears Russian army boots." Rules of engagement are not for your protection ... engage a second SC immediately. How copy?

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Turning up the heat

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About freakin' time.

Now we just need DoS to turn over Benghazi douments as well.

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Turning up the heat

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About freakin' time.

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Yep, can't wait for that racist to go down.

So Sessions has appointed somebody to look into the possibility of appointing a SC. Hmmm... I think that is what it means.

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Sessions: "I have appointed a person outside of Washington, many years in the Department of Justice, to look at all the allegations that the House Judiciary Committee members sent to us and we're conducting that investigation."

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OMG ... this man need to be drawn and quartered and national TV.

Everyone upset that Sessions is moving slow needs to calm down.

Sessions has the goods on FBI/Clinton corruption, but he's proceeding methodically to ensure there is no appearance of prosecuting political opponents. Any slip up and the left will be crying witch hunt!

e.g. He's not going to appoint a special counsel. He's going to appoint a neutral party to recommend appointing a special counsel.

In today's political world, a neutral party is an exceedingly rare animal.

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Everyone upset that Sessions is moving slow needs to calm down.

Sessions has the goods on FBI/Clinton corruption, but he's proceeding methodically to ensure there is no appearance of prosecuting political opponents. Any slip up and the left will be crying witch hunt!

e.g. He's not going to appoint a special counsel. He's going to appoint a neutral party to recommend appointing a special counsel.

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I'm ok only if it moves quickly. Which I have my doubts about. It takes Sessions an hour to order a ham sandwich.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/6/17083720/trump-russia-news-nastya-rybka

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The escort claiming to have tapes proving Russian interference in the US election, explained

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...Back in early August 2016, at the height of the US presidential campaign, the oligarch, Oleg Deripaska, and the deputy Russian prime minister, Sergei Prikhodko, took a multi-day yacht trip together off the coast of Norway. They invited several high-end escorts along for the trip, including Anastasia Vashukevich of Belarus, who was about 19 years old at the time.

Vashukevich, a frequent social media user, Instagrammed her trip, posting photos and video, apparently unbeknownst to the two men. In one video snippet she posted as part of a montage several months later, the men talk United States relations, and Deripaska says the following (according to a translation provided in Navalny's video):

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We've got bad relations with America, because the friend of Sergey Eduardovich [Prikhodko], Nuland's her name, is responsible for them. When she was your age, she's spent a month on a Russian whaling boat. She hates our country after this. Why is that?

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The "she" is in reference to Victoria Nuland, who was President Obama's top State Department official overseeing Russian relations and was loathed by many in the Russian government (a diplomatically embarrassing private conversation she had was once taped and leaked). In and of itself, Deripaska's remark here is hardly a bombshell but it does tell us that Deripaska was willing to talk about such topics in front of Vashukevich....

The Times's Richard Paddock then interviewed the detained Vashukevich this week, and she claimed she had more than 16 hours of audio recordings from her trip with Deripaska and Prikhodko. "If America gives me protection, I will tell everything I know," she said. "I am afraid to go back to Russia. Some strange things can happen."

"They were discussing elections," she went on. "Deripaska had a plan about elections." And she claimed they had conversations with three people who spoke English fluently and who she thought were Americans. (Again, we don't know whether this is true or self-serving.)...

So when the badly indebted Manafort got a high-profile job advising Trump's presidential campaign in March 2016, Manafort saw an opportunity. He emailed his business associate Konstantin Kilimnik in early April about his newly high media profile, writing, "How do we use to get whole," and "Has OVD operation seen?" (These are Deripaska's initials.)...

Kilimnik and Manafort arranged a meeting in New York City to discuss the matter on August 2 Kilimnik wrote that he had a "long caviar story" to tell and "several important messages." They have claimed this meeting was unrelated to the US presidential campaign. (Update: And according to flight records newly reviewed by Scott Stedman, a private jet owned by Deripaska flew in to Newark airport the very next day before departing the US that night. We don't yet know if the oligarch himself was on it.)

Deripaska took the now-infamous yacht trip with Russia's deputy prime minister a few days after this.

Manafort, unexpectedly, didn't end up lasting much longer on the Trump campaign he was fired on August 19. But there are still a great many questions about what, exactly, happened between him, Kilimnik, and Deripaska beforehand....

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I think there may be something to this story. This Belarus chick was apparently Deripaska's bedmate for the yacht trip, explaining how she was able to make the recordings. The media is salivating that the recorded Deripaska conversations were with Manafort & friends (& possibly Kilimnik), and that this will lead to Russian collusion with Trump. However, I am suspicious that she recorded Deripaska speaking with Steele and Waldman (& possibly Kilimnik). Perhaps it's a combination of both: Manafort, Steele & Waldman. Recommend you read the article; it's long, but one of this gal's recordings caused lots of problems in Russia, and that is why she doesn't want to go back.