Such a grand old thread...

A raise back to page 1...

There better be some arrests and indictments soon or the Q thread is going to surpass this one in pages.

aggiehawg said:

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SeMgCo87 said:

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Such a grand old thread...

A raise back to page 1...

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This thread is dead for now. How Sullivan is still a judge at this point proves my point that our judiciary completely sucks.

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Sullivan's "article" dropping the case after Trump pardoned Flynn was exceptionally awful. I only read about half, but Sullivan seemed so vitriolic. In fact, it read quite a bit like a political statement, and I'll never forget it.

The fact that he just skimmed over any, and all exculpatory evidence before, during, and after, the trial was pretty remarkable. I was so positive the law (as explained to me by so many kind folks here) was going to win the day. Just another in a long line of my dead republic confirmation.

I miss this thread because of the insights and information provided along the way.

I'm very concerned about the future of information, research, and well, the truth going forward.

They were able to convince millions of people this man was a Russian agent and till the bitter end be defended. As a curious person, I suppose it's time to dig in deeper.

Also if anyone would like to discuss going through this thread and writing a chronicle of this tale, I'm more than game. This is a story that deserves to be told and the digging and insight here would greatly improve any such effort.

valvemonkey91 said:

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There better be some arrests and indictments soon or the Q thread is going to surpass this one in pages.

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If the S doesn't hit the fan on Jan 6, the Q thread will be dead.

MooreTrucker said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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There better be some arrests and indictments soon or the Q thread is going to surpass this one in pages.

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If the S doesn't hit the fan on Jan 6, the Q thread will be dead.

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Neither this thread, nor the Qanon thread, were really intended to last even THIS long.

I have to agree with Hawg, sadly, on this and the Qanon thread, the state of our Federal Judicial System is heartbreaking.

Perhaps Thomas Jefferson was right, "The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, by the blood of patriots."

Alright, here's something I think this thread can discuss and argue.

Hawg, you can step on me quick if I'm out of line...

SOS of Georgia recorded a conversation with Trump, without his knowledge or consent...SOS indicated even he didn't know, although I heard a report earlier that said SOS aids indicated that, "it may prove useful".

All from FOX...

My question is, I thought that recording a telephone conversation without permission is a felony...

Should they charge and perp walk the SOS and his Staff? TODAY, if not storm his house with 1,000 man SWAT force tomorrow morning at 5:00 am.

Go ahead, make my day...

SeMgCo87 said:

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Alright, here's something I think this thread can discuss and argue.

Hawg, you can step on me quick if I'm out of line...

SOS of Georgia recorded a conversation with Trump, without his knowledge or consent...SOS indicated even he didn't know, although I heard a report earlier that said SOS aids indicated that, "it may prove useful".

All from FOX...

My question is, I thought that recording a telephone conversation without permission is a felony...

Should they charge and perp walk the SOS and his Staff? TODAY, if not storm his house with 1,000 man SWAT force tomorrow morning at 5:00 am.

Go ahead, make my day...

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I thought that recording a telephone conversation without permission is a felony...

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In Georgia, it is not.

there was no "illegal release" of the call.

Usually that is a state-by-state question whether it is legal or not. Don't know what the status of Georgia law is.

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there was no "illegal release" of the call.

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Legal or illegal makes no difference. If it's true it was released, it tells us all we need to know.

What do you mean if it's true? It was released.

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What do you mean if it's true? It was released.

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I haven't confirmed for myself that it's true. I'm just reading the thread. Thus the "if".

If the beginning of the call included a discussion about the call being confidential for the purposes of lawsuit settlement.....

Then nothing illegal occurred, BUT, Rafsenburger's counsel could be sanctioned pretty good. And should be. With court backlogs, settlements are encouraged, and processes to move toward settlements, like this phone call, are protected pretty fiercely by judges. Judges don't want their dockets any more cluttered than they already are.

Under what theory would they be sanctioned?

Even if this was a settlement discussion, which I highly doubt it was based on what I read, There is nothing in the rules that makes that confidential or protected

I agree it would be extremely bad form for an attorney to do that and he would definitely be viewed in a bad light for the entire case and in future cases by the judge and other attorneys, but I don't see a basis for sanctions

GA is a one party state. If Raffenburger(as he stated) didn't know and Trump didn't know, but was recorded by a third party, is it legal?

SeMgCo87 said:

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Alright, here's something I think this thread can discuss and argue.

Hawg, you can step on me quick if I'm out of line...

SOS of Georgia recorded a conversation with Trump, without his knowledge or consent...SOS indicated even he didn't know, although I heard a report earlier that said SOS aids indicated that, "it may prove useful".

All from FOX...

My question is, I thought that recording a telephone conversation without permission is a felony...

Should they charge and perp walk the SOS and his Staff? TODAY, if not storm his house with 1,000 man SWAT force tomorrow morning at 5:00 am.

Go ahead, make my day...

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Georgia is a one-party state, meaning an individual can record a conversation as long as they are party to the conversation. So you can record a conversation with your boss without their knowledge and it can be used as evidence. You cannot record others conversations you are not a party to.

With regards to it being "confidential" I am not sure you can hold them to it if Trump first broke the agreement. Trump of all people should know by now he is a target every time he speaks. The actions of the SoS shouldn't be a surprise. At the end of the day, this is a repeat of the Ukraine call to some extent. The anti-trump are going to run with it the same way regardless.

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Should have released all of it unredacted long ago, I am guessing it is too late.

MooreTrucker said:

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valvemonkey91 said:

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There better be some arrests and indictments soon or the Q thread is going to surpass this one in pages.

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If the S doesn't hit the fan on Jan 6, the Q thread will be dead.

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there is the Mil option. can be used just about any time, even after the 20th...

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GA is a one party state. If Raffenburger(as he stated) didn't know and Trump didn't know, but was recorded by a third party, is it legal?

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Yes; the person recording it knew. DC law also allows this similarly.

Don't know if this will be seen elsewhere...

will25u said:

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Don't know if this will be seen elsewhere...

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All part of the plan to remove Biden and install Harris, who was always the DNC's choice, but is disliked by almost everyone.

will25u said:

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Don't know if this will be seen elsewhere...

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That's nice and all but all of those federal prosecutors will be fired in two weeks. Biden will obstruct them with impunity since Dems control both houses.

He's a troll. He's wrong all the time.

Justice is a joke in this country

will25u said:

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Don't know if this will be seen elsewhere...

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There's still time to appoint an independent counsel. Now that Biden is officially elected by the EC, and Barr is out of the way, it should be easy to do/justify, and in a sane world the press would demand Biden confirm he won't fire this person...but, sane world? LOL.

We live in la-la land.

The I-talains seem to be front in center now in this mess. It appears that a government watchdog org in the US has a senior IT worker with a defense contractor firm in Italy who has gone on record with what has happened regarding uploading of software via a military satellite.

One of those rare Q/Mueller mergers again. Weren't the Italians in on the spying of Trump as well?

Edit to add video link:

I'm in the process of waving goodbye to this investigation. It's been really interesting to confirm what a lot of folks have suspected about the way the intelligence community works behind the scenes, particularly in how they try to influence the politicians. But I think all the sources of information are going to dry up in 13 days, and none of the bad actors documented throughout this thread will be brought to account.

Disappointing, but it is what it is.