Shooting in Las Vegas

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On page 43 of the report linked above, it says he had a laptop hooked up to the hotel hallway surveillance cams. He just hacked into the system? On his own?

Edit - nevermind....it was hooked up to the surveillance cams he installed. "Hotel" is striked out above now...
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Couldn't they have just left out the child pron thing? That just puts me right on the conspiracy bandwagon
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lunchbox said:

On page 43 of the report linked above, it says he had a laptop hooked up to the hotel hallway surveillance cams. He just hacked into the system? On his own?

Edit - nevermind....it was hooked up to the surveillance cams he installed. "Hotel" is striked out above now...

Correct....was about to reply.... to "his" hallway security cams.

Easily pre configured too.

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Maybe he did convert and this was ISIS inspired???
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Roy coy said:


IDAGG,

Not exactly sure what "proof" you are expecting. The FBI/LVPD still has a lot to "prove".

I fully expect you to parse every video and put it up against the the highest level of scrutiny. But there are many videos and peoples accounts of that night that are saying multiple shooters up and down the strip that night. Maybe those people are all conspiracy nut jobs because we all know our government is not capable of doing such an inhumane act.

I personally think our govt is capable and I hope many of their deeds get exposed in the coming year.


From page 31 of the just released report:

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As officers cleared the Las Vegas Village, multiple reports of active shooters along Las Vegas Boulevard at various hotel properties were broadcasted. Several officers from the exterior Las Vegas Village posts joined Strike Teams and left to address those reports. As the active shooter reports were cleared and determined to be unfounded, officers assigned to the Las Vegas Village responded back to the command post for reassignment
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Wozlaw said:

Maybe he did convert and this was ISIS inspired???

He sure kept quiet about his conversion if he did
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Amazing amount he hauled up there:

Sept. 25th
he then drove his vehicle from self-park to valet5 , and returned to the front desk with five suitcase bags.
At approximately 1656 hours, a bellman met Paddock and escorted him to room 32-135. Paddock requested to go through the service elevators and not through the guest elevators. According to interviews, this request is not uncommon for guests of the hotel. Paddock rolled one bag and a bellman used a luggage cart for the other four bags.

Sept 26th
From approximately 2245 to 2252 hours, Paddock valeted his vehicle at Mandalay Bay and took six suitcases (located on a luggage cart) and one rolling suitcase (Paddock rolled the suitcase himself) up to room 32-135 by way of the service elevator with help of a bellman. (The bellman who escorted Paddock on the September 25th was different than the bellman who escorted Paddock on the September 26th.)

Sept. 27th - 2 rolling suitcases are taken out
At approximately 2003 hours, Paddock was seen in the valet area of Mandalay Bay with two rolling suitcases. Paddock had his vehicle removed from valet and left the Mandalay Bay at approximately 2015 hours

Sept 28th - looks like the same 2 rolling suitcases return
From approximately 2042 to 2146 hours, Paddock traveled from Mesquite, Nevada to the Mandalay Bay and parked in valet. Paddock was seen entering the Mandalay Bay with two rolling suitcases and a laptop bag.

Sept. 30th
At approximately 0556 hours, Paddock returned to the Mandalay Bay with four suitcases

And then a trip to the car and back it appears with 2 rolling bags
At approximately 1512 hours, Paddock was observed exiting the parking garage elevator with two suitcase rolling bags.
At approximately 1520 hours, Paddock was seen in a guest elevator with the two rolling suitcases and took them to his room.

October 1st
At approximately 1229 hours, Paddock was observed waiting for an elevator with two rolling suitcases. There was also a third bag hanging from one of the rolling suitcases.


Total of 21 suitcases or rolling duffel bags and a laptop bag and hanging bag.





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lunchbox said:

Has this been posted?

https://www.lvmpd.com/en-us/Documents/1_October_FIT_Report_01-18-2018_Footnoted.pdf

Wow, I had never seen any of those pictures before.

Edit: Also it looks as though he was trying to get a room in the adjacent 200s wing of the hotel and was internally assigned the 100s instead.
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I'm up to September 30th and exhausted just reading the timeline.
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agent-maroon said:

Wozlaw said:

Maybe he did convert and this was ISIS inspired???

He sure kept quiet about his conversion if he did
From what we've seen, he kept quiet about everything.
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What's the blue hose with the snorkel?
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Here is a short clip from CNN where a reporter at the press conference details what the sheriff said about the other suspect. The tl;dr summary is:
- Mary Lou Daniels will probably not be charge
- Paddock was the only shooter
- Another person of interest in under Federal investigation
- He can't talk about it because of "Federal Grand Jury rules" so obviously there is a Federal Grand Jury empaneled.
- She asked if an indictment was imminent "like in the next 60 days" and he replied "yes".

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/01/19/vegas-shooting-sheriff-person-of-interest-sidner-lkl-nr.cnn
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who?mikejones said:

What's the blue hose with the snorkel?
That was weird. With a fan on the end of the hose I thought maybe he was going to hang it out a window if he got tear gassed, but it would be easier (and more effective) to just buy an army surplus gas mask. So no idea what the heck that was for.
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The internet searches are interesting and seem to undercut political motivation. Searches for rowded beaches and largest open air concert vsnues. Seems that Santa Monica beach on Memorial Day weekend had his attention (googling how crowded it gets memorial day weekend, etc). Also looked into the Life is Beautiful festival.

Doesn't really seem to be anything ideological. Overall, just seems that the tactical factor of "what venue would provide the most fish in a barrel?" was the key in target selection.
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GCP12 said:

Couldn't they have just left out the child pron thing? That just puts me right on the conspiracy bandwagon

Conspiracy nuts find a way to keep up their beliefs.
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GCP12 said:

Couldn't they have just left out the child pron thing? That just puts me right on the conspiracy bandwagon

Exactly. Especially since the alleged CP was allegedly "found" on the hard drive they previously stated was missing
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who?mikejones said:

What's the blue hose with the snorkel?
Didn't see what it was attached to, but I think it is safe to assume it was to combat the affects of gas if it was used by SWAT teams.
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Who da **** is that?
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The Butcher of the Somme?
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/new-person-interest-named-las-vegas-massacre-article-1.3788369

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"Until the investigation can rule otherwise, Marilou Danley and Douglas Haig have become persons of interest who may have conspired with Stephen Paddock to commit Murder with a Deadly Weapon," the Metropolitan Police Department document read, according to the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

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"I know and believe there was only suspect who killed 58 people and injured hundreds more," Lombardo said. "All the evidence recovered in this case supports that Theory. There was one shooter in the 1 October massacre. There was only one person responsible, and that was Stephen Paddock.
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This guy? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-haig-a0384791

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Senior research and design engineer for advanced small arms ammunition. Extensive background in development of tracer and incendiary small arms ammunition for DoD and law enforcement tactical use.
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DannyDuberstein said:

The internet searches are interesting and seem to undercut political motivation. Searches for rowded beaches and largest open air concert vsnues. Seems that Santa Monica beach on Memorial Day weekend had his attention (googling how crowded it gets memorial day weekend, etc). Also looked into the Life is Beautiful festival.

Doesn't really seem to be anything ideological. Overall, just seems that the tactical factor of "what venue would provide the most fish in a barrel?" was the key in target selection.
The fact he was a big gambler also meant LV was likely the most familiar to him and made the most sense logistically.
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Yeah, he appeared to look around elsewhere, but I would imagine his familiarity with LV played a significant part in it becoming his eventual choice.
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Now they are in on the conspiracy. Will it ever stop?
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tsuag10 said:

This guy? https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-haig-a0384791

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Senior research and design engineer for advanced small arms ammunition. Extensive background in development of tracer and incendiary small arms ammunition for DoD and law enforcement tactical use.

Interesting. Would seem to fit a narrative that has been brought up repeatedly.
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Douglas Haig Speaks:


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Police believe Douglas Haig may have conspired with gunman Stephen Paddock, but it's unclear if he's still under investigation. Haig sold Paddock ammunition the month before the October attack that killed 58 people dead and wounded hundreds of others.

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Haig was contacted one day after the attack, after investigators found an Amazon box with his address on it inside Paddock's hotel room, reports CBS News correspondent Mireya Villarreal. But Haig says he had no idea what Paddock was planning to do when he met him just a few weeks before the massacre.

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Haig says he sold Paddock 720 rounds of ammunition from Haig's home gun business.

"I couldn't detect anything wrong with this guy," he said. "He told me exactly what he wanted. I handed him a box with the ammunition in it, and he paid me and he left."

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The rounds he sold are called "tracer ammunition" bullets that leave a visible trail when fired.

"He said he was going to go put on a light show. And I can't remember whether he said for or with his friends, but that's what he did say," Haig said.

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"I felt that they were hoping that they could find a connection between myself and Paddock, that would go back showing that I supplied him with most of his ammunition, possibly even some firearms," Haig said. "They're not gonna find it. I talked to the guy three times."

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Haig does not blame himself, but within weeks of the massacre, he still decided to shut down his business.

"I'm still racking my brain for what did I miss. Why didn't I pick this up?" he said.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/las-vegas-shooting-second-person-of-interest-revealed-douglas-haig-speaks-out/
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MESA, AZ - An Arizona man who sold ammunition to the gunman in the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history was charged Friday with manufacturing armor-piercing bullets, according to court documents obtained by The Associated Press.

Unfired armor-piercing bullets found inside the Las Vegas hotel room where the attack was launched on Oct. 1 contained the fingerprints of ammunition dealer Douglas Haig of Arizona, according to the complaint filed in federal court in Phoenix. It says Haig didn't have a license to manufacture armor-piercing ammunition.

The records don't say if the ammunition was used in the attack. Haig was charged shortly before holding a news conference Friday where he said didn't notice anything suspicious when he sold 720 rounds of ammunition to Stephen Paddock in the weeks before the attack that killed 58 people.

Haig, a 55-year-old aerospace engineer who sold ammunition as a hobby for about 25 years, said he met Paddock at a Phoenix gun show in the weeks before the shooting and he was well-dressed and polite.
https://www.abc15.com/news/region-southeast-valley/mesa/mesa-man-arrested-for-selling-ammo-to-las-vegas-shooter
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Just posting this FWIW. No clue if it's true, obviously.



https://medium.com/@ConsciousOptix/stephen-paddock-autopsy-reveals-time-of-death-at-1200-hours-noon-the-next-day-facba330c1f3
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On February 9, 2018, late in the afternoon on a Friday, the Associated Press (AP) released the original PDF of Stephen Paddock's autopsy results by linking to it in one of their articles. Rather quickly, within an hour or two, the autopsy report was spiked out of the article. Subsequent coverage by news outlets have covered the bombshell report by focusing on anti-anxiety medication being found in Paddock's system, and how the autopsy reveals no clues on motive.

Either these news outlets have not seen the autopsy results, or they are boldly lying to their respective audiences. Coupling this with the fact that, somehow, the AP, who sued for the autopsy results, had to remove the most important part of their would-have-been-bombshell-article to appease what appears to be the law enforcement agencies tasked with investigating the worst mass shooting in modern U.S. history, is not only mind-blowing but demonstrates the AP's complicity in covering-up the truth. At the time of writing this, no news organization mainstream or alternative has officially covered this story.

What is being hidden from the public, and this appears to be the explanation as to why law enforcement has fought tooth and nail to not have Paddock's autopsy results publicly released, is Paddock's Time Of Death his Time Of Death is 1200 hours (Noon) on 10/2/17; that is the day after the shooting, and approximately fourteen hours after the shooting into Route 91 ceased.
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Whoa
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Y'all still on this ?
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lb3 said:

Nothing to see here. Time of death is determined by when the coroner does the report.
Doesn't the coroner estimate an actual time though or is that just a TV trope?
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