And here is an interesting story already about the above:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/17/reconciling-the-confusion-jesus-jose-campos-missing-is-campos-an-illegal-alien/#more-140017

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Reconciling The Confusion: Jesus "Jose" Campos Missing Is Campos an Illegal Alien?

If Jesus "Jose" Campos is indeed an illegal alien almost all of the challenging and conflicting reports from law enforcement, Mandalay Bay and the FBI begin to reconcile.

Think about it. The legal risk to MGM as a corporation, and Mandalay Bay hotel and Casino specifically, becomes transparent if their employment verification standards would allow an illegal alien to find a job as a security guard.

This would explain the local and national concerns within the larger political and national security apparatus.

Think about how dramatically the national conversation could shift if the FBI and Department of Homeland Security had to admit the security of thousands of people in Las Vegas was compromised by non secure hiring practices.

This would also explain why Campos was unarmed; he would not pass a state or federal background check to carry a firearm. Was Jose Campos in fear of his status being discovered? Did this delay or impede his action on Sunday night October 1st?

CTH has noted for a considerable amount of time that the larger hotel and hospitality industry is fraught with illegal aliens. Imagine if this event forced major corporate hotel chains to check or re-verify employment eligibility of their employees. It would be chaos in that industry; they would lose thousands of employees.

How many Mis-Matched Social Security number notifications (from the IRS) has MGM Resorts and the Mandalay Bay Hotel received over the past two years? The answer to that question expands the liability of the parent company exponentially.

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Well, well....

Meh, that doesn't explain this level of crazy.

The story is dying down and losing audience.

This will fade away and we will never know the truth because this will forever be an "ongoing investigation". As people lose interest and leaks stop, it then reaches what the FBI wanted... an event that only conspiracy theory types discuss because authorities buried the evidence/truth well enough.

How long before the lawsuits begin.
Casino is in full CYA mode

Now THAT is the picture of controlling the narrative

84AGEC said:

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How long before the lawsuits begin.
Casino is in full CYA mode

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I do believe that the lawsuits started earlier in this thread. In all honesty though, this will settle outside of court. It'll be expensive but much less than you'd think. Now if one of the performing artists or any other major actor in Vegas sues it would get really interesting

drcrinum said:

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I think I am going to vomit.

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GTFOH....
Democrat city.
Democrat Union.
Democrat company.
Democrat show.

drcrinum said:

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I think I am going to vomit.

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Wait, what?! Really? This world has officially gone bat **** crazy.

Archduke Franz Ferdinand is calling.

TAMUallen said:

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Meh, that doesn't explain this level of crazy.

The story is dying down and losing audience.

This will fade away and we will never know the truth because this will forever be an "ongoing investigation". As people lose interest and leaks stop, it then reaches what the FBI wanted... an event that only conspiracy theory types discuss because authorities buried the evidence/truth well enough.

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The best explanation is an anti-gun activist trying to advance his narrative with his "exit" --- possibly also motivated by some dragnet closing in on him for smuggling or some similar trafficking contraband. The best indicator of the `anti' part is the target -- its not the left you need to persuade to disarm and be supine, but the right.

Or you can just go with the literal crazy, but even Oswald was almost certainly politically motivated by his Marxism, and wouldn't have been shooting just any target leader.

Yes, of course. In a new suit/shirt with Johnny Cash at his side

Edit: both with fresh haircuts too. Friggin pony show ****

drcrinum said:

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I think I am going to vomit.

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so he was missing in Ellen's closet?

does ellen pay for interviews?

unmade bed said:

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So the "missing" "illegal alien" "second shooter" was taping a show with Ellen today?

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And I guess this means there was no "FBI ordered" gag order put on Campos by Mandalay Bay. I was hopeful that truepundit.com had quit making up sources after the Hillary/NYPD deal, but i guess they couldn't resist the clicks.

unmade bed said:

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unmade bed said:

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So the "missing" "illegal alien" "second shooter" was taping a show with Ellen today?

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And I guess this means there was no "FBI ordered" gag order put on Campos by Mandalay Bay. I was hopeful that truepundit.com had quit making up sources after the Hillary/NYPD deal, but i guess they couldn't resist the clicks.

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If you think this makes more sense than interviews with even fake news then you are crazy

TAMUallen said:

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unmade bed said:

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unmade bed said:

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So the "missing" "illegal alien" "second shooter" was taping a show with Ellen today?

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And I guess this means there was no "FBI ordered" gag order put on Campos by Mandalay Bay. I was hopeful that truepundit.com had quit making up sources after the Hillary/NYPD deal, but i guess they couldn't resist the clicks.

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If you think this makes more sense than interviews with even fake news then you are crazy

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No idea why they would appear on Ellen. Maybe she is gonna give them free *****

But after days of wild ass theories that this guy was dead and his corpse was posed with union members at a dinner or that he had gone missing and possibly fled the country, or that he was a illegal alien who MGM was trying keep out of the spotlight, or that MGM had put some kind of "gag order" on him and his family, I'm not sure I would really consider someone "crazy" for not thinking the Ellen appearance is yet another cryptic piece of some massive conspiracy.

I can think of several scenarios regarding the Ellen interview:

1) MB &/or the Union wanted to control the narrative, meaning they needed a non-confrontational interview where no embarrassing questions were asked. Having a taped interview with prior negotiations covering limitations and prohibitions would be the best environment. (Embarrassing questions might be several of the following: Did you have any interaction with Paddock prior to the shooting? Did you shoot Paddock? Do you hold a green card? Are you a US citizen? Do you have a valid social security number? Do you have a permit to carry a gun? Have you ever purchased a gun? Are you a licensed security guard in the State of Nevada? When did you join the union?)

2) Campos wanted to be paid for any interviews. Perhaps the Union suggested this to him and then acted as his agent and shopped around.

3) Campos was actually very nervous about appearing by himself on Hannity, knowing that the latter can be overpowering or confrontational, and he actually experienced stage fright and chickened out...and then felt humiliated afterwards, making him go underground. (It's also possible Campos is not very fluent in English -- we will find out tomorrow...maybe.) Subsequently, having the opportunity to be interviewed alongside Schuck (whom he knew) in a 'friendly' atmosphere may have given him courage to appear in public.



At this point I am suspicious of whatever is going on and am going to question everything.

Looks like only one shaved his beard though...

I just took them a few days to find an FBI agent that looks just like Campos/ Tinfoilers

Ellen will ask "what happened?" and there won't be any follow up.

Proc92 said:

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Ellen will ask "what happened?" and there won't be any follow up.

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well..... hopefully they have a dance party.

Premium said:

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Hasn't he been "missing" for 3-4 days. And now all of a sudden he isn't missing. Maybe they removed his face and implanted it on someone else who will say and do exactly as the FBI and MGM want.

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And you thought I was joking. Sending them on Elen now.

agent-maroon said:

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Of all the things that could have happened with this story line, I can't imagine a bigger buzz kill than Campos choosing the freakin Ellen show for his first interview.

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All of these goings-on have been giving you a buzz?

Has the John guy who posted weeks before warning about vegas every pop back up?

primomosquito said:

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agent-maroon said:

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Of all the things that could have happened with this story line, I can't imagine a bigger buzz kill than Campos choosing the freakin Ellen show for his first interview.

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All of these goings-on have been giving you a buzz?

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I had the same question. I think this is common for a lot of the tinfoilers. They typically don't admit it, but they are actually excited about the story and prospects of a conspiracy. Post has 7 stars.

I still think this is one lone nutbag shooter combined with some less than ideal communication and early fact-finding between agencies and the public. And a casino that is worried about liablity since it was used as the shooter's perch.

DannyDuberstein said:

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primomosquito said:

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agent-maroon said:

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Of all the things that could have happened with this story line, I can't imagine a bigger buzz kill than Campos choosing the freakin Ellen show for his first interview.

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All of these goings-on have been giving you a buzz?

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I had the same question. I think this is common for a lot of the tinfoilers. They typically don't admit it, but they are actually excited about the story and prospects of a conspiracy. Post has 7 stars.

I still think this is one lone nutbag shooter combined with some less than ideal communication and early fact-finding between agencies and the public. And a casino that is worried about liablity since it was used as the shooter's perch.

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Agree 100%.

http://progressive-na.assetsadobe.com/warnerbros/_renditions_/bd3/bd376602-d094-45f1-856c-a07d7d7acbe7/avs/video--2728751654987218111-0x360-1116k.mp4


The infamous Jesus Campos taped interview. Softball. Totally scripted. No questions. Claimed not paid. At the end, PR for the NFL.

What do you mean no questions? He walked through the whole scenario with a picture of the floorplan and answered questions all along the way. It actually made a lot of sense to me. Did we watch the same video?

drcrinum said:

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http://progressive-na.assetsadobe.com/warnerbros/_renditions_/bd3/bd376602-d094-45f1-856c-a07d7d7acbe7/avs/video--2728751654987218111-0x360-1116k.mp4


The infamous Jesus Campos taped interview. Softball. Totally scripted. No questions. Claimed not paid. At the end, PR for the NFL.

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He just seems like a dude who's been traumatized and wants to be left alone.

Here was the scenario for those that didn't watch:

1) Gets called to a door ajar alarm
2) There are 2 doors to the stairwell - hallway door, vestibule, then actual stairwell door. He finds brackets on the stairwell door.
3) From the vestibule calls dispatch to ask about the brackets, maybe it's something maint was doing
4) While in the vestibule, he hears drilling.
5) He leaves the vestibule to enter the hallway via hallway door, and it's a heavy door, so it makes a fair amount of noise when it shuts. He thinks this may be what got Paddock's attention
6) He's walking down the hallway toward the elevator (opposite direction of Paddocks room) when shots come from behind him. He's hit in the leg
7) He encounters maint man that had been sent and some other lady and stops them from going down the hall.

It was like watching someone on People's Court walk through the scenario with a diagram and answer questions

DannyDuberstein said:

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Here was the scenario for those that didn't watch:

1) Gets called to a door ajar alarm
2) There are 2 doors to the stairwell - hallway door, vestiblue, then actual stairwell door. He finds brackets on the stairwell door.
3) From the vestibule calls dispatch to ask about the brackets, maybe it's something maint was doing
4) While in the vestibule, he hears drilling.
5) He leaves the vestibule to enter the hallway (allway door, and it's a heavy door, so it makes a fair amount of noise when it shuts. He thinks this may be what got Paddock's attention
6) He's walking down the hallway toward the elevator (opposite direction of Paddocks room) when shots come from behind him. He's hit in the leg
7) He encounters maint man that had been sent and some other lady and stops them from going down the hall.

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you left out one...

6.1 - he calls in to security where he mentions the shots fired...but neglects to mention he has been hit because he said he did not want to tie up the line so they could communicate for response, etc.

DannyDuberstein said:

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primomosquito said:

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agent-maroon said:

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Of all the things that could have happened with this story line, I can't imagine a bigger buzz kill than Campos choosing the freakin Ellen show for his first interview.

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All of these goings-on have been giving you a buzz?

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I had the same question. I think this is common for a lot of the tinfoilers. They typically don't admit it, but they are actually excited about the story and prospects of a conspiracy. Post has 7 stars.

I still think this is one lone nutbag shooter combined with some less than ideal communication and early fact-finding between agencies and the public. And a casino that is worried about liablity since it was used as the shooter's perch.

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I starred his post. I think it's more of a the interview being with Ellen...ive never watched and probably won't.

Not that I'm excited about a conspiracy..but the interviewer itself

Well those 2 guys seemed honest, more-so than the Sheriff and FBI at this point.
I feel like I understand a little bit more, but still a lot on information left to know.