Not sure where all this ended up, as missed much of the thread after the 120s, but the last two pages do seem to fit the initial inclination to not accept "the presented conventional version" here.

Excessive secrecy and inaccessible tends to mean some of the more special interests are either implicated or there is desire they not be triangulated further. It will be interesting for example, to see if trafficking links to the Southwest Pacific appear, or conversion to Islam, or literal weapon and ammo arms dealing and smuggling.

Given his girlfriend's ties to far east and his apparent willingness to do her bidding, but money's on that this is actually is tied to ISIS through her and our lefty friends in govt don't want that connection to be made.

There are four options that I can see behind motive.

1. He was flat out crazy

2. He was a right wing nutjob

3. He was a left wing nutjob

4. He was a terrorist recently converted

Not sure anyone will ever tell us which

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Given his girlfriend's ties to far east and his apparent willingness to do her bidding, but money's on that this is actually is tied to ISIS through her and our lefty friends in govt don't want that connection to be made.

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Where do you get that from? It appears to be the opposite. She catered to him and he apparently treated her with contempt in public several times.

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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Given his girlfriend's ties to far east and his apparent willingness to do her bidding, but money's on that this is actually is tied to ISIS through her and our lefty friends in govt don't want that connection to be made.

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Where do you get that from? It appears to be the opposite. She catered to him and he apparently treated her with contempt in public several times.

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They interviewed the owner of the gun store he frequented in Mesquite TX. He said that when she came in, she was very flamboyant and overbearing, and that he seemed to just follow her around.

What source do you have that he showed contempt for her? And if he had contempt for her, why was he funneling her money overseas?

Wow. I thought someone being turned by ISIS required years of captivity, brainwashing and torture like Sgt. Brody in Homeland.

Who would have thought a 65 year old millionaire gambler could be turned that easily by a bossy Pilipino woman.

Starbucks.

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Cy_Tolliver said:

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Given his girlfriend's ties to far east and his apparent willingness to do her bidding, but money's on that this is actually is tied to ISIS through her and our lefty friends in govt don't want that connection to be made.

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Where do you get that from? It appears to be the opposite. She catered to him and he apparently treated her with contempt in public several times.

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They interviewed the owner of the gun store he frequented in Mesquite TX. He said that when she came in, she was very flamboyant and overbearing, and that he seemed to just follow her around.

What source do you have that he showed contempt for her? And if he had contempt for her, why was he funneling her money overseas?

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Employees at a Starbucks in Mesquite, Nevada, however, described the couple's relationship differently. A supervisor at the coffee shop told the Los Angeles Times that Paddock often berated Danley in public. The Starbucks is the only one in the town of Mesquite and is inside the Virgin River Casino.

"It happened a lot," Esperanza Mendoza, supervisor of the Starbucks, told the Times. He would verbally abuse her when Danley asked to use his casino card to buy food or other things inside the casino, Esperanza said.

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"He would glare down at her and say with a mean attitude 'You don't need my casino card for this. I'm paying for your drink, just like I'm paying for you.' Then she would softly say, 'OK' and step back behind him. He was so rude to her in front of us."

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http://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/10/04/new-details-emerge-about-marilou-danley-girlfriend-of-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock/

yeah, folks in texas said she ran all over him. folks in nevada said that he ran all over her.

it's possible that the dynamic changed

Anyway, did they ever find the security guard Jesus Campos? I heard he went missing. Probably just went on a bender. He'll turn up eventually.

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yeah, folks in texas said she ran all over him. folks in nevada said that he ran all over her.

it's possible that the dynamic changed

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In Texas he was not ISIS. In Nevada he was ISIS. That could explain the change in their dynamic.

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This is just like San Berdino. Does anyone really know what the F happened there? Dude went off the rails because of a christmas party?

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Didn't the San Berdino shooter pledge loyalty to ISIS?

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Yes.

Is there some way that technology could solve the problem of people pledging loyalty to ISIS and confirming whether ISIS taking credit for terrorisms is fo real? We never can get a solid consensus. ISIS said Pollock was one of their boys, Feds say no ..no ...no.

San Bernidino dude claims ISIS told him to go on an office rampage. Was Orlando ISIS? Cant remember, Major Hassan at Ft. Hood. No wait he was al queda ... no wait that was ISIL, no wait ISIL was the new ISIS or was it the other way around.

In any event, I feel like there is a way for block chain technology to make affiliating with and taking credit for these events both secure and anonymous. Will do a lot to keep both sides honest.

I usually pay zero attention to conspiracy theories. However, from my limited understanding of what is going on with Vegas, something seems off. .

It seems there are missing security guards, conflicting stories and weird events (didn't the shooter's house get broken into?) .

Can someone who has followed this closely please give a summary of the events, timeline, cast of characters and the outstanding questions yet to be answered?

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I feel like there is a way for block chain technology to make affiliating with and taking credit for these events both secure and anonymous. Will do a lot to keep both sides honest.

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Huh.

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I feel like there is a way for block chain technology to make affiliating with and taking credit for these events both secure and anonymous. Will do a lot to keep both sides honest.

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Huh.

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Wouldn't you rather be killed by an honest terrorist?

Maybe this was discussed, but do we usually get pictures of the crime scene as quickly as we did this time? If I remember correctly, we had pictures like the next day.

I believe they were all leaked.

Gotcha

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Wow. I thought someone being turned by ISIS required years of captivity, brainwashing and torture like Sgt. Brody in Homeland.

Who would have thought a 65 year old millionaire gambler could be turned that easily by a bossy Pilipino woman.

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Think of how readily Leftist judges leap to obstruct some of the defense efforts.

Its not hard if already on that side ---- and still strongly suspect this guy was of activist type. The wealth actually makes it more likely, not less, as the plethora of Hollywood and other moguls going Progressive show.

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Is there some way that technology could solve the problem of people pledging loyalty to ISIS and confirming whether ISIS taking credit for terrorisms is fo real? We never can get a solid consensus. ISIS said Pollock was one of their boys, Feds say no ..no ...no.

San Bernidino dude claims ISIS told him to go on an office rampage. Was Orlando ISIS? Cant remember, Major Hassan at Ft. Hood. No wait he was al queda ... no wait that was ISIL, no wait ISIL was the new ISIS or was it the other way around.

In any event, I feel like there is a way for block chain technology to make affiliating with and taking credit for these events both secure and anonymous. Will do a lot to keep both sides honest.

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Oddly enough, these days the enemy's claims or word on who `did what' has proven more credible on such things. We have alot of interests vested in deflecting it, particularly through the last administration you saw this. Like the reaction to San Bernardino, 2011 directives, etc.

Here is another article claiming he's not missing.

http://www.snopes.com/is-the-mandalay-bay-security-guard-missing/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/shootings/mgm-resorts-seems-to-know-location-of-jesus-campos/

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MGM Resorts seems to know location of Jesus Campos

Where is Jesus Campos? MGM Resorts International seems to know.

The whereabouts of the 25-year-old Mandalay Bay security guard, who first encountered mass shooter Stephen Paddock and was shot in the leg by the gunman, has been unknown since he failed to show up to five television interviews scheduled Thursday by the International Union, Security, Police and Fire Professionals of America.

But a statement released this morning by MGM, the parent company of Mandalay Bay, suggests something that he's simply shy and doesn't want media attention.

MGM told the Review-Journal in a Tuesday email: "Jesus Campos wants to tell his story at a time and place of his choosing. He's asked that everyone respect his request for privacy. We could not be more proud of Jesus." Campos, who was shot in the right thigh by Paddock as he approached the gunman's suite at Mandalay Bay, has become a critical witness in the mass shooting because the police timeline of the events of Oct. 1 has changed twice.

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This is the site that obtained this latest information on Campos.