Shooting in Las Vegas

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There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?

Rapier108
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Time for some tin foil.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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CoolaidWade said:

There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?
And yet there are only two windows broken, both in the room where the shooter was.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Rapier108 said:

CoolaidWade said:

There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?
And yet there are only two windows broken, both in the room where the shooter was.
If only there were some kind of flashing lights on the vegas strip that might be reflected on gold tinted glass.
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The guns are going to have to be in his name (should be)
Hotel Video should show if anyone else entered/left his rooms
Hotel Video would show if anyone assisted in getting cases/gear to the room(s)


This thing has a lot of layers to dig into. What else?

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Proc92 said:

Wasn't there a report of more guns, explosives, and ammo at his house?

hell i have a "friend" that has enough firearms, ammo, and tannerite to make what they found look like kid's play... and all my "friend" enjoys doing is collecting, hunting all over the country, and shooting.... the media has the ability to make that shlt sound way worse than it could be.
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I have a "friend" like that too... he lost all of his in a lake though.
Tom Doniphon
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user name checks out.
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CoolaidWade said:

There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?




I'd like to see the video
BigHitterDaLama
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At least 10 suitcases concealing 23 guns and ammo.

http://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-timeline-2017-10
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Interviews I've seen have had people saying they could see flashes but from the vids I've seen so far, I haven't been able to see the flashes
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TAMUallen said:

CoolaidWade said:

There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?




I'd like to see the video

It's on one of the early pages of this thread 6-10

Definitely looks like reflections to me.
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BigHitterDaLama said:

At least 10 suitcases concealing 23 guns and ammo.

http://www.businessinsider.com/las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-timeline-2017-10


Sounds like we need some suitcase control laws.
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Do we know more of the guns he was using? Haven't been following closely because I'd rather stay out of intitial hysteria and confusion but moreso because I'm frightened by it and how it has laid out much better plans for our imbecile ISIS enemies
CoolaidWade
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TAMUallen said:

CoolaidWade said:

There is video of muzzle flashes under the middle of that building. Not even close to the picture of the room with the two windows busted out.

Seriously WTF? Am I really thinking there is more to this story?




I'd like to see the video
Here is one of them. There are several.

https://www.facebook.com/thetru27/videos/vb.440347642756954/789063097885405/?type=2&theater

But as mentioned above there is only one room with broken glass. So probably just a reflection like mentioned. That makes more sense. I just always question everything and sometimes don't think clearly when in shock. I hate **** like this.
Bunk Moreland
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It was a reflection.
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Could easily be a reflection of the muzzle blasts reflected off a car windshield below.
Tom Doniphon
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TAMUallen said:

Do we know more of the guns he was using? Haven't been following closely because I'd rather stay out of intitial hysteria and confusion but moreso because I'm frightened by it and how it has laid out much better plans for our imbecile ISIS enemies

per interviews i saw earlier, sounded like at least some of them were likely AR15 and AR10... they mentioned the large quantity of 223 and 308 ammo so I'm just putting 2 and 2 together.
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This still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.
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TAMUallen said:

Interviews I've seen have had people saying they could see flashes but from the vids I've seen so far, I haven't been able to see the flashes


I've been curious about how many people realized where it was coming from and how quickly. I haven't seen it either, but the distance is so far that all video I've seen is very grainy. That's one of the many frightening aspects -> getting hailed on with no idea where to take cover because you dont know where the threat is.
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BigHitterDaLama said:

His voter registration info was posted earlier. Democrat, registered in Palm Beach Couty, Florida in 4/11/1984.
Means this story will cease being covered by the media in very short order.
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BernArnold said:

BernArnold said:

Ugh.

Hannity just mentioned a teacher that tweeted out something like let's hope only Trumptards were killed.

I hadn't seen that one. WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE.

They had talked about the lawyer chick too and Hillary but that one was new for me.

Makes me sick.
found it....she deleted account already of course but....needs to be fired and humiliated for this garbage.


If that is the "Resistance" its going to be very easy to join the `Empire'. Their unhinged behavior is getting irksome. First CBS lawyer, now this.


As for the shooter, holding to doubts about the whole scenario. Philippines have seen heavy Islamic activity recently too.

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Agnzona said:

This still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.


Stop trying to make sense of a psychopath. Someone who would take these lengths is not someone who is mentally stable enough to make logical decisions even when it comes to killing innocent people.

More than anything else, it feels like this nut decided his life was over and spent some time going balls to the wall for a month or so until he was ready then did this horrific thing
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Agnzona said:

This still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.


You're assuming rational actions by an intelligent yet irrational actor.

Unfortunately, his actions lead heavily to conspiracies at this point. I think he was nutty and had all the financial resources to carry out his insane plans. Doesnt make sense though
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Agnzona said:

This still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.


He committed the biggest mass shooting in the history of the US by shooting a tightly grouped crowd of 20k people from an elevated position with a cache of automatic weapons, and people are wondering why he didn't pick a more lethal method? You serious, Clark?

Taking luggage into a hotel is about the easiest, least risky methods I can tbink of to get a cache of weapons to a private, elevated position.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Agnzona said:

ICThis still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.


He committed the biggest mass shooting in the history of the US by shooting a tightly grouped crowd of 20k people from an elevated position with a cache of automatic weapons, and people are wondering why he didn't pick a more lethal method? You serious, Clark?
I was thinking the exact same thing.

'...do something bigger...'
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DannyDuberstein said:

Agnzona said:

This still makes zero sense. It was planned and not spur of the moment. He had means do something much bigger and he chose the most labor intensive way possible carting all those guns and ammo to his room instead of some bigger surer thing? Every trip in the hotel cwith a bag of guns was a potential event busting point. This guy was obviously very smart and capable. Nothing adds up.


He committed the biggest mass shooting in the history of the US by shooting a tightly grouped crowd of 20k people from an elevated position with a cache of automatic weapons, and people are wondering why he didn't pick a more lethal method? You serious, Clark?


Well, it is a good question. With his apparent resources he could've layered attacks and made this far worse, which is incredibly scary
Agnzona
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Yes its the equivalent of a guy with backhoe, bulldozer and dynamite digging about with a shovel.
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Here's something. Was the stockpile because he was expecting reinforcements that didn't show?

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You are trying to apply logic to the thoughts of a madman.
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CSTXAg92 said:

BigHitterDaLama said:

His voter registration info was posted earlier. Democrat, registered in Palm Beach Couty, Florida in 4/11/1984.
Means this story will cease being covered by the media in very short order.


I'm going to bet this guy hasnt voted in a while. Seems like he became a recluse who preferred living in casino hotels and gambling rather than living real life.
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Did those windows give the best vantage point on the concert? Why pick the Mandalay Bay?
Bunk Moreland
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GE said:

Did those windows give the best vantage point on the concert? Why pick the Mandalay Bay?


Yes without a doubt. He was able to basically shoot down at fish in a barrel.
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I agree with the guy on FOX right now. The pre meditation of this is off the charts.
cbr
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Manchurian candidate scenario has been proven to be scientifically possible. It sadly is actually not just fiction. So no, you can't rule it out as just impossible, or sarcasm.
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