Guessing that room, or maybe even the whole floor, will be retired.

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Facts are never important to liberals

Only THE NARRATIVE

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Really? Just liberals? Did you miss the first couple of pages here?

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It's different when conservatives jump to conclusions.

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Same question to you:

Your propaganda outlet said PER THE NARRATIVE that it's super easy to get fully automatic weapons in this country. So tell us how correct they are and just how easy it is. I could just go get one at Walmart right now couldnt I?

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They need to let their audience know the facts of obtaining a FULLY AUTOMATIC GUN LEGALLY, which this one was, just give the facts and let your audience decide.

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You're right.

However, you can legally buy a bump stock for a few hundred dollars tomorrow.

In the technical sense, it's still semi-auto. But it's close enough to full auto.

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Wow, now a guest on MSNBC has a guest in which that these automatic weapons are readily available, what a false narrative. They should at least comment on how difficult they are to obtain LEGALLY. How embarrassing.

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Well, libs in this thread believe that you should not be able to legally obtain a gun if mentally ill, which is already against the law.

Rapier108 said:

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Many of those Antifa pages/accounts aren't legit.

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Plus, there are anal orifices from radical groups who take "credit" for any mass casualty event.

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just looking on google earth, its about 390 yards from the hotel to the stage. Close to 600 yards to the back of the venue (that's not even counting the elevation change).

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600 meters is inside effective range for everything from 5.56 and bigger.

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not saying anything to the contrary, I'm just not familiar with the area, so I looked it up.

The vast majority of all "antifa" accounts are fake. They are not organized enough to have a real social media mouthpiece.

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NBC News reports that Paddock was married and going through a divorce or otherwise splitting up with his wife, though it was not clear who that woman is. NBC also said it is not known if the marital issues played any role in the shooting.

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nhayden said:

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Wow, now a guest on MSNBC has a guest in which that these automatic weapons are readily available, what a false narrative. They should at least comment on how difficult they are to obtain LEGALLY. How embarrassing.

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Well, libs in this thread believe that you should not be able to legally obtain a gun if mentally ill, which is already against the law.

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but it needs to be really REALLY against the law, which is different.

Maroon Dawn said:

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Dr. Watson said:

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Maroon Dawn said:

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Facts are never important to liberals

Only THE NARRATIVE

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Really? Just liberals? Did you miss the first couple of pages here?

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Did you miss your propaganda outlet saying it's super easy to get a fully automatic weapon?

Tell us Sapper, just how easy is it get a fully automatic weapon?

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That person is wrong. It's also not that hard to convert a semi-auto AK shipped from overseas to full auto. There are several YouTube videos showing you exactly how to do it.

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It could have been a bit of psychopathic behavior and the desire to be remembered.

He is a loser either way.

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Will be interesting to find out. Lots of preparation and thinking went into this. Of course someone automatically has to be insane to do something like this, but he clearly knew exactly what he was doing.

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The vast majority of all "antifa" accounts are fake. They are not organized enough to have a real social media mouthpiece.

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They are actually pretty highly organized, much much moreso than the alt right. In Europe they are ridiculously well organized.

They absolutely do use social media constantly.

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garc said:

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Wow, now a guest on MSNBC has a guest in which that these automatic weapons are readily available, what a false narrative. They should at least comment on how difficult they are to obtain LEGALLY. How embarrassing.

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Well, libs in this thread believe that you should not be able to legally obtain a gun if mentally ill, which is already against the law.

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but it needs to be really REALLY against the law, which is different.

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It's not easy in many states to have a person declared a danger for mental illness and take away their ability to obtain firearms.

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That person is wrong. It's also not that hard to convert a semi-auto AK shipped from overseas to full auto. There are several YouTube videos showing you exactly how to do it.

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Which is also illegal.

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Ok. The AK is not illegal and the means to convert them can be found with little effort

Many people here are saying it was a 7.62 or an AK have not heard an AK fired in anger before. The best way to describe it, in my opinion, would be a woodpecker. You're not killing anything at 600 yards with it either.

I honestly believe it was an AR with a bump fire stock and several drum mags. And, no, it wasn't a damn SAW gun.

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It's not easy in many states to have a person declared a danger for mental illness

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was this man ever observed by a mental health professional?

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Many people here are saying it was a 7.62 or an AK have not heard an AK fired in anger before. The best way to describe it, in my opinion, would be a woodpecker.

I honestly believe it was an AR with a bump fire stock and several drum mags. And, no, it wasn't a damn SAW gun.

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Like I said, I could be wrong, but I've heard 5.56 and 7.62 fired in a city and hat doesn't sound like 5.56 to me.

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It's not easy in many states to have a person declared a danger for mental illness and take away their ability to obtain firearms.

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Nor should it be because the law would be abused.

This looks a little weird.

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That person is wrong. It's also not that hard to convert a semi-auto AK shipped from overseas to full auto. There are several YouTube videos showing you exactly how to do it.

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Which is also illegal.

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Ok. The AK is not illegal and the means to convert them can be found with little effort

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I think you can find out how to make IEDs and Pipe Bombs on the internet without much effort either. Not sure though...

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Ok. The AK is not illegal and the means to convert them can be found with little effort

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bump fire? yeah. that's pretty easy.

other mods. yeah, not as easy as you're claiming

but this dude planned this for months. he set up cameras to make sure he wasn't taken alive.

so "easy" vs. "hard" really don't factor into this.

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This looks a little weird.

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That doesn't look like a floor in the 30s if the total is 43floors.

my guess

bump fired AKs with drum mags

i bet when he got in the heat of it, he only fired one, maybe two weapons

Never let a crisis go to waste amirite libs? Said by one Rham Emmaunel.

Sickening.

the myth of how super easy it is to turn AKs and ARs into fully auto death machines is damn near as pervasive as how easy it is just go buy machine guns from the local stop-n-go.

if you don't know what you're doing, you can very easily turn a $500-1000 dollar gun into a paper weight. Just because there are youtube videos out there showing you how to do it doesn't mean it's easy. there are also youtube videos on how to disassemble and reassemble race car engines. that doesn't mean it's easy.

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This looks a little weird.

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While that looks like muzzle flashes, MB has 43 stories and that position is not even half way up, must les 32nd floor

NAP Violator said:

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This looks a little weird.

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"Very Rough" is right. The bottom of that image is already 3-5 stories up. Perhaps the 43rd floor is a double floor as well?

Two shooters?