10andBOUNCE said:
Hadn't clicked in here since I wasn't all that interested in something Al Mohler said. Come to find out we're talking about those squirrelly Calvinists again.
While I agree that at the end of the day, Calvinists like myself and Arminians like Doc should still rally around our gracious Lord and Savior as one day we will be in His presence together, TULIP does offer significant nuances into how we consider the character of God as Doc is pointing out.
It all boils down to whether or not you believe in God being completely sovereign over ALL. Arminians do not believe sovereignty over ALL. It is impossible to say otherwise if God is not sovereign over salvation. So therefore a traditional baptist or Arminian would essentially embrace the doctrine of God's limited sovereignty. That isn't the God I find in the Bible.
Regarding the original subject, I can consider myself one of those Christians with far less enthusiasm for Trump this go around. But it has more to do with general Trump fatigue than anything else. I'm completely on board with the decentralization of the federal government in most issues and leaving the states to handle. From that point, you better believe I want Texas to do everything in its power to overthrow the gross realities of abortion in any way. And at the same time be more charitable to helping families with adoption. I would call on other Christians in other states to act and vote accordingly in their own state environments.
I agree with you on the Trump thing.
Scripture tells us God is love. And that He desires all men to be saved. When Christ was born the angels said it was good news for all men, not the elect.
Granted there are Scriptures supporting Calvinism also. But I am very leery of a theology that has to insert words (all kinds of men, when the Scripture says all men) to be consistent.
Calvinism gets a lot right. But it all comes down to the character of God. Is God love as 1 John clearly states? Or does He preordain people, maybe even your children, to hell? Without them having any chance?
I also believe in free will. And I believe Scripture supports the concept of free will. And I believe God gave us free will because He is love. As Scripture clearly says.
We can accept or reject God. It is not love, in my opinion, if we have no free will.
Is God sovereign? Of course. He can do anything He wants. But because He is love, He does not pre ordain people to hell.
I am sovereign over my children but because of love, I do not take away their free will. And I certainly do not love one child more than another. Or condemn one to eternal torment just because I can.
But we are both blessed to know the Lord. We are brothers in Christ. We just have some differences in theology. And that is okay.
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