Immaculate Heart of Mary

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August is the month of the Immaculate Heart of Mary.

January - The Holy Name of Jesus
February - The Holy Family
March - St. Joseph
April - The Blessed Sacrament / Holy Eucharist
May - The Blessed Virgin Mary
June - The Sacred Heart of Jesus
July - The Precious Blood of Jesus
August - The Immaculate Heart of Mary
September - The Seven Dolors of Mary / The Sorrowful Mother
October - The Holy Rosary
November - The Holy Souls in Purgatory
December - The Immaculate Conception

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Litany of the Immaculate Heart of Mary

Lord, have mercy.
Christ, have mercy.
Lord, have mercy.
Christ, hear us.
Christ, graciously hear us.

God the Father of Heaven, Have mercy on us.
God the Son, Redeemer of the world, Have mercy on us.
God the Holy Ghost, Have mercy on us.
Holy Trinity, one God, Have mercy on us.

Heart of Mary, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, according to the heart of God, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, united to the Heart of Jesus, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, organ of the Holy Ghost, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, sanctuary of the Divine Trinity, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, tabernacle of God Incarnate, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, immaculate from thy creation, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, full of grace, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, blessed among all hearts, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, throne of glory, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, most humble, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, holocaust of Divine Love, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, fastened to the Cross with Jesus Crucified, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, comfort of the afflicted, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, refuge of sinners, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, hope of the agonizing, Pray for us.
Heart of Mary, seat of mercy, Pray for us.

Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world: Spare us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world: Graciously hear us, O Lord.
Lamb of God, Who takest away the sins of the world: Have mercy on us.

Christ, hear us. Christ, graciously hear us.
V. Immaculate Mary, meek and humble of heart:
R. Make our hearts according to the Heart of Jesus.

Let us pray. O most merciful God, Who, for the salvation of sinners and the refuge of the miserable, wast pleased that the Most Pure Heart of Mary should be most like in charity and pity to the Divine Heart of Thy Son, Jesus Christ: grant that we who commemorate this sweet and loving Heart may, by the merits and intercession of the same Blessed Virgin, merit to be found according to the Heart of Jesus. Through the same Christ, Our Lord. R. Amen.
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If my requests are heeded, Russia will be converted, and there will be peace; if not, she will spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions of the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be annihilated. In the end, my Immaculate Heart will triumph. The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to me, and she will be converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.


https://padreperegrino.org/2018/05/tihm/
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Big fan.
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First Saturday coming up. Highly recommend the devotion. Highly recommend guiding your kids through it as well.
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From an outside perspective it feels like y'all love Mary more than Jesus and borderline worship her.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

From an outside perspective it feels like y'all love Mary more than Jesus and borderline worship her.


As us Ags say "from the outside looking in you can't understand it". Either way check out "hyperdulia"

I am not a huge fan of Lumen Gentium, but I like this part

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The various forms of piety towards the Mother of God, which the Church has approved within the limits of sound and orthodox doctrine according to the dispositions and understanding of the faithful, ensure that while the mother is honored, the Son through whom all things have their being and in whom it has pleased the Father that all fullness should dwell, is rightly loved and glorified and His commandments are observed" (Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, VII, 66). (Etym. Latin hyperdulia, virtue of deep submission.)
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Yukon Cornelius said:

From an outside perspective it feels like y'all love Mary more than Jesus and borderline worship her.
She was a wonderful mother.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

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I think that's a very good quote. However it seems the focus is primarily On Mary and not Jesus. Take a survey of this forum and it seems to be the case.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

I think that's a very good quote. However it seems the focus is primarily On Mary and not Jesus. Take a survey of this forum and it seems to be the case.
People, yourself included, ask questions or make such statements.

Look at the litany (prayer) above... see how it is ordered towards Christ. See who we ask to pray for us and see who we ask for mercy. See how we ask, in light of her prayers, that our hearts might be more like Christ's.
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Quo Vadis? said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

From an outside perspective it feels like y'all love Mary more than Jesus and borderline worship her.

As us Ags say "from the outside looking in you can't understand it". Either way check out "hyperdulia"

I am not a huge fan of Lumen Gentium, but I like this part

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The various forms of piety towards the Mother of God, which the Church has approved within the limits of sound and orthodox doctrine according to the dispositions and understanding of the faithful, ensure that while the mother is honored, the Son through whom all things have their being and in whom it has pleased the Father that all fullness should dwell, is rightly loved and glorified and His commandments are observed" (Second Vatican Council, Lumen Gentium, VII, 66). (Etym. Latin hyperdulia, virtue of deep submission.)

One thing to note, in our various communities, we have many shared values, assumptions, and presuppositions that don't necessarily get explicitly communicated in the language we speak. It becomes obvious in casual dialog such as this query and the other Marian threads. Concepts such as prayer and worship carry different presuppositions in the Catholic context when compared to the various Protestant/Evangelical contexts. Even with our Orthodox friends, albeit not nearly as stark, there are these differences. I know Zobel had pointed this out in the past with respect to worship and sacrifice. To make an analogy, it's similar to how the English and Americans differently use the word biscuit.
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Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is the fastest and best way to Jesus..
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Why wouldn't devotion to Christ be the best way to Christ?
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10andBOUNCE said:

Why wouldn't devotion to Christ be the best way to Christ?
Her soul magnifies the Lord.
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Thaddeus73 said:

Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is the fastest and best way to Jesus..
Or you could go directly to Him, like He said. A middle(wo)man isn't necessary.
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NoahAg said:

Thaddeus73 said:

Devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary is the fastest and best way to Jesus..
Or you could go directly to Him, like He said. A middle(wo)man isn't necessary.
If Mary wasn't necessary why was chosen to be the medium through which God entered the world? Jesus could have directly manifested himself on Earth, yet God always chooses to involve creation in his divine will.
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Catholics have a mother in the heavenly family, per John 19:27, because we are all beloved disciples (not just John). Her soul magnifies the Lord, and that makes Jesus larger, clearer, and more in focus than if we just go to him and not through her. After all, He came to us through her, so going back to Him in the same way makes a lot of sense...
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Help me understand, what obstacle is it that she helps you arrive at Jesus easier than just going directly to Jesus?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Help me understand, what obstacle is it that she helps you arrive at Jesus easier than just going directly to Jesus?

I think the fundamental issue is that Catholics/Orthodox understand Mary as an integral part of becoming closer to Christ, and the typical Protestant views Mary as a needless distraction from Christ - Mary is a waste of time and effort in the evangelical world. However, I think if one would attempt to see Mary from God's perspective it might help some, because God chose Mary out of ALL people to be the mother of God the Son. Mary was not a surrogate womb God borrowed, but rather Mary is the spouse God chose to be his Mother.

Saying that God is unique and complex and beyond all human comprehension is an understatement to say the least. None of us can know God the Father except through Jesus - God the Son. But how are we able to know God the Son? Jesus did not just beam himself into our fallen world, but from the fall it was always the plan for Jesus to be made known to us through his mother, Mary.

When the Bereans were searching the scriptures what do you think they were searching for specifically? What were they examining the scriptures to discover? How would the Bereans have "found Jesus" in the OT Scriptures? Answer: They first would have needed to find The Woman, and the Virgin, and the Ark, and the Glory Cloud, and trace back the Davidic line. They needed to find Mary to believe about Jesus.

It has been said that to know Mary is to Know Jesus and I believe this is accurate. This is because nothing about Mary matters except everything about her son and who/what that makes Mary to be. Jesus became man and dwelt among us and therefore we were able to be taught by God, and physically know God. Jesus comes to us through Mary, and Jesus is not offended by our honor for his mother but rather Jesus is glorified even more through our veneration for Mary. Ask yourself the question about what would have happened had Mary not accepted and believed when the Angel came to her? What would that have done for God's plan for our Salvation?

The "obstacle" Mary helps us to arrive at is who Jesus is and what that means for us. Bad Mariology leads to bad Christology, which we have seen played out through history with various heresies. For example, to deny Mary is the Mother of God leads one to deny Jesus was fully God and fully man, and tempts one to separate Jesus into two persons with one part being divine and the other being human (see Nestorian heresy). Mary is the Mother of Jesus who is God and the two are one and the same.

Mary brings us closer to Christ in every way because Mary is not divine but she was the instrument of divinity. We can completely identify with Mary. Jesus was fully human but at the same time fully divine. We can identify with the humanity of Jesus, but we can never identify with his divinity and therefore we have limitations impossible to overcome. With Mary we can seek to understand more deeply and more personally how much God loves us because through his mother he became one of us while remaining God. Mary was perfectly conformed to God's will and her soul magnifies the Lord. How could anything that magnifies the Lord be distracting from the Lord?

Mary is not an obstacle, but rather Mary is a short cut helping us in our faith and our understanding.
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I do see the excellent point that Mary was by divinity to imbue the humanity of Jesus. Critically important aspect. But I have no trouble knowing who Jesus is without the constant consideration or admiration of Mary. It's sufficient to understand she was a virgin from the tribe of Judah descending from King David. Beyond that I fail to see the benefits to the high level of focus and adorations etc. to me it borderlines on idolatry. Her role was one of humanity and it seems the RCC/orthodox give her divinity. I could be misunderstanding the situation but that's my take.

Why not just seek to understand how Jesus loved us via His humanity instead of placing another human in that role? If He was human then we can relate. I believe He was and so we can relate. "Greater love have no MAN than to lay down his life for His friends". We see that perfectly exemplified in Jesus willing death that we need no other substitute for it.
Why replace the torn curtains with His mother?

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The claim that Mary is a "shortcut" to Christ - where is that claim made in scripture? Or is that church tradition?
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10andBOUNCE said:

The claim that Mary is a "shortcut" to Christ - where is that claim made in scripture? Or is that church tradition?


Much of it comes from her saying "my soul magnifies the Lord" and the wedding at Cana.

Mary notices the lack of wine, and she goes to Jesus and mentions it to him, startled he asks her "are we going to start now?" As this will be his first public miracle, and then she says "do whatever he tells you" and Jesus does as Mary asks.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

I do see the excellent point that Mary was by divinity to imbue the humanity of Jesus. Critically important aspect. But I have no trouble knowing who Jesus is without the constant consideration or admiration of Mary. It's sufficient to understand she was a virgin from the tribe of Judah descending from King David. Beyond that I fail to see the benefits to the high level of focus and adorations etc. to me it borderlines on idolatry. Her role was one of humanity and it seems the RCC/orthodox give her divinity. I could be misunderstanding the situation but that's my take.

Why not just seek to understand how Jesus loved us via His humanity instead of placing another human in that role? If He was human then we can relate. I believe He was and so we can relate. "Greater love have no MAN than to lay down his life for His friends". We see that perfectly exemplified in Jesus willing death that we need no other substitute for it.
Why replace the torn curtains with His mother?


Please expound on what you mean by the tearing of the Temple veil, and what that signifies in your understanding.

We are not "replacing the torn curtains with Mary," and we are not "substituting Mary in place of Jesus." Respectfully, that type of view comes from your interpretive tradition and your Protestant perspective - which is to say you are letting modern Protestant misconceptions and thought prevent you from even considering beliefs held universally by all Christians until only the past few hundred years.

Protestants fail to see the need to embrace the Mother of our Lord, and by doing so you shun her and denigrate her importance and the role God chose her to have in salvation history and in His kingdom. Protestants attempt make a footnote out of Mary as you did above when you state she was just a virgin in the tribe of Judah and beyond that essentially she's nothing special. I'd say tell that to God, because I doubt Jesus would agree that his mother is just any ordinary girl and nothing special. We are talking about his Mom!

The Theotokos, the God-Bearer, the ONLY person in the entire history of all people to ever live who would conceive and deliver God our Savior into this world is absolutely extraordinary, and Jesus delights in the the love we have for his Mother. And I believe firmly that the derogatory treatment and dismissal of Mary by Protestants offends God, although I understand most Protestants do not cause this offense intentionally.

Finally, with respect to how Mary helps us in our relationship with Jesus: each of us has a mother. Each of us can identify with our mother and the love we have for her. Some of us have brothers, and some mothers have sons, but everyone has a mother. Take a second and reflect on the love and affection you hold for your mother - and her caring nature, and her concern for your wellbeing, and her unconditional love for you, and the joy your mom has from who you are.

After you've thought a lot about your own mom, take a second to reflect on the relationship of Jesus and his mom. Think about her joy and wonder while feeding him as a baby, and caring for him as he takes his first steps, and the worry she felt when she lost him in the temple, and her asking him perform his first miracle at Cana, and then her sorrow and pain at the foot of the cross watching her blameless and perfect son as he's tortured and then crucified. We can relate to Mary because we can relate to our own mothers. And through meditating on Mary and her relationship with her son we are also drawn closer to Jesus. Meditating on Mary is meditating on Christ.
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Meant to reply to 10andBOUNCE:
Quo Vadis? said:

10andBOUNCE said:

The claim that Mary is a "shortcut" to Christ - where is that claim made in scripture? Or is that church tradition?


Much of it comes from her saying "my soul magnifies the Lord" and the wedding at Cana.

Mary notices the lack of wine, and she goes to Jesus and mentions it to him, startled he asks her "are we going to start now?" As this will be his first public miracle, and then she says "do whatever he tells you" and Jesus does as Mary asks.

I guess what I mean by "shortcut " is that Mary will lead you to Christ and she will help deepen your understanding of Jesus.

Think of her like a road map that gives you the most direct route and helps you avoid traffic and delays, and road closures. Are there other ways to get to your destination? Yes, but why not avail yourself of her help because she is waiting and wanting to help you.

And before anyone says you don't need Mary because you already have Christ, just take a deep breath and ask yourself if you might be able to learn something new about God?Mary helps you grow in your faith and your understanding of Jesus because she is his mother and knows him more intimately than any other person. For example, did thinking about Mary as the Ark of the Covenant help you in any way? Did you gain anything from seeing her in a new light? I hope the answer is yes.
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Undoubtedly so it's my Protestant background. But as of yet I haven't seen a single reasonable explanation why I NEED Mary for salvation. I put my trust In Jesus and Jesus alone.

My comment about the temple shroud tearing is that symbolizes the separation from God and his people. That was removed. There was no more separation. We have free and direct access to God. We need no mediator apart from Jesus. Not Jesus plus Mary. Just Jesus. He is the HIGH PRIEST. The ultimate fulfillment. The atonement, our intercessor, our groomsman, our kinsmen redeemer, our Lord and Savior in totalitarian.
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You're coming at it from the angle of spiritual minimalism again. Do what you NEED and cut the rest. Thats the wrong approach.

Mary is the Church. She is our mother. Her giving birth to Christ is an event which echoed forward and backward in human history and our experience of the divine. You NEED Mary for salvation because salvation comes through the Incarnation, and He chose her to take His humanity from.

Nobody is saying worship her. Literally nobody worships her.

Protestants spend more time on this than the Orthodox do. It's not a big deal.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Undoubtedly so it's my Protestant background. But as of yet I haven't seen a single reasonable explanation why I NEED Mary for salvation. I put my trust In Jesus and Jesus alone.

My comment about the temple shroud tearing is that symbolizes the separation from God and his people. That was removed. There was no more separation. We have free and direct access to God. We need no mediator apart from Jesus. Not Jesus plus Mary. Just Jesus. He is the HIGH PRIEST. The ultimate fulfillment. The atonement, our intercessor, our groomsman, our kinsmen redeemer, our Lord and Savior in totalitarian.

I think a minimalistic approach to Mary tends to lead to a minimalistic understanding of the Incarnation.
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Zobel said:

You NEED Mary for salvation


Zobel said:

It's not a big deal.

Can both of these be true at the same time?
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Undoubtedly so it's my Protestant background. But as of yet I haven't seen a single reasonable explanation why I NEED Mary for salvation. I put my trust In Jesus and Jesus alone.

My comment about the temple shroud tearing is that symbolizes the separation from God and his people. That was removed. There was no more separation. We have free and direct access to God. We need no mediator apart from Jesus. Not Jesus plus Mary. Just Jesus. He is the HIGH PRIEST. The ultimate fulfillment. The atonement, our intercessor, our groomsman, our kinsmen redeemer, our Lord and Savior in totalitarian.


Nothing minimalistic about this at all. Amen to this.
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I've never once said to do a bare minimalist approach to faith. And there is nothing minimalist about Jesus. But He is sufficient for our salvation. I do not need anyone else but Jesus. He is the High Priest. We, the body of believers are the church, His wife.

Are you sure no one is worshipping her? Where's the line?
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yes...because in the end, people don't really have their minds changed by ideas or arguments. challenged, maybe, but that doesn't change their mind. what changes people is experience, going and seeing. and when you actually go and see, it isn't a big deal. it doesn't come up.

when I say you need the Theotokos for salvation, it's just an observation of fact. that's how it happened. He chose it to be that way.
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Any time people say, let's only talk about what I NEED it is a de facto minimalist approach. cut to the essentials, and in so doing, justify removing the rest.

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I do not need anyone else but Jesus.
But this is simply not true. Christianity is not "me and Jesus". We need each other. He doesn't need us, but He chooses to save us through each other. He chose to create us as icons, images of Himself, and He chose to give us reign and kingship over the creation. He chose to join the divine essence with the essence of Mankind, which doesn't bring the divine down but elevates Humanity. And He chose to give us the dignity of being His hands, feet, eyes, ears in the world - it is through our co-working with Him that we and the world are saved. We are saved both by what others do for us - when He acts in our lives through others - AND when we do for others - when He acts in others lives through us. We receive grace going and coming, but it is through this corporate action that we make real the Body of Christ. This isn't some intangible woo-woo metaphor. We are His Body because the Spirit animates us and works through us, just like your spirit animates your body, and each cell is made alive by that spirit, and you move it as you will to do what you will.

As St Paul says - "The eye cannot say to the hand, 'I do not need you.' Nor can the head say to the feet, 'I do not need you.' On the contrary, the parts of the body that seem to be weaker are necessary."
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We, the body of believers are the church, His wife.
Of course. But the Woman is also the Church, as we see in Revelation. There can be multiple truths. She is the church, we are the church. She gave birth to Christ in a unique way, just as He is the Son of God in a unique way (monogenes often translated as "only begotten" is probably best understood as "unique"), and He is the Seed of Abraham and Heir in a unique way. We birth to Christ in a spiritual way, and become sons of God, and heirs to the promise - as she did, through faith and grace.

These are not new beliefs. St Irenaeus in the second century understood "that the knot of Eve's disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary. For what the virgin Eve had bound fast through faithlessness, the virgin Mary set free through faith." Christ is the New Adam, Mary the new Eve. At the Cross, where we see the birth of the Church (birth through blood and water from the side of Christ) we also see the command - behold your Mother, and to her, behold your son. She is our mother - the mother of all the living - just as Eve is. But she is the mother of obedience and faithfulness, those with true life. If it is true that we become Christ's brethren through adoption, His brothers and sisters, and sons of God accordingly - then she also becomes our mother.

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Are you sure no one is worshipping her? Where's the line?
I have never been more sure of anything. Worship (latreia) in the scriptures always has sacrifice (offerings) and the Church has always understood it this way. We do not offer incense to her, we do not offer sacrifice to her, we do not serve her. You will find no mention of worship of the Theotokos in any Orthodox liturgics, in any hymns, in any prayers. I am confident of the same in the RCC.

Bowing down or making a prostration in front of someone and kissing them (proskynesis) is not worship (latreia). Jacob bowed down seven times before Esau. Joseph's brothers bowed down before him in Egypt. Joseph bows before Israel. Moses bowed down before Jethro. David bowed down before Saul. Nathan the prophet bows down before David. And, fittingly, Bathsheba bows down before David. Showing honor and reverence is not worship. We honor her

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Excellent post.

ETA: I completely agree with your description of the minimalist approach. Why reduce everything to only the most basic, bare essentials when there is so much more to be had and so much more to be gained?!

Beautiful description of the body of Christ. Outstanding post.
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How does one worship God today? What sacrifices?
 
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