Boston Celtics HC joe mazzulla...

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Just curious what the Christians think of him...he seems incredibly genuine.





not meant to be political-related but just showing this guy's guts...not many could do this. if staff wants to remove this piece, completely understand.

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Currently, I don't like him. His team is up 2-0 on my Mavericks. I'll weigh in after bouncy ball is done
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"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?
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"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
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I'm pretty sure this coach is actually the poster known as Redstone.
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I really don't understand tweets like Benny Johnson's. It seems like he's trying really hard to be divisive and make this OH SO CONTROVERSIAL or something. "LIBS HATE HIM!" or whatever outrage soundbit they want to say on Fox News primetime to make conservatives angry.

Joe Mazzulla seems like a good dude and a good coach. I certainly haven't heard people say anything bad about him. It seems like he's well liked and people don't dislike him for his Christian faith. So why are these people on twitter trying to make it seem like he's hated and persecuted for it? That doesn't appear to be the case at all.

God I hate twitter. such a cesspool of outrage all the time.

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barbacoa taco said:

I really don't understand tweets like Benny Johnson's. It seems like he's trying really hard to be divisive and make this OH SO CONTROVERSIAL or something. "LIBS HATE HIM!" or whatever outrage soundbit they want to say on Fox News primetime to make conservatives angry.

Joe Mazzulla seems like a good dude and a good coach. I certainly haven't heard people say anything bad about him. It seems like he's well liked and people don't dislike him for his Christian faith. So why are these people on twitter trying to make it seem like he's hated and persecuted for it? That doesn't appear to be the case at all.

God I hate twitter. such a cesspool of outrage all the time.
I don't follow him. No idea who he is. Don't care.
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conservative online personality, constantly tweeting.

point is, i don't think things are nearly as controversial as people make them out to be, nor do they need to be.
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barbacoa taco said:

conservative online personality, constantly tweeting.

point is, i don't think things are nearly as controversial as people make them out to be, nor do they need to be.
my guess at why he tweeted that is that MSM will not play that soundbite. that's my guess.
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AGC said:

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"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?


How specifically is Christianity "structurally oppressed," particularly more than any other group?
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AGC said:

Sapper Redux said:

"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
I have to say, I'm not sure what 'structurally oppressed' means. What I can say, anecdotally, is that in my 50 + years as a Christian, I've never felt remotely oppressed....at least in what my perception of oppression is. Then again, I live in the South so what I saw more often was people who weren't Christian feel out of place...as much as we tried to included them and treat them with love and respect.

Maybe he means in the media? The only thing I can somewhat see is the removal of prayer in school the way we used to have it. I think we should bring it back, but just my two cents.

Then again, I also don't feel oppressed as a white male....so maybe I'm the weird one
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I have a few questions about Structural racism

1. Do you have to supply your own blueprints?
2. What does it cost?
3. Does it violate my HOA?
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I have to say, I'm not sure what 'structurally oppressed' means. What I can say, anecdotally, is that in my 50 + years as a Christian, I've never felt remotely oppressed....at least in what my perception of oppression is. Then again, I live in the South so what I saw more often was people who weren't Christian feel out of place...as much as we tried to included them and treat them with love and respect.

I looked it up out of curiosity. I could not find a Merriam Webster type definition, but here is the closest to that:

"Systemic and structural racism are forms of racism that are pervasively and deeply embedded in systems, laws, written or unwritten policies, and entrenched practices and beliefs that produce, condone, and perpetuate widespread unfair treatment and oppression of people of [insert group name here]"

So basically the system is out to get you like Jim Crow Laws, Redlining, Racial Profiling by police etc etc.

Interestingly, this gave rise to a whole other field of research called the "Christian Persecution Complex" starting in the mid 20th century when prayer in schools was banned, Roe v Wade came along, birth control became popular, pornography became more pervasive, women went into the workplace in greater numbers, and a general rise in secular thinking undercut the role of religion in American Society. Christian though the world was out to get them.

I always thought these aggrieved Christians should go to North Korea or a Boko Haram camp in Nigeria to understand actual Christian persecution..







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BluHorseShu said:

AGC said:

Sapper Redux said:

"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
I have to say, I'm not sure what 'structurally oppressed' means. What I can say, anecdotally, is that in my 50 + years as a Christian, I've never felt remotely oppressed....at least in what my perception of oppression is. Then again, I live in the South so what I saw more often was people who weren't Christian feel out of place...as much as we tried to included them and treat them with love and respect.

Maybe he means in the media? The only thing I can somewhat see is the removal of prayer in school the way we used to have it. I think we should bring it back, but just my two cents.

Then again, I also don't feel oppressed as a white male....so maybe I'm the weird one


Once again, for the people in the back, the world has changed. Ten years ago is an outdated paradigm, let alone your 50 on earth. What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
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What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
Don't disagree that DEI type philosophies have flourished moreso the last five years (And are now kind of rolling over). I guess the question is, how does that in turn make Christians a structurally oppressed group.

No sense in humoring the "most structurally oppressed" group. That statement is ludicrous.
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What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
Don't disagree that DEI type philosophies have flourished moreso the last five years (And are now kind of rolling over). I guess the question is, how does that in turn make Christians a structurally oppressed group.

No sense in humoring the "most structurally oppressed" group. That statement is ludicrous.


Generally speaking, those that place them in an oppression matrix at the top and disfavor them whenever possible are managing companies (and government) right now at bureaucratic levels. I watch regulator panels and news dumps for my job: it's not going anywhere and it's still quite prevalent.

If you have another nominee I'm listening.
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Good for him and those around him. I like this dude.
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AGC said:

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What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
Don't disagree that DEI type philosophies have flourished moreso the last five years (And are now kind of rolling over). I guess the question is, how does that in turn make Christians a structurally oppressed group.

No sense in humoring the "most structurally oppressed" group. That statement is ludicrous.


Generally speaking, those that place them in an oppression matrix at the top and disfavor them whenever possible are managing companies (and government) right now at bureaucratic levels. I watch regulator panels and news dumps for my job: it's not going anywhere and it's still quite prevalent.

If you have another nominee I'm listening.


Do you have any actual evidence that believing Christians are structurally discriminated against? Or is it just vibes because discrimination in general is no longer tolerated? Is this an issue where the discrimination is that you can't discriminate at work?
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Discrimination towards whites and conservatives is very real in the workplace right now. The good news is people are starting to realize how intolerant the DEI supporters are.
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Cynic said:

Discrimination towards whites and conservatives is very real in the workplace right now. The good news is people are starting to realize how intolerant the DEI supporters are.


Very real how? What's your evidence? Because this seems like vibes.
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AGC said:

Generally speaking, those that place them in an oppression matrix at the top and disfavor them whenever possible are managing companies (and government) right now at bureaucratic levels. I watch regulator panels and news dumps for my job: it's not going anywhere and it's still quite prevalent.

If you have another nominee I'm listening.


I have worked at 2 fortune 50 companies, one of the largest private companies and a small bay area public company. I have worked with people from every part of the country. I have not experienced or seen Christianity being placed "at the top of the opression matrix and disfavored whenever possible".

Going back to the clip, I remember seeing it when it happened (it's an old clip), so it must have come across the MSM. But I'm not sure why, as I Christian, should care if the MSM plays the clip or not? It's honestly a smart ass comment.
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AGC said:

BluHorseShu said:

AGC said:

Sapper Redux said:

"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
I have to say, I'm not sure what 'structurally oppressed' means. What I can say, anecdotally, is that in my 50 + years as a Christian, I've never felt remotely oppressed....at least in what my perception of oppression is. Then again, I live in the South so what I saw more often was people who weren't Christian feel out of place...as much as we tried to included them and treat them with love and respect.

Maybe he means in the media? The only thing I can somewhat see is the removal of prayer in school the way we used to have it. I think we should bring it back, but just my two cents.

Then again, I also don't feel oppressed as a white male....so maybe I'm the weird one


Once again, for the people in the back, the world has changed. Ten years ago is an outdated paradigm, let alone your 50 on earth. What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
So you have anecdotes that support your take. I'm just saying I have yet to experience it. And in fact, I have many Christian coworkers and we actively have discussions about faith with no fear of reprisal from company, government or others. In fact we go all together to get Ashes every year. I don't doubt there are places where some weirdo coworker has a fit because someone has a crucifix/cross in their office. I just haven't seen that yet in my 30 years. Plus my kids go to Catholic School so maybe we're just sheltered from the oppression others see.

ETA: So I do have a question then...how are you (or others around you) being oppressed for being a Christian? Serious question. Maybe I'm viewing oppression differently. At least in the workspace, most people accept a degree of some 'oppression' from being free to speak and act as they might outside the workspace.
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Sapper Redux said:

AGC said:

Windy City Ag said:

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What was were fledgling philosophies in the 70s have blossomed and taken root nationwide in government and business. You don't have to spend all your time on F16 to see it; I see it in the corporate world every day and I'm in a secondary or tertiary market, not a major one (but I went to grad school with MHRs and MBAs running stuff there - they're not shy about it).
Don't disagree that DEI type philosophies have flourished moreso the last five years (And are now kind of rolling over). I guess the question is, how does that in turn make Christians a structurally oppressed group.

No sense in humoring the "most structurally oppressed" group. That statement is ludicrous.


Generally speaking, those that place them in an oppression matrix at the top and disfavor them whenever possible are managing companies (and government) right now at bureaucratic levels. I watch regulator panels and news dumps for my job: it's not going anywhere and it's still quite prevalent.

If you have another nominee I'm listening.


Do you have any actual evidence that believing Christians are structurally discriminated against? Or is it just vibes because discrimination in general is no longer tolerated? Is this an issue where the discrimination is that you can't discriminate at work?


Yes but you've proven historically you don't care about it and engage pretty dishonestly. Or maybe you engage in it honestly as best you can, though I'm not sure that's much better.

Your framing here is the tell: not capable of discriminating anymore . You've framed living out the Christian lifestyle, or any religious one really, as one where it's all internal and compartmentalized from the exterior world.

If Christianity has a view of sex and gender associated with morality, to actually live according to it is to discriminate in your mind and you can easily hand waive people fired over pronouns or taking stances on morality of sexual behavior (several university cases, the business world, women's soccer, etc.).

But the argument is already over because of your dishonest framing; clearly they're just evil Christians mistreating others.
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So discrimination against Christians in your mind means you aren't allowed to discriminate against others?
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Sapper Redux said:

So discrimination against Christians in your mind means you aren't allowed to discriminate against others?


When did you stop beating your wife, troll?
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If Christianity has a view of sex and gender associated with morality, to actually live according to it is to discriminate in your mind and you can easily hand waive people fired over pronouns or taking stances on morality of sexual behavior (several university cases, the business world, women's soccer, etc.).

So you are saying you feel structurally oppressed because you cannot communicate your views on homosexuality or transgender people in the workplace? You fear reprisal because of your religious views?

Genuinely curious. . . .
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The only place I've seen obvious "persecution" of Christians in my life is the public sphere when it comes to school prayer and the like. I grew up in a town that was small and rural and 99+% Christian. We had daily prayers all through elementary school over the intercom. Some point around middle school, a single atheist parent became upset about this and the entire thing shut down. Say what you like about laws and Constitution and the like, but a single family getting to dictate behavior to an entire community is ridiculous to me.

The only other thing I've noticed, and I've complained about this before, is the completely legalistic and artificial distinction between religious and secular worldviews. Less than 20% of the country is LGBTQ+, but the US will fly that flag in embassies across the world. However, over 60% of the US is Christian, but the US would never fly the Christian flag from a government building. Public schools and government can actively promote Communism, fascism, racism, gender ideologies, and really any "secular" worldview without the immediate and harsh repercussions they would get from promoting Christianity.

To address this coach, his experience is obviously very different from mine. He is black, has been in the athletics world his whole life, and is basically in an entertainment industry. If it's anything like Hollywood, then he probably noticed a lot of hostility towards traditional Christianity and Christian values. He's probably seen people get in trouble for advocating these, and he may have experienced that himself. If so, it would make perfect sense for him to say what he did. In his direct experience, he's probably seen a lot more overt and direct discrimination and persecution of Christians than against black people.
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AGC said:

Sapper Redux said:

"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
An actual history professor would spend their time outside the classroom writing papers and books, not argue on a college football site's religion subforum. At most he teaches History 101 at the local community college.
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If Christianity has a view of sex and gender associated with morality, to actually live according to it is to discriminate in your mind and you can easily hand waive people fired over pronouns or taking stances on morality of sexual behavior (several university cases, the business world, women's soccer, etc.).

So you are saying you feel structurally oppressed because you cannot communicate your views on homosexuality or transgender people in the workplace? You fear reprisal because of your religious views?

Genuinely curious. . . .


Is it communication or living out religious beliefs? Parse that difference for me if you're "genuinely curious". It's pretty clear to me how I have to live at work and what flags I have to fly for career opportunities and promotion in greater industry.

I asked for other nominations earlier and you didn't provide any.
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The only place I've seen obvious "persecution" of Christians in my life is the public sphere when it comes to school prayer and the like. I grew up in a town that was small and rural and 99+% Christian. We had daily prayers all through elementary school over the intercom. Some point around middle school, a single atheist parent became upset about this and the entire thing shut down. Say what you like about laws and Constitution and the like, but a single family getting to dictate behavior to an entire community is ridiculous to me.
It was not just one atheist parent. It was many nonreligious parents and parents of other religions around the country, and it led to a supreme court case. And no one wanted to prohibit individual students from praying, it's the public endorsement of religion that is problematic. While it may seem annoying, there's not much defending that practice against constitutional scrutiny.
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The only other thing I've noticed, and I've complained about this before, is the completely legalistic and artificial distinction between religious and secular worldviews. Less than 20% of the country is LGBTQ+, but the US will fly that flag in embassies across the world. However, over 60% of the US is Christian, but the US would never fly the Christian flag from a government building. Public schools and government can actively promote Communism, fascism, racism, gender ideologies, and really any "secular" worldview without the immediate and harsh repercussions they would get from promoting Christianity.
Well, the USA shouldn't fly a Christian flag at government buildings because it would suggest an established religion. I also think it's dumb and virtue signal-y to do the same for gay pride flags.

I don't agree with the contention that public schools are actively "promoting" communism, fascism, gender ideology, or any ideology openly hostile toward religion. I think that is mostly fearmongering that comes from teachers doing their jobs and teaching about things that make people uncomfortable, such as the dark parts of US history, or teaching about communism and fascism in a historical (and present day) context. That's not the same as openly promoting these ideas.

And yes, I agree that teachers should not display pride flags or any political messages in the classroom. I don't think it's particularly common, but either way it's not appropriate.
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To address this coach, his experience is obviously very different from mine. He is black, has been in the athletics world his whole life, and is basically in an entertainment industry. If it's anything like Hollywood, then he probably noticed a lot of hostility towards traditional Christianity and Christian values. He's probably seen people get in trouble for advocating these, and he may have experienced that himself. If so, it would make perfect sense for him to say what he did. In his direct experience, he's probably seen a lot more overt and direct discrimination and persecution of Christians than against black people.
So I don't mean to be combative, but where exactly do people get the idea that there is hostility toward Christians in professional athletics? Athletes openly give thanks to God ALL THE TIME in postgame interviews. They pray before games. Some of them have crosses or bible verses tattooed on them. I've never heard of a player or coach getting in trouble for being open about their faith. I really am not buying this persecution argument.
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It was not just one atheist parent. It was many nonreligious parents and parents around the country, and it led to a supreme court case. And no one wanted to prohibit individual students from praying, it's the public endorsement of religion that is problematic. While it may seem annoying, there's not much defending that practice against constitutional scrutiny.
In my community it was one atheist parent. I'm not a Constitutionalist, and I don't worship at that altar. One family in a community dictating terms to the entire rest of the community is tyranny in my mind, whether it's Constitutional or not. Also note your reaction to the flags. Flying a Christian flag is forbidden. Flying a pride flag is distasteful. These are worldviews in direct opposition and usually very hostile to each other. Allowing a platform to one and denying it to the other counts as persecution in the mildest sense

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I don't agree with the contention that public schools are actively "promoting" communism, fascism, gender ideology, or any ideology openly hostile toward religion. I think that is mostly fearmongering that comes from teachers doing their jobs and teaching about things that make people uncomfortable, such as the dark parts of US history, or teaching about communism and fascism in a historical (and present day) context. That's not the same as openly promoting these ideas.
From K to medical school, I've only ever attended public schools. I've had teachers on public school payrolls teaching communism and socialism, and I've had plenty of "ethics" teachers that directly teach utilitarian morality. I'm speaking at least partly from direct experience, and from what I hear it's only gotten worse. 2/3 of all universities require classes on racism, feminism, or sexuality, including plenty of public universities. If 2/3 of universities required a Christian apologetics course, there would be wide outrage.

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So I don't mean to be combative, but where exactly do people get the idea that there is hostility toward Christians in professional athletics? Athletes openly give thanks to God ALL THE TIME in postgame interviews. They pray before games. Some of them have crosses or bible verses tattooed on them. I've never heard of a player or coach getting in trouble for being open about their faith. I really am not buying this persecution argument.
I've can't comment as I've never been in that world. However, Coach Mazzulla has been in that world his whole life. He says it's a problem. Do you have direct knowledge that contradicts his experience? Because it sounds like you are just assuming that it's no big deal, even when someone with more experience than you is directly telling you that it's a problem. It's one thing to say that his experience isn't broadly applicable to society at large, and it's quite another to say that his feelings based on his own experience are invalid "just because"
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Is it communication or living out religious beliefs? Parse that difference for me if you're "genuinely curious". It's pretty clear to me how I have to live at work and what flags I have to fly for career opportunities and promotion in greater industry.

I asked for other nominations earlier and you didn't provide any.

Well, narrowing it down to just the workplace makes it a more interesting claim. Structural oppression, in my view, this is a much broader topic regarding educational opportunity, workplace opportunity, etc, but we can go there.

I can think of many groups that would not be able to express their views in a similar manner.

Muslims probably cannot uncork their true views on Israel and Zionism. They have been fired over their prayer breaks. They have been forbidden in certain cases to wear headscarves that are important to them. This is in addition to all the documented cases of Islamophobia in the workplace.

Ageism is a bigger deal in my mind. Someone in their late 50s (no matter their relgion) is going to face a whole lot more roadblocks than younger Christian.

This avoids the more noxious groups that don't get to speak up naturally.

I will say in each case their is some sort of viewpoint that is protected in the public sphere but cannot extend into the workplace, which makes Christian feelings really not all that unique.





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Is it communication or living out religious beliefs? Parse that difference for me if you're "genuinely curious".

Communication is obviously a subset of the living out part.

I had a rather odd dude I worked with a few years back. Our workplace was very progressive.

He was brilliant . . PhDs from the best schools and raised in a Jewish household. He ended up leaving his family and then a few years later converting to a highly conservative Baptist church. I would see him at the train station handing out literature on the evils of homosexuality and abortion and preaching on the streets sometimes. Once he went into the office, however, he would fire up his PC and do his job and everything was fine with everyone and he got promoted several times. No one went after him for what he did outside the workplace, but they would have if he brought his proselytism into the lunch room at work. That is the distinction to me. He was not oppressed for being a conservative Baptist. He would have been "oppressed" if he used that status to violate workplace norms and legal obligations of corporations to protected classes.

This is an aside, but your statements do presuppose some overarching and uniform viewpoint in "Christianity" which we know is not the case. It is hard to make a blanket statement on the point when Christians themselves can't agree on many of the topics.
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Martin Q. Blank said:

AGC said:

Sapper Redux said:

"Most structurally oppressed group…" How? We have people here declaring we are a "Christian nation" founded and intended to be as such. So what exactly defines Christianity as structurally oppressed?


You act like the world hasn't changed in 200 years. I understand it's necessary to preserve your worldview but it really undermines your points when you claim to be an expert on history. What exactly do you teach again professor?
An actual history professor would spend their time outside the classroom writing papers and books, not argue on a college football site's religion subforum. At most he teaches History 101 at the local community college.


Lol. Do you know many professors on a personal level? It's not writing books 24/7. People can take breaks and have things they enjoy.
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AGC said:

Windy City Ag said:

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If Christianity has a view of sex and gender associated with morality, to actually live according to it is to discriminate in your mind and you can easily hand waive people fired over pronouns or taking stances on morality of sexual behavior (several university cases, the business world, women's soccer, etc.).

So you are saying you feel structurally oppressed because you cannot communicate your views on homosexuality or transgender people in the workplace? You fear reprisal because of your religious views?

Genuinely curious. . . .


Is it communication or living out religious beliefs? Parse that difference for me if you're "genuinely curious". It's pretty clear to me how I have to live at work and what flags I have to fly for career opportunities and promotion in greater industry.

I asked for other nominations earlier and you didn't provide any.


So is the issue that you can't discriminate against certain people? Because I've known practicing Christians everywhere I've worked and they've never faced discrimination for being practicing Christians. The only time an issue would arise is if they attempted to use their religion as an excuse to discriminate against someone in an official capacity.
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