Did the Nephilim Build the Megaliths?
Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA
Do you have data or links to support your arguments that:ramblin_ag02 said:
I agree 100%. It's also fascinating to follow the trends in intelligence and over all health in people as civilization progresses. For the most part, the hunter gatherers where as intelligent and healthy as any modern day person. Nomadic peoples continued to show this vigor through all of history. However, the initial switch to agriculture limited nutrients, but allowed population to increase. There were more people, but each individual had less nutrition and more exposure to local toxins such as lead. So there is a significant drop off in health and intelligence with the advent of agriculture. This improved and declined sporadically but had an overall slow improvement as far flung trade and better agricultural practices were slowly developed. The industrial revolution then lead to another big drop in health and intelligence due to urban crowding causing disease, a shoddy urban food supply, and near starvation level wages. It's only been since WW2 that we are seeing people get back to the "baseline" levels that our genetics can support when we have good nutrition and a relatively toxin free environment.
Because not everyone believes as you do?Rocag said:
One of the things that most annoys me about this "Ancient Aliens" type nonsense is how it infantilizes ancient civilizations and supports this idea that people in the past were less intelligent and less creative than modern people are. But we have no reason to think that is true for any person living in the last 50,000 years or so. They were pretty much the same as we are today, just living in different circumstances.
We don't need theories about aliens or supernatural beings to explain ancient cultures and the things they built. They're just completely unnecessary. Take the pyramids, for example. We have clear examples of the periods of trial and error they went through as they came up with the design and figured out how to build them. You can go to Egypt for yourself and see the ancient mastabas from which the idea of the pyramid grew. You can also see the ruins of pyramids where the builders messed up the design or used subpar materials.
The people of the past were no less mentally capable than the people living today. Why posit they had help from an outside source when it isn't necessary to explain their achievements?
I think they lacked the hardware/tech. And yes, the data collected by Farsight Institute using a technique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute for military espionage purposes.......clearly suggests this to be the case. For many of these structures around the planet, we simply did not do it on our own.Rocag said:
Do you believe the people living up to 10000 years in the past lacked the intelligence and creativity necessary to build large scale structures and projects? If so, why?
Not a scholarly research article, but this reflects the consensusJabin said:Do you have data or links to support your arguments that:ramblin_ag02 said:
I agree 100%. It's also fascinating to follow the trends in intelligence and over all health in people as civilization progresses. For the most part, the hunter gatherers where as intelligent and healthy as any modern day person. Nomadic peoples continued to show this vigor through all of history. However, the initial switch to agriculture limited nutrients, but allowed population to increase. There were more people, but each individual had less nutrition and more exposure to local toxins such as lead. So there is a significant drop off in health and intelligence with the advent of agriculture. This improved and declined sporadically but had an overall slow improvement as far flung trade and better agricultural practices were slowly developed. The industrial revolution then lead to another big drop in health and intelligence due to urban crowding causing disease, a shoddy urban food supply, and near starvation level wages. It's only been since WW2 that we are seeing people get back to the "baseline" levels that our genetics can support when we have good nutrition and a relatively toxin free environment.
- People had "less nutrition" with the advent of agriculture?
- The industrial revolution led to a big drop in health and intelligence?
- The industrial revolution led to "near starvation level wages"?
- That it's only since WW2 that "we are seeing people get back to the 'baseline" levels that our genetcis can support"?
Everything I've read so far contradicts each of those 4 points, so I would like to learn more and figure out which perspective is more accurate.
Thanks.
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When biological anthropologist Clark Spencer Larsen of Ohio State University describes the dawn of agriculture, it's a grim picture. As the earliest farmers became dependent on crops, their diets became far less nutritionally diverse than hunter-gatherers' diets. Eating the same domesticated grain every day gave early farmers cavities and periodontal disease rarely found in hunter-gatherers, says Larsen. When farmers began domesticating animals, those cattle, sheep, and goats became sources of milk and meat but also of parasites and new infectious diseases. Farmers suffered from iron deficiency and developmental delays, and they shrank in stature.
Despite boosting population numbers, the lifestyle and diet of farmers were clearly not as healthy as the lifestyle and diet of hunter-gatherers. That farmers produced more babies, Larsen says, is simply evidence that "you don't have to be disease free to have children."
Most of my information regarding starvation wages during the early industrial revolution comes from podcasts. I'll have to look around for written sources. Off the top of my head, a discussed of the Irish immigration to NYC in the early 1800s lead to a dozen or more people living in small apartments, rampant child labor, and men dying by their 30s in droves.Quote:
Contemporary reports from England during the 1830 s and 1840 s noted the poor health of the working classes including decreased stature (Lindert and Williamson, 1983, Lindert, 1994, Flinn, 1965, Floud and Harris, 1997). In 1845 Engels (1969:127) stated that industrial working conditions "have placed the workers under conditions in which they can neither retain health nor live long; that it undermines the vital force of these workers gradually, little by little, and so hurries them to the grave before their time". This is supported by economic history research in the 20th century: while there was a general increase in adult male stature over the course of the industrial period, there was a decline in stature during the second quarter of the 19th century, corresponding with the period of rapid urbanization and the writing of the historical reports noted above (Floud and Harris, 1997). These reports attest to the overall decline in health;
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The average lead-linked loss in cognitive ability was 2.6 IQ points per person as of 2015. This amounted to a total loss of 824,097,690 IQ points, disproportionately endured by those born between 1951 and 1980.
We had assistance.Rocag said:
There's nothing about the pyramids that couldn't have been built with relatively low tech solutions. There's plenty of videos out there showing people moving around huge stone blocks with relative ease just using simple tools and leverage. Someone remote viewing them isn't going to change that.
And this is part of the problem. People legitimately underestimate what can be done with simple tools, a lot of manpower, and years of time to put them to work.
jkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
Let's get past a simple general disclosure and acceptance of the reality first. I'd love to get the chance to ask them multiple questions, though not sure this would be one.jkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
Leonard H. Stringfield said:Let's get past a simple general disclosure and acceptance of the reality first. I'd love to get the chance to ask them multiple questions, though not sure this would be one.jkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
Why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures you asked. I don't know. I'd watch the video I've linked. Why has et been involved over thousands, perhaps millions of years in our evolution, implementing at least 3 of the world's major religions, disabled our nuclear tipped ICBMs, warned us telepathically via some children that we are doing great harm to the planet.....etc, etc, I'd say when that information is available, there will be a high probability that it will find it's way here on TA. Just doing to work of an evangelist..jkag89 said:Leonard H. Stringfield said:Let's get past a simple general disclosure and acceptance of the reality first. I'd love to get the chance to ask them multiple questions, though not sure this would be one.jkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
Part of getting doubters to accept the "reality" is to eliminate objections. A good way of doing this is not to side step questions.
I'm not going to waste my time on a 2+ hour video especially considering the track record of many videos you've posted which tend to be the equivalent of a wall of text.Quote:
I'd watch the video I've linked.
Unlike you, I don't accept any of this as established verifiable facts.Quote:
Why has et been involved over thousands, perhaps millions of years in our evolution, implementing at least 3 of the world's major religions, disabled our nuclear tipped ICBMs, warned us telepathically via some children that we are doing great harm to the planet.....etc, etc, I'd say when that information is available, there will be a high probability that it will find it's way here on TA.
You're doing a poor job then.Quote:
Just doing to work of an evangelist..
The Ancient Astronaut theory is complete garbage. EveryQuote:
Many ignore what is referred to The Ancient Astronaut theory. History Channel has produced a whole series, Ancient Aliens, which has continued to be very popular over several years discussing the theories. I wouldn't be surprised if much of that is legit and some even dove-tails nicely with what has been done at Farsight.
This always makes me laugh. Aliens travel across the vast distances of space to teach us to use stone as a building material and to stack it. They could have at least taught us something cool like wifi or carbon nanotubes or mathjkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
Unless they didn't choose to? Would we give a chimp a cell phone?ramblin_ag02 said:This always makes me laugh. Aliens travel across the vast distances of space to teach us to use stone as a building material and to stack it. They could have at least taught us something cool like wifi or carbon nanotubes or mathjkag89 said:
So why did ET help ancient humans build huge stone structures? Why not something more like modern structures or maybe the simple use of cement?
awesomeramblin_ag02 said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BeAmazed/comments/bgy9pr/ape_using_a_smartphone/
PabloSerna said:
St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas teach:
1. "Sons of God" were the noble and righteous (human) sons of Seth.
2. "Daughters of Men" were the female daughters of the (human) sons of Cain.
3. "Nephilim" were the (human) decedents of these two groups.
Very Important:
4. Angels, fallen or not, cannot copulate with women, lest you deny that God is the God of life. Never mind that they are pure spirit and that only God can give them form.
5. Remember that Jesus said, a house divided cannot stand when addressing if Beelzebub (demon) gave Jesus the power to cast out demons. (Mt 12:22-28). Therefore it follows that God's hand cannot create "evil" giants.
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This is a mixture of Greek and Hebrew legends that used symbolic language to understand how people like the Philistines came into power. What happened to them and why God flooded the earth.
PabloSerna said:
There is no demon sperm.
Leonard H. Stringfield said:
One of the best remote viewers ever gives his thoughts here. Fascinating target via our CIA.