So would the people in schmendler's post.
A ton of projection there. I just want my family to have their rights. And I do not want schools teaching sex education of any sort until they are more mature. I do not want to protest, or harm or anything like that.Beer Baron said:
So basically, you just want to scream at them no matter what they do then. I mean, I know you personally want to do much more than scream at them, but the collective "you" want to scream at them no matter what.
Beer Baron said:
So basically, you just want to scream at them no matter what they do then. I mean, I know you personally want to do much more than scream at them, but the collective "you" want to scream at them no matter what.
TxAgPreacher said:
How many pages are you going to attack our faith, and then pretend its not under attack?
What did John Money, big queer theory guy , do to the Reimer boys?Macarthur said:
The hyperbole is incredible here.
TxAgPreacher said:
Engage in the argument. You have no right to harm.
Explain why traditional families are bad/do harm, and how queer theory is good/does not harm.
This isnt a free speech issue. You can say what you want. I'm agaisnt the practice of harm. I'm attacking the ideology because its harmful, when put into practice. Words are words, but we are butchering a generation of young people and I'm against the cruel barbaric practices. Believe what you want but leave the innocent alone.
Defend queer theory.
Queer theory is against all that is normal. It is fundamentally subversive.kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
Engage in the argument. You have no right to harm.
Explain why traditional families are bad/do harm, and how queer theory is good/does not harm.
This isnt a free speech issue. You can say what you want. I'm agaisnt the practice of harm. I'm attacking the ideology because its harmful, when put into practice. Words are words, but we are butchering a generation of young people and I'm against the cruel barbaric practices. Believe what you want but leave the innocent alone.
Defend queer theory.
hahaha. . .
I'm not saying traditional families are bad and that they do harm. Queer theory is fundamentally against it.
I don't have a definition of queer theory. It strikes me as one of those terms like critical race theory where it means 100 different things to a 100 different people. Even if it was a clear cut definition, I no more see it as my position to define queer theory than I do to define Christianity. Christians get to define Christianity and queers can define queer theory as far as I'm concerned.
TxAgPreacher said:
Queer theory is against all that is normal. It is fundamentally subversive.
kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
Queer theory is against all that is normal. It is fundamentally subversive.
Thats your opinion. What do you want me to do with that?
DeProfundis said:kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
Queer theory is against all that is normal. It is fundamentally subversive.
Thats your opinion. What do you want me to do with that?
Do your own research. Read the quotes I posted above from the founders of queer theory. Much like critical theory it exists to challenge established norms by viewing everything through the lens of power differentials, with sexual and racial issues and morality being artifacts of the white patriarchy.
Argue what point? At this stage in the discussion you are just yelling angrily that we disagree with you.TxAgPreacher said:
They cannot argue the point, they can only mock.
kurt vonnegut said:DeProfundis said:kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
Queer theory is against all that is normal. It is fundamentally subversive.
Thats your opinion. What do you want me to do with that?
Do your own research. Read the quotes I posted above from the founders of queer theory. Much like critical theory it exists to challenge established norms by viewing everything through the lens of power differentials, with sexual and racial issues and morality being artifacts of the white patriarchy.
Whats the point? If I do my own research and read your quotes and come to a different conclusion, will you accept that? Or will I still be wrong?
Queer theory is harmful. Address a single point from the video.kurt vonnegut said:Argue what point? At this stage in the discussion you are just yelling angrily that we disagree with you.TxAgPreacher said:
They cannot argue the point, they can only mock.
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You have to accept my ideology its just as good as yours!
I did say that. Does this upset you?Quote:
You cannot tell me what to do!
And never said that.Quote:
You have to allow all subversive lifestyles no matter how harmful!
TxAgPreacher said:Queer theory is harmful. Address a single point from the video.kurt vonnegut said:Argue what point? At this stage in the discussion you are just yelling angrily that we disagree with you.TxAgPreacher said:
They cannot argue the point, they can only mock.
TxAgPreacher said:
All I see is deliberate obfuscation. If someone wants to comment on the video, or discuss the ideology behind queer theory then I'll bite.
Otherwise carry on mocking, and ad homing, without making any arguments.
This is why I'm a Christian Sympathizer.TxAgPreacher said:
Yes I'm the boogeyman.
Actually I just want to nudge people in the right direction. Show them a better way. Keep them from destroying themselves with sin. Save their soul.
You seem awfully judgmental, and uncharitable with your aspersions for someone who calls everyone else hateful.
kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
All I see is deliberate obfuscation. If someone wants to comment on the video, or discuss the ideology behind queer theory then I'll bite.
Otherwise carry on mocking, and ad homing, without making any arguments.
We went through 10 pages of back and forth where I feel I engaged with your arguments. And at the 11th hour you've posted a video and your furious that no one has watched it and engaged with it yet?
There is no obfuscation or dodging. I just don't think there is any more point to this discussion.
A rejection of societal all norms.kurt vonnegut said:
Ok, spent my drive home listening to the video. The host appears to never have explicitly defined queer theory, but ascribed many things to it. Broadly, it sounded to me, like an ideology of rejection of norms. Perhaps starting with the rejection of norms about gender identity, but stretching into support of anarchy, pedophilia, and anything else considered to be a norm. He even lumped a rejection to pay the normal sales tax into the definition of queer theory. The host seemed almost clear that many queers reject 'queer theory' which makes me think that his definition on queer theory has very little to do with being queer and might simply be defined as indiscriminate rejection of social norms.
I also spent some time listening to a few different videos which were supposed to define queer theory for me. These definitions ascribed the idea specifically to the rejection of gender norms and said nothing about rejection of other norms.
. . . All of this to say that I don't know how to respond to your questions about queer theory, because I don't know how you define it. I have different reactions to the different definitions I gathered from the different videos.
Can you, in your own words, explain what queer theory is?
It may have been the birth pangs of postmodernism in this country. Not all societal norms are good, and not all are bad, but the family, and gender roles are not to be tampered with. The traditional family is the backbone of civilization. Science has proven that the best outcomes come from the traditional family. It brings stability It has stood the test of time in the best way possible.schmendeler said:
Was the acceptance of miscegenation queer theory?