So a safe space. What you want is a safe space. Like the ones snowflakes want.
This needs consolidation, it has reached ridiculous levels of something.DeProfundis said:TxAgPreacher said:Beer Baron said:Can we just get a list of dates that will hurt your fee fees if other people do things on them too? I know y'all like to complain about Christmas being over commercialized, but for our purposes here I'm assuming everything is off limits to anyone but Christians starting the day after Halloween when stores start decorating, all the way up through Epiphany.TxAgPreacher said:barbacoa taco said:
For everyone mad about this, you can rest assured, transgender day of visibility will not fall on the same date as Easter again until 2086.
https://www.census.gov/data/software/x13as/genhol/easter-dates.html#par_textimage_1067001717
How about good friday? How about any day during holy week?
Any day outside of a one month window is fine. Leaves over 300 days to choose.
My point was its antagonistic on purpose anyone honest would admit that.
To be fair you do have to shoehorn them into the other recognized days
TxAgPreacher said:
Yes I want to protect my kids from evil.
Do you count every Sunday?Sapper Redux said:
Now let's look at a list of saints' days.
Plus all the same type of BS, made-up, "here's a way for our social media people team to push out a hashtag" days that aren't that different from the one that they're so worked up about. Just look at all these. June 4 is "National Christian T-Shirt Day." Right in the middle of Pride Month! I can't wait to lose my mind when that one gets here! And don't forget National Day of Praise and Worship on September 26 - a clear slap in the face to LGBT people everywhere a mere three weeks after Freddie Mercury's Birthday. They knew exactly what they were doing with that one.Sapper Redux said:
Now let's look at a list of saints' days.
Beer Baron said:Probably because it thinks trans people are more important than ferrets. I would tend to agree.Quote:
In your opinion why hasn't the White House made a proclamation about National Ferret Day? Why that day but not this day? Why aren't we lighting up our cities skylines in celebration of Ferret Day do you think?
Presidents to proclamations for all kinds of things. Even Christian things. Here's a lovely one President Trump did on the National Day of Prayer.
Oops, sorry, that was President Biden, who I'm sure will do so again this May long after you've put this very upsetting episode behind you.
This gem always gets tossed out there as if there weren't gay and trans people the whole time we were living in the good ole days of official and severe repression and marginalization.Quote:
The reason the White House chose to cast a spotlight on transgenderism, is because its survival relies on its pervasiveness. It's an ideology that can't spread but through the indoctrination of other people's children. And the White House knows what I and other Christians know. That cultural norms inform our children's consciences.
TxAgPreacher said:
Secular people should agree, because the ideology behind transsexualism is harmful to them too!
Beer Baron said:So you're creating a space for your kids then. One that's safe from certain things. Is there a term for such a place?TxAgPreacher said:
I don't want my kids, or any other person to be exposed to a harmful ideology, and I'm not afraid to say that the transsexual ideology is harmful.
It's also a good example of why just just teaching your kids what you think is right and wrong isn't enough, and they have to supplement that with the "oppress the 'bad' groups into the edges of society (or worse)" approach. Kids tend to do that annoying thing where they grow up and form their own opinions about things, and if we give them the space to do that, they might think what you taught them was a bunch of crap. It's not just happening with issues like LGBT rights or others, it's happening with religion itself overall. Kids in general grow up to be less religious than their parents, and they hate that.schmendeler said:
The truth is that it's always projection with them. Religious ideology is the one that has to be put on children for it to propagate.
Sapper Redux said:
Now let's look at a list of saints' days.
schmendeler said:
The truth is that it's always projection with them. Religious ideology is the one that has to be put on children for it to propagate.
Beer Baron said:It's also a good example of why just just teaching your kids what you think is right and wrong isn't enough, and they have to supplement that with the "oppress the 'bad' groups into the edges of society (or worse)" approach. Kids tend to do that annoying thing where they grow up and form their own opinions about things, and if we give them the space to do that, they might think what you taught them was a bunch of crap. It's not just happening with issues like LGBT rights or others, it's happening with religion itself overall. Kids in general grow up to be less religious than their parents, and they hate that.schmendeler said:
The truth is that it's always projection with them. Religious ideology is the one that has to be put on children for it to propagate.
The real cruelty is when children are pressured to have life changing surgery that cannot ever be totally repaired.Sapper Redux said:TxAgPreacher said:
Secular people should agree, because the ideology behind transsexualism is harmful to them too!
The way folks like you treat transgender people as borderline non-humans is disturbing.
Rongagin71 said:The real cruelty is when children are pressured to have life changing surgery that cannot ever be totally repaired.Sapper Redux said:TxAgPreacher said:
Secular people should agree, because the ideology behind transsexualism is harmful to them too!
The way folks like you treat transgender people as borderline non-humans is disturbing.
Beer Baron said:
I don't doubt that the ones that go are passionate about it, but I disagree that it's only the ones who hardly ever went in the first place who are just formally severing a tenuous cultural connection. Those people are certainly there, but there are also plenty who were raised going to church every single Sunday (and then some), for whom it didn't "take" once they reached adulthood and could make their own decisions.
I think that's one way Christians are shooting themselves in the foot with this hardline, constant purification cycle thing they're in. For people who aren't already in it, it doesn't seem welcoming or necessary, so you're left relying heavily on the kids who are raised in it to replenish your numbers. Any attrition among them hurts, and then you're left with the hardcore ones who further alienate outsiders and more moderate people within. Rinse, repeat.
I disagree, but I really, really hope y'all keep thinking that and behaving accordingly.Quote:
Orthodoxy isn't what's alienating people. It's bad theology.
Beer Baron said:
I don't doubt that the ones that go are passionate about it, but I disagree that it's only the ones who hardly ever went in the first place who are just formally severing a tenuous cultural connection. Those people are certainly there, but there are also plenty who were raised going to church every single Sunday (and then some), for whom it didn't "take" once they reached adulthood and could make their own decisions.
I think that's one way Christians are shooting themselves in the foot with this hardline, constant purification cycle thing they're in. For people who aren't already in it, it doesn't seem welcoming or necessary, so you're left relying heavily on the kids who are raised in it to replenish your numbers. Any attrition among them hurts, and then you're left with the hardcore ones who further alienate outsiders and more moderate people within. Rinse, repeat.
Good for y'all. We'll see how many stick with it into adulthood. Like I said, kids have that nasty habit of growing up to be their own people sometimes, and unless you form your own Duggar-like compound, it's hard to stop them from doing that. I get that you're working very hard to create a bubble for them like that town in that movie The Village, but most people just aren't doing that. Large families used to be very common and some of those kids grew up to not be as into the whole religion thing as their parents were, so just having a lot of kids and raising them a certain way doesn't guarantee you your little army.Quote:
Of the 5 between 30-34 they have a total of 21 kids. We're making our own army of fundamentalist Shi'ite Catholics
TxAgPreacher said:
My church is very traditional, and growing.
I think it's the most liberal who are leaving the faith entirely. Which is good. They weren't practicing anyways, and now they wont influence the more gullible.
A little leaven, leavens the whole lump.
Rocag said:
In American Christianity, persecution is when other people don't inconvenience themselves to make accommodations for you.
This day is every March 31st. Get over yourselves.
TxAgPreacher said:
I don't want my kids, or any other person to be exposed to a harmful ideology, and I'm not afraid to say that the transsexual ideology is harmful.
kurt vonnegut said:TxAgPreacher said:
I don't want my kids, or any other person to be exposed to a harmful ideology, and I'm not afraid to say that the transsexual ideology is harmful.
Do you get to decide what ideologies my children are exposed to? Or anyone's other than yours?
This thread is about extending basic freedom of speech and freedom of belief to everyone. The ideology that I find truly harmful is the one that says that 'because I know I'm right, I should be able to deny you the same freedoms that I enjoy'. I think its arrogant and disgusting.
The difference between the Christians and atheists in this thread is that EVERY single atheist here would fight to support your right to practice your faith. And I think we would be hard pressed to find a single Christian is this particular thread who would lift a finger to protect someone else's right to engage in one of the 'wrong' or 'harmful' ideologies.
schmendeler said:
The truth is that it's always projection with them. Religious ideology is the one that has to be put on children for it to propagate.