Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
90 minute video refutes Catholic doctrines
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It's ill informed Catholic bashers like you that drove me to The Holy Roman Catholic Church.
Being in TexAgs jail changes a man……..no, not really
B-1 83 said:
It's ill informed Catholic bashers like you that drove me to The Holy Roman Catholic Church.
It's easy to be a Catholic when one refutes the Bible.
B-1 83 said:
It's ill informed Catholic bashers like you that drove me to The Holy Roman Catholic Church.
Verses like the one below mean nothing to devoted Catholics, who follow and share doctrines nowhere found in the original scriptures. Just make up whatever and go with it!
Now go pray to Mary.
Galatians 1:8-9 esv
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
Bob Lee said:
I watched 15 minutes of his "rebuttal" and he hasn't rebutted anything.
On another note...
The Quran says that Jesus is only a prophet and is NOT the path to salvation. The Pope is supposed to be the "Vicar" of Christ here on Earth and here he is kissing that blasphemous book of LIES. Jesus would NEVER kiss that abomination. pic.twitter.com/sjM9MfNEMw
— Buckeye66 (@Buckeye662) June 13, 2023
Your tantrum tonight is sad on many levels. It's equally malicious and lazy. Gonna put you in my Rosary tonight you need some special graces to come your way.
M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
Great news is we're all going to convert in the end anyway, according to you, so we're gonna be alright. We can all rest easy
jrico2727 said:
Your tantrum tonight is sad on many levels. It's equally malicious and lazy. Gonna put you in my Rosary tonight you need some special graces to come your way.
Praying the Rosary is nowhere in the Bible. So why do you practice that doctrine and ignore Paul?
Galatians 1:8-9 esv
8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed.
The Banned said:M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
Great news is we're all going to convert in the end anyway, according to you, so we're gonna be alright. We can all rest easy
Not according to me, according to Paul in 1 Corinthians 15.
Catholics are easily misled because they don't stick to the Bible.
M1Buckeye said:
Catholics are easily misled because they don't stick to the Bible.
What is "The Bible"? What is Scripture?
How many books are in your Bible??
OT= ??
NT= ??
OT+NT= ??
M1Buckeye said:
Catholics are easily misled because they don't stick to the Bible.
Again, according to how you interpret what Paul says, this is of temporal importance only. All of our eternal souls are destined for eternal glory with God.
I hate even typing that out, as I do not want to take God's promises lightly. I just want to make it perfectly clear that you condemn Catholics for something that results in a finite purification that ultimately leads to eternal bliss. I commend your desire to put your version of the truth out there, but if you are correct I'm not sure why anyone should be overly concerned with being wrong.
The Banned said:M1Buckeye said:
Catholics are easily misled because they don't stick to the Bible.
Again, according to how you interpret what Paul says, this is of temporal importance only. All of our eternal souls are destined for eternal glory with God.
I hate even typing that out, as I do not want to take God's promises lightly. I just want to make it perfectly clear that you condemn Catholics for something that results in a finite purification that ultimately leads to eternal bliss. I commend your desire to put your version of the truth out there, but if you are correct I'm not sure why anyone should be overly concerned with being wrong.
To say that I "condemn" Catholics is untrue and unfair. It's a lie.
Fine. You don't "condemn" Catholics. You believe Catholics spend a certain amount of time in a purification process (by the way, do you think purgatory is a lie?) before ultimately being saved. If they change their beliefs during their life, they'll be spared this purification.
You spend a large amount of time here condemning (yes I used it again) a belief system that has absolutely zero eternal consequences to those who believe it.
You spend a large amount of time here condemning (yes I used it again) a belief system that has absolutely zero eternal consequences to those who believe it.
The Banned said:
Fine. You don't "condemn" Catholics. You believe Catholics spend a certain amount of time in a purification process (by the way, do you think purgatory is a lie?) before ultimately being saved. If they change their beliefs during their life, they'll be spared this purification.
You spend a large amount of time here condemning (yes I used it again) a belief system that has absolutely zero eternal consequences to those who believe it.
Not true my brother.
There are MANY Godly people in the Catholic Church, MANY! When they die they're going straight to Heaven, or so I believe. Many other Godly people go straight to Heaven. Only the wicked are denied Heaven and I believe they remain DEAD in the ground until the second resurrection. I DO believe in purification by Jesus. It's everywhere in the Bible. However, for faithful believers in Jesus (and perhaps even other "good" non-Christians) they are purified by Jesus in an INSTANT!
The wicked, however, go through an entirely different process. They face death, judgment, and then time in the Lake of Fire, which is a place we don't know much about other than it is to be avoided and that it is the only way to purify and save the truly lost sheep. Remember, Jesus said he won't stop looking until ALL are found!
M1Buckeye said:
Catholics are easily misled because they don't stick to the Bible.
Faithful Ag said:
What is "The Bible"? What is Scripture?
How many books are in your Bible??
OT= ??
NT= ??
OT+NT= ??
The Banned, I have been roundly attacked and literally CONDEMNED by Baptists and others for sharing the truth that nobody is ETERNALLY punished/dead. I've been banned more than once for sharing that theology even though the Bible is very clear that ALL will be with God in the end. One of my favorite chapters on this is 1 Corinthians 15. It as an amazing revelation for us!
I'm sure your intent is good. But unfortunately this video is the same as many many videos put out by protestants for the last 30 plus years. Its full of misinterpretations of Catholic doctrine (what is an isn't actual dogma), scripture, and things taken out of context to prove a point. All it does is reaffirm the misinformation and biases of those who have already been told the Catholic Church is bad, but it doesn't 1) move the dial for those already in the Church or 2) drive new converts to Christianity.M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
There's too much in it to refute in an online discussion (kind of the Gish Gallop tactic). I get that you may be posting this as a warning that people in the Church are deceived by its doctrines. But I can tell you, coming from being an evangelical Baptist more than half my life, that I found far more scriptural support for the Church when I took the time to look into it, and I only did this because of my love for Christ and all that he has blessed me with. In doing so I also discovered a great more in common between Catholics and many Protestant denominations than most people realize, we just tend to use different terms and descriptions for the same things.
God bless.
BluHorseShu said:I'm sure your intent is good. But unfortunately this video is the same as many many videos put out by protestants for the last 30 plus years. Its full of misinterpretations of Catholic doctrine (what is an isn't actual dogma), scripture, and things taken out of context to prove a point. All it does is reaffirm the misinformation and biases of those who have already been told the Catholic Church is bad, but it doesn't 1) move the dial for those already in the Church or 2) drive new converts to Christianity.M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
There's too much in it to refute in an online discussion (kind of the Gish Gallop tactic). I get that you may be posting this as a warning that people in the Church are deceived by its doctrines. But I can tell you, coming from being an evangelical Baptist more than half my life, that I found far more scriptural support for the Church when I took the time to look into it, and I only did this because of my love for Christ and all that he has blessed me with. In doing so I also discovered a great more in common between Catholics and many Protestant denominations than most people realize, we just tend to use different terms and descriptions for the same things.
God bless.
May God bless you as well my brother.
Jack Chick, is that you?
The "Death Cookie" or the various Halloween tracts are the most underappreciated works of literature ever produced. Or they would be if they were satires rather than works written for witnessing the Christian Faith.
I prefer Mike Winger. He actually goes into the source material and spent a lot of time and his own money trying to figure out what true RCC doctrine is.
I'm amused that the thumbnail image of this video shows a contradiction: Pope Francis (who has come out against the Latin Mass) and an army of altar boys likely serving at a Latin Mass. Or is this an image of him ticked off at those altar boys? Either way.... lolololol... and I've seen certain commentators elsewhere on the internet that see the two apparently contradicting portions of the image as two different religions claiming the name Catholic.M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
lobopride said:
I prefer Mike Winger. He actually goes into the source material and spent a lot of time and his own money trying to figure out what true RCC doctrine is.
Winger believes in eternal punishment and so I question his discernment.
M1Buckeye said:
Don't listen if you're committed to the Catholic Church as you will dislike having their teachings disputed.
Don't worry. It's not just the committed Catholics who won't be listening.
Why the obsession with this M1?
You are bearing false witness against thy neighbor, better to focus on your faith walk and leave your grievances behind.
You are bearing false witness against thy neighbor, better to focus on your faith walk and leave your grievances behind.
I am bearing "false witness" against a neighbor? What lie have I levied against another here? Perhaps it is you that is bearing "false witness".PabloSerna said:
Why the obsession with this M1?
You are bearing false witness against thy neighbor, better to focus on your faith walk and leave your grievances behind.
Now even if one accepts that the creator of the video in the OP has correctly interrupted Catholic teaching, which it laughably does not, the way the videos starts with dark ominous music while not an outright lie certainly portrays the clips that it plays over in a rather sinister light.. IMHO, that is bearing false witness, whether intentional or not on your part it definitely intentional on those who produced the video. That in itself should have been a huge red flag.
My advice to you, if the purpose of the threads you recently started is a hope that Catholics find a truer or purer expression of the Faith, is to try to understand it as Catholics understand it, then argue against that. We are not going to have a D'oh moment watching such videos and suddenly realize the "error" of our beliefs and practices. In fact we are much more likely to just dig our heals in even further.
If your hopes are dissuade non-Catholics from possibly being drawn to the Church, carry on with the bilge that will likely only appeal to those already in the choir. Nobody else will likely watch so no real harm done other than to how those of us who interact on this board will construe your posts.
My advice to you, if the purpose of the threads you recently started is a hope that Catholics find a truer or purer expression of the Faith, is to try to understand it as Catholics understand it, then argue against that. We are not going to have a D'oh moment watching such videos and suddenly realize the "error" of our beliefs and practices. In fact we are much more likely to just dig our heals in even further.
If your hopes are dissuade non-Catholics from possibly being drawn to the Church, carry on with the bilge that will likely only appeal to those already in the choir. Nobody else will likely watch so no real harm done other than to how those of us who interact on this board will construe your posts.
M1 - you seem to be ignoring this most basic question as you continue to attack and lambast the Catholic faith. Why do you refuse to answer this most basic and fundamental question?? You keep quoting scripture but you refuse to define what is rightfully considered scripture.
What is "The Bible"? What is Scripture?
How many books are in your Bible??
OT= ??
NT= ??
OT+NT= ??
It's easy to be a Catholic when one ignores scripture.jkag89 said:
Now even if one accepts that the creator of the video in the OP has correctly interrupted Catholic teaching, which it laughably does not, the way the videos starts with dark ominous music while not an outright lie certainly portrays the clips that it plays over in a rather sinister light.. IMHO, that is bearing false witness, whether intentional or not on your part it definitely intentional on those who produced the video. That in itself should have been a huge red flag.
My advice to you, if the purpose of the threads you recently started is a hope that Catholics find a truer or purer expression of the Faith, is to try to understand it as Catholics understand it, then argue against that. We are not going to have a D'oh moment watching such videos and suddenly realize the "error" of our beliefs and practices. In fact we are much more likely to just dig our heals in even further.
If your hopes are dissuade non-Catholics from possibly being drawn to the Church, carry on with the bilge that will likely only appeal to those already in the choir. Nobody else will likely watch so no real harm done other than to how those of us who interact on this board will construe your posts.
sigh. I tried. Carry on.
You obviously don't accept scripture and so we have no basis to engage in discussion. It would be like trying to engage an atheist that obviously doesn't believe that the scriptures are relevant at all.Faithful Ag said:
M1 - you seem to be ignoring this most basic question as you continue to attack and lambast the Catholic faith. Why do you refuse to answer this most basic and fundamental question?? You keep quoting scripture but you refuse to define what is rightfully considered scripture.
What is "The Bible"? What is Scripture?
How many books are in your Bible??
OT= ??
NT= ??
OT+NT= ??
I "attack" false doctrine.
In other communities, I battle Hell-Fire Baptists that believe everyone but them is going to "Hell".
Yea, I'm not very popular.
— Buckeye66 (@Buckeye662) June 14, 2023
Give me the word of God my brother! Convince me with God's words rather than your own, my brother. If you can't, then that should give you pause to reconsider if what you have been taught is true.jkag89 said:
sigh. I tried. Carry on.
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