When you control the media...Quote:
The response of Democrats and the media were virtually identicalnear-silence about the Far-Left Dayton shooting, but loud condemnation of the Far-Right El Paso shooting, linking it to the allegedly hate-filled, xenophobic rhetoric and bigotry of President Trump and his administration. No surprise there. To Democrats and the media, murder by someone on the Right is almost always a despicable act encouraged by hateful conservatives whereas the same act by someone on the Left is simply tragic.
Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
I mean.. you know why right?? Those countries are anti-clerical. Recommend you check out the movie "Romero." True story. Better yet, talk to missionaries, they will tell you. Those countries are fine with feel good religions that don't advocate for human rights and encourage workers to organize.chimpanzee said:
Meanwhile, the Guatemalan, El Salvadoran, Honduran and Mexican bishops aren't heard from at all.
Read it. Wasted 10 mins. Peanut gallery stuff.Thaddeus73 said:
apparently for the DNC...
Politically Correct USCCB
PabloSerna said:Read it. Wasted 10 mins. Peanut gallery stuff.Thaddeus73 said:
apparently for the DNC...
Politically Correct USCCB
+Pablo
Yep. I am just as tough on the mainline Protestant denominations.PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
Sure because as already pointed out by himself UTExan does not discrimination in calling groups unAmerican. For example the R&P board is the most unAmerican on all of TexAgs.PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
PabloSerna said:I mean.. you know why right?? Those countries are anti-clerical. Recommend you check out the movie "Romero." True story. Better yet, talk to missionaries, they will tell you. Those countries are fine with feel good religions that don't advocate for human rights and encourage workers to organize.chimpanzee said:
Meanwhile, the Guatemalan, El Salvadoran, Honduran and Mexican bishops aren't heard from at all.
+Pablo
jkag89 said:Sure because as already pointed out by himself UTExan does not discrimination in calling groups unAmerican. For example the R&P board is the most unAmerican on all of TexAgs.PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
He's right if he adjust his statement to say 'the pope and a sizable number of American bishops' instead of 'The Catholic Church (and I'm Catholic).SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Thanks
texan12 said:
I don't know anything about Catholics, but it's church structure seems much more centralized compared to Protestantism. To go along with that, when there is a Pope who some Americans disagree with, then that may reflect negatively on the church.
SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Thanks
jkag89 said:+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Also why do you believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?
To be fair, Christianity has an agenda that, at times, is against American policies. Does that mean Christianity is "anti-American"? Does that mean Christianity is wrong?Buck Turgidson said:
I am agreeing with the previous poster who used the term "anti-American". When you push an agenda that is bad for America, I believe that fits the definition of "anti-American".
If the Church's agenda is "anti-American", then that says far more about "American" interests than anything else. The Church (not just RCC) should always stand against worldly power, violence, and empire.Buck Turgidson said:jkag89 said:+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Also why do you believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?
I am agreeing with the previous poster who used the term "anti-American". When you push an agenda that is bad for America, I believe that fits the definition of "anti-American".
Which does not answer the question, why do you (or UTExan) believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?Buck Turgidson said:jkag89 said:+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Also why do you believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?
I am agreeing with the previous poster who used the term "anti-American". When you push an agenda that is bad for America, I believe that fits the definition of "anti-American".
I never said they should be. A previous poster said, and I agreed, that the Catholic Church and America's interests weren't aligned - that the pope was anti-American. You seem to be confusing should/shouldn't with are/aren't. It is not really debatable that the current pope specifically and the Catholic Church generally DO NOT have the best interest of the US at heart. They have their own agenda that is bad for America. That is a factual, stand-alone statement. I have said nothing so far about what SHOULD be the case.jkag89 said:Which does not answer the question, why do you (or UTExan) believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?Buck Turgidson said:jkag89 said:+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Also why do you believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?
I am agreeing with the previous poster who used the term "anti-American". When you push an agenda that is bad for America, I believe that fits the definition of "anti-American".
1) The entire history of the Roman Catholic Church is ALL ABOUT worldly power, violence and empire. You're talking about the perpetrators of the "inquisition", participants in most of Europe's wars, enslavers and murderers of Indians in the New World (all as part of conversion), and priests who helped smuggle Nazis out of Germany at the end of WWII.PacifistAg said:If the Church's agenda is "anti-American", then that says far more about "American" interests than anything else. The Church (not just RCC) should always stand against worldly power, violence, and empire.Buck Turgidson said:jkag89 said:+1SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Also why do you believe the Catholic Church's aims should be in the best interest of the U.S.?
I am agreeing with the previous poster who used the term "anti-American". When you push an agenda that is bad for America, I believe that fits the definition of "anti-American".
Buck Turgidson said:SoulSlaveAG2005 said:Buck Turgidson said:PabloSerna said:Wow.. and this passes the smell test moderators??UTExan said:
If anything, the Catholic hierarchy is anti-American
+pablo
That is not really debatable. The Catholic Church has certain aims that are directly at odds with the best interests of the US, even when they don't have a marxist fraud as pope.
Please expound on the bolded section with specific aims that are in direct conflict with US interest.
Thanks
I am equating the Pope with the Catholic Church in this response. Just off the top of my head:
- The Catholic Church favors open borders and would love to see the US overrun with migrants from Central and South America. That's probably because those migrants would be overwhelmingly Catholic
- The current Pope is promoting the liberal lie of manmade climate change, which is a transparent scheme to hamper western economies and transfer wealth to less developed portions of the world
- The current Pope is anti-capitalist
Are we conquering lands and absorbing them anymore? No. Are we sending our military around the world to murder countless numbers and spread terror to force state's compliance to our demands? Absolutely. I was part of that machine and saw our evil firsthand.Quote:
2) Your post would lead one to believe that the US is on some sort of imperialistic expansion and the Catholic Church was trying to thwart it. That's not even remotely the issue. Any student of geopolitics knows the US is rapidly pulling back from foreign entanglements and returning to its isolationist roots (read some Peter Zeihan books). The issues over which the US interests and those of the Catholic Church conflict have little to do with "power, violence and empire". They have more to do with screwing over the US in favor of broader globalist/Marxist aims.