R - Faith, tightropes, needs

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The average human to survive needs at minimum, air, and water. He may go at maximum 3 weeks continuously or so with no food; 3 days with no water.

Assuming you are not testing the Lord, you're one of his children (you've accepted him, confessed sins, repented), obey him to the best of you're abilities, and assume he wishes for you live...

Is it safe to assume he will provide one way or another what you need to continue on living and no matter the situation, he will provide?

It seems the Lord's test for the Israelites out in the wilderness was to kindly ask the Lord for what they needed and have faith he would provide. They started sinning when they started demanding things and getting angry at Moses when they would go without water.

They were unwilling to "acrobat" their faith and just be happy with meager provisions and wait to be pushed to the edge and either accept death or receive salvation.

They were unwilling to say, "well I know we are out here in the middle of nowhere, and I know our water supplies have run dry, but if the Lord wants us to live, he will provide water; if he wants us to perish, he won't. We will kindly pray and ask for water and do our due diligence to be on the lookout for sources of water, but we dare not disrespect the sovereign one or dishonor him in any shape, form, or fashion. We're sinners and don't deserve another breath of air to breathe , much less water. We can tell the Lord how sad we are without water and tell him how we're suffering.

It's his choice, ultimately, whether to allow us to live at all.
Marco Esquandolas
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Nope. No guarantee at all. God lets people starve to death since always.
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They were unwilling to say, "well I know we are out here in the middle of nowhere, and I know our water supplies have run dry, but if the Lord wants us to live, he will provide water; if he wants us to perish, he won't. We will kindly pray and ask for water and do our due diligence to be on the lookout for sources of water, but we dare not disrespect the sovereign one or dishonor him in any shape, form, or fashion. We're sinners and don't deserve another breath of air to breathe , much less water. We can tell the Lord how sad we are without water and tell him how we're suffering.

It's his choice, ultimately, whether to allow us to live at all.

This is why I cannot follow a christian god. If people don't see anything wrong with this statement or the thought process behind it, then I guess I will continue to have to agree to disagree.

A general statement and not really directed at OP.
dds08
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1 Corinthians 1: 18 & 19
bmks270
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My philosophy is you have to do your part.
dds08
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Care to elaborate or give an example?
dds08
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Ever read Ecclesiastes?
Marco Esquandolas
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dds08 said:

Ever read Ecclesiastes?


Yes. Have you ever been alive on Earth and read the news?
dds08
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Come to think of it. After reviewing Matthew 4:1-11, it talks about Jesus having fasted forty days and 40 nights. After this fast he was out in the wilderness and tempted by Satan.

Life has no guarantees. Not even those who are without blemish, perfectly clean (who have no need to perform burnt/sin/guilt offerings) or completely lacking the mark of sin are guaranteed food and water. Jesus wasn't guaranteed anything, just like we aren't guaranteed anything.

Perhaps it's a fact of life. Adversity, "comes with the job description" of life. Maneuvering adversity is part of the role of being a creation of the Lord.

Job was a man who was thought highly of by The Heavenly Father and we know very well even Job had to go without; face adversity. Romans 5 says that the Lord doesn't tempt anyone, however it is evidenced by Job that the Lord allows Satan to tempt us.

Born in a manger because there was no room for Him in the inn. Talk about humble, beginnings. Humble beginnings indeed.

Trials increase perseverance. Perseverance must finish it's work in us so that we may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.
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Eliminatus said:

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They were unwilling to say, "well I know we are out here in the middle of nowhere, and I know our water supplies have run dry, but if the Lord wants us to live, he will provide water; if he wants us to perish, he won't. We will kindly pray and ask for water and do our due diligence to be on the lookout for sources of water, but we dare not disrespect the sovereign one or dishonor him in any shape, form, or fashion. We're sinners and don't deserve another breath of air to breathe , much less water. We can tell the Lord how sad we are without water and tell him how we're suffering.

It's his choice, ultimately, whether to allow us to live at all.

This is why I cannot follow a christian god. If people don't see anything wrong with this statement or the thought process behind it, then I guess I will continue to have to agree to disagree.

A general statement and not really directed at OP.
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Care to elaborate Eliminatus?

What is wrong with the statement or the line of thinking behind it?
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