Too much education is a form of self-worship?

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Amazing Moves
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Does the Christian religion preach this? I believe I have heard it before. Or something like it. I was going back and forth with a person on a different site and they brought it up as a rebuttal. I'm curious if there is a verse that can be referred to etc. I do want to comment on it but, would rather confirm it 1st. I might not be googling correctly.
Pro Sandy
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You could pry easily find militant homeschooler fundamentalists teaching this, but no, Christianity in large does not teach this. Christianity has a rich history of supporting education and establishing colleges and universities.
jkag89
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Certainly would not be universally true among Christians. I'm sure every Jesuit ever would simply fall down laughing over such a statement.
747Ag
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Certainly would not be universally true among Christians. I'm sure every Jesuit ever would simply fall down laughing over such a statement.
Dominicans would likewise fall down in laughter at such a sentiment.
SapperAg
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There are strains of Christian thought that prize "common sense" over education. The early Franciscans were notorious for this. Evangelical Protestant sects sometimes seem to view education as too "worldly" and thus untrustworthy. I certainly wouldn't say it's a common belief and certainly not born out by history.
bmks270
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I am not aware of any teaching that says knowledge is bad.


Proverbs 9:9 ESV

Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

Proverbs 18:15 ESV / 81 helpful votes

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.

Colossians 2:8 ESV

See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:4-5 ESV

And my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

There is a lot more where these came from
http://www.openbible.info/topics/education
MrMeek
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I am not aware of any teaching that says knowledge is bad.


Genesis. Humanity is doomed because they sought the knowledge of good and evil and by doing so committed evil which clearly they had no knowledge of.

I wish Christians read their book
BustUpAChiffarobe
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Certainly would not be universally true among Christians. I'm sure every Jesuit ever would simply fall down laughing over such a statement.


Exactly my thought.
gordo97
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Good grief these made up threads are getting worse and worse..... "One time I had a discussion with this Christian dude and he said that getting a college degree is like worshipping the devil".... Yeah right. Keep making crap up.
MrMeek
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.

BustUpAChiffarobe
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.




It wasn't going against God's word?
MrMeek
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.




It wasn't going against God's word?


Don't eat of this tree which will give you the knowledge of good and evil.

You ask the most idiotic questions
BustUpAChiffarobe
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.




It wasn't going against God's word?


Don't eat of this tree which will give you the knowledge of good and evil.

You ask the most idiotic questions

You don't think the "don't eat of this tree" part was important?
MrMeek
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Another idiotic question.
747Ag
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.

Dammit! We've been Christianing wrong for a couple of millennia! Augustine wrong. Origen wrong. Aquinas wrong. Cardinal Newman wrong.

Mind. Blown.
jkag89
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Well compared to the brilliant mind of MrMeek, they're morons!
BustUpAChiffarobe
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I think the fact that Meek claims to know everything about a subject he argues doesn't even exist pretty much shows his true level of genius.
MrMeek
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Get that messenger rather than the message!
BustUpAChiffarobe
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Get that messenger rather than the message!


You're a lying sycophantic ozymandius, don't stop posting.
MrMeek
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Get that messenger rather than the message!


You're a lying sycophantic ozymandius, don't stop posting.


I forgive you
The Lone Stranger
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I have never heard that education was evil. I have heard that just about anything can be evil if we began to seek it or place its importance over God. I have known those who think that they are superior to others because of letters after their degree, but that is a slice at them and not education itself.

I find it difficult to equate obedience to a specific mandate as analogous to a college education. Both Isiah and Paul were well educated people.
Marco Esquandolas
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Only thing I can think of is 1 Corinthains 8:1.

https://bible.org/article/knowledge-puffs-%E2%80%94-deflating-popular-proverb
Physical Graffiti
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.

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Don't eat of this tree
When told not to do something by the personal creator, I then know it is wrong if I do it...
Elmer Dobkins
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The original sin was man seeking the knowledge of good and evil. God didn't like it and punished man for trying to educate himself. Ironically man didn't have the knowledge to know he was doing wrong. That's what he was seeking.


It wasn't going against God's word?


Don't eat of this tree which will give you the knowledge of good and evil.

You ask the most idiotic questions
For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. (Genesis 3:5).

I think it goes far beyond wanting knowledge, especially considering before the fall Adam and Eve conversed with God face-to-face. Satan who deceived them told them they'd be as gods, selling them on the same lie that took a third of the angels from heaven.
PacifistAg
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For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. (Genesis 3:5).

I think it goes far beyond wanting knowledge, especially considering before the fall Adam and Eve conversed with God face-to-face. Satan who deceived them told them they'd be as gods, selling them on the same lie that took a third of the angels from heaven.
Yes. This makes me think of something I had read in 'A Farewell to Mars'. This temptation is a powerful tool for Satan.
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"After 1945 we lost our blind faith in the inevitability of human progress. A threshold was crossed, and something important changed when humanity gained possession of what previously only God possessed: the capacity for complete annihilation. In yielding to the temptation to harness the fundamental physics of the universe for the purpose of building city-destroying bombs, have we again heard the serpent whisper, "You will be like God"?"

diehard03
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Dammit! We've been Christianing wrong for a couple of millennia! Augustine wrong. Origen wrong. Aquinas wrong. Cardinal Newman wrong.

Mind. Blown.

If only they had read their book. If only.

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For the OP, it depends on the motivation. Christ demonstrated this to the Pharisees. If you are gaining knowledge to "best" God or are using your knowledge as your god (as it were), this would not be advised.
Martin Q. Blank
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I think the fact that Meek claims to know everything about a subject he argues doesn't even exist pretty much shows his true level of genius.
MrMeek = SapperAg?
Amazing Moves
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You could pry easily find militant homeschooler fundamentalists teaching this, but no, Christianity in large does not teach this. Christianity has a rich history of supporting education and establishing colleges and universities.
I thought this seemed foolish. There are 970 post secondary schools in the U.S. alone. I was floored by this quote..

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In my years of experience in the Church, I've observed the less educated people receiving miracles more than the educated folks. Not to say that both groups aren't the recipients of the favor of God though.
Amazing Moves
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Good grief these made up threads are getting worse and worse..... "One time I had a discussion with this Christian dude and he said that getting a college degree is like worshipping the devil".... Yeah right. Keep making crap up.
I didn't make it up. You can google the exact quote in my last post to find the discussion. It was going on when I came back to post. Not sure if I can link to the site. I came back to Texags for a more level headed place to confirm because I wasn't sure. I knew the Christians on here would have a more educated answer. When I tried to google the opening title.. I didn't find much. I have heard something like this before but, I knew this place could set it straight. Thanks to the Christians and Non believers for helping me with this question.

For the record.. I have never made up a thread or a post. I know I can be brash but, it's honest.
agie95
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I am not aware of any teaching that says knowledge is bad.


Proverbs 9:9 ESV

Give instruction to a wise man, and he will be still wiser; teach a righteous man, and he will increase in learning.

Proverbs 18:15 ESV / 81 helpful votes

An intelligent heart acquires knowledge, and the ear of the wise seeks knowledge.

Colossians 2:8 ESV

See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

1 Corinthians 2:4-5 ESV

And my speech and my message were not in plausible words of wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power, that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

There is a lot more where these came from
http://www.openbible.info/topics/education
I agree that education is not bad, the verses above are being taken out of context though. The knowledge and wisdom the Bible generally speaks about is Scriptural and/or spiritual. Colossians 2:8 could be argued as against formal education for instance. Same with 1 Corinthians 2:4-5.
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Genesis. Humanity is doomed because they sought the knowledge of good and evil and by doing so committed evil which clearly they had no knowledge of.
I wish Christians read their book


They committed evil in which they clearly had no knowledge of? see genesis 2:17
MrMeek
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You can disagree all you want. They had no knowledge of Good and evil until they ate the fruit. Gods command to not eat it had no moral reference point to them if they didn't have the knowledge of good and evil. God set a trap, led them into it then punished them for not having the proper knowledge. It's sadistic.
BustUpAChiffarobe
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You can disagree all you want. They had no knowledge of Good and evil until they ate the fruit. Gods command to not eat it had no moral reference point to them if they didn't have the knowledge of good and evil. God set a trap, led them into it then punished them for not having the proper knowledge. It's sadistic.


They didn't know they were supposed to listen to God? We're his instructions ambiguous?
MrMeek
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With no knowledge of good and evil one couldn't know whether following or not following God's instruction was good or evil
BustUpAChiffarobe
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With no knowledge of good and evil one couldn't know whether following or not following God's instruction was good or evil
hmmmm.....what do you think he said?

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but from the fruit of the tree which is in the middle of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat from it or touch it, or you will die.'"


I can see how you might think that would be ambiguous
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