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NonReg85 is a Papist.

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Well we all know that Francis is liberal hack or has it been too long since Pablo or AgBeliever reminded us of this fact.

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Straining a gnat, swallowing a camel. Have a little perspective and address actual problems in the world.

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Nobody thinks this is a bigger issue than Islamic extremism. By all means though, continue making up crap about people you don't agree with.

By all means, continue whining about this "problem."

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NonReg85 is a Papist.

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The nuns at my elementary school certainly condoned the corporal punishment I favor in this case.

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The fact that any of the above is even on the table for what he did is beyond ridiculous. If this had been Ronald McDonald or Buddha the prosecutor would be completely fine with it.

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Difference being that Ronald McDonald would've liked it and no way the kid could've climbed over Buddha's belly to do the same thing.

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You know what else is "on the table"? Next to nothing in terms of punishment.

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Yeah, anything beyond nothing is ridiculous.

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Anyway, if you're really in a fizz about "what's on the table", then talk to the legislature. It's called a punishment RANGE. Harsh punishment at the upper end of the range is always "on the table", but rarely imposed. That's why it is called a range -- so that punishment, if any, can be imposed according to the circumstances -- severity, age of offender, damgage if any.

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The legislature is precisely who I have a problem with (also the prosecutor). That's what I meant that it's ridiculous that anything is on the table. They're who initially put it there.

And again, I don't know why the fact that there are a range of punishments matters when literally any punishment from the government is ridiculous and probably unconstitutional for this. If the possible punishment were a stern letter from the mayor I'd still say that was too much.

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Quote:If this had been Ronald McDonald or Buddha the prosecutor would be completely fine with it

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You don't know that. You're saying that only because you are atheist and biased.

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What about 747? He's a Christian and he agrees with me.

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But I'll play your game of speculation ... If it were Mohammed, or Madelyn Murray O'Hare, you'd want the kid to get life in prison

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I can say absolutely, unequivocally that I would not, and there is nothing in my posting history that would indicate that I would.

I hope the child prays for forgiveness and gets right with God.

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Wake me up when atheists give a **** about actual justice like beheadings, rapes, slavery in the name of Islam. Atheism isn't actually lack of belief...it's just an anti-Christian religion.

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Why in your mind is it impossible to find all of the above to be bad, and some of them to be much, much more awful than others? If someone steals my wallet, can I not complain about it because somewhere someone is getting stabbed? If I stub my toe, can I say ouch, or do I have to keep my mouth shut because someone else is losing a leg somewhere?

I'd love it if you could point to one atheist on this board being for Islamic beheadings, rapes, or slavery. Calling out other things that are admittedly minor in comparison is not in any way condoning the objectively much worse ones.

Nobody stole your wallet and you did not stub your toe. Someone else stubbed their toe and everyone is examining it and the person's "hardship." If atheists in this country devoted 1% of their attention on actual problems in this world and stood up to actual human rights violations in the Middle East, Southeast Asia, China, Russia, Northern Africa, West Africa, East Africa, etc., I think those places would be a little better off.

Why was the Humanist Manifesto written? Cause it seems humanists don't give a **** about it other than to stand proud that they too, like Christians, can help the poor and stand for justice and against tyranny. But here we are on the R&P board discussing some punk and how he is being "mistreated".

Martin, I find your generalizations hilarious. There are plenty of atheists who donate time and money to help folks. And plenty of atheists who fight the evils in this world. I think, for example, you'd be shocked to know how many atheists serve in the military.

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Wake me up when atheists give a **** about actual justice like beheadings, rapes, slavery in the name of Islam. Atheism isn't actually lack of belief...it's just an anti-Christian religion.

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Martin, did you wait up with a severe case of the dumb this morning? Whatever the case may be, I wish you a speedy recovery.

I see Martin has once again completely failed to grasp the concept of a simple analogy. Using your ridiculous logic no one could ever criticize, question, or comment on anything, ever - because somewhere out there, something worse than that thing is happening to someone.

Yes, atheists need to have a little perspective before posting crap like this. Maybe they can try fighting more of the evils in this world like Sapper does.

Again, it's possible to talk about one thing while having perspective and realizing other things are worse. Something being really really bad doesn't preclude us from discussing things that are much less bad. You're literally the only person who would look at this ridiculous story and somehow make it about Muslims beheading people.

No, no he's not the only one. I'm sure 75% of the Politics board would agree with him. Irony is apparently transparent since folks like Martin can't ever seem to realize when they're drowning in it.

I'm not an atheist, don't make generalizations about people.


Also, Atheists do have a "Draw Muhammed Day" to protest against Islam as well, but American atheists have Christians that are in their face and in their legislature on a daily basis, not Muslim people.


Christians could give two craps about what's going on in Africa right now, they only care about the Muslim people in the Middle East because they probably think that it's some end of the world b.s. and it's close to Israel, and we must protect Israel because Israel does no wrong.

I hate ISIS, and I think the Muslim faith is ridiculous, but it doesn't make this case any less ridiculous.

Kid will have 350 hours of community service, and a 10 PM curfew for the next six months along with a six month ban from social media. I know kids who committed actual crimes with less time than that.

This prosecutor should have a six month ban from oxygen.

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Kid will have 350 hours of community service, and a 10 PM curfew for the next six months along with a six month ban from social media. I know kids who committed actual crimes with less time than that.

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I see this a little differently. Perhaps the punishments for actual crimes should be a little stiffer rather than this being too tough. I'm already on record saying that this should be handled by the parents (not the court) so I'm not really arguing for or against this sentence. I'm just saying that, without a doubt, my kid would have had tougher consequences than this for pulling a stunt like that.