Keegan, don't act like you were the only one there and saw what happened. Get over yourself.

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So does a letter.....what's your point?

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But the letter doesn't simply request an apology or ask that the flight attendant in question be more respectful, the letter threatens to go to numerous media outlets if nothing happens.

Well my son recently graduated and his class of 03 buddies pretty much lived at my house. They would have to a man called her a b. One guy in the outfit has a major lifetime medical issue--from the collapse and they have zero tolerance for jokes. One did not make it home that night. They might even had said F you.

3GA

Wonder if she would've thought it funny if we said we didn't trust her because some flight attendants a few years ago couldn't overpower a small group of muslims.

Hilarious.

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Keegan, don't act like you were the only one there and saw what happened. Get over yourself.

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Bonfire jokes are not something I will ever just "let go" or "brush off" easily. I know many other good Ags that feel the same way. You apparently find such a reaction "childish".

I guess you can look back and not care so much when people joke about it. Good for you.


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But the letter doesn't simply request an apology or ask that the flight attendant in question be more respectful, the letter threatens to go to numerous media outlets if nothing happens.

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Again, what's your point?

You act like the airline is somehow being wronged here....

AA can take action, and satisfy their customer, or let it go, and reap the benefits of a rude employee.

Would I have sent a letter? No. But I applaud him for doing so. Why can't the consumer voice a complaint to a corporation?

Would you want an American Airlines stewardess writing a letter to the Batt saying all Aggies were mean people and she lost all respect for them and she was going to do everything in her power to make sure no Aggies could fly AA again because on her last flight there was a gentleman who was an A&M grad and he said rude and crude things to her the whole flight?

I think 3GA's thoughts are pretty accurate. In that situation, most of us would either keep our mouths shut or say something that could cause a ruckus. When you're insulted, that is the natural reaction - even people not of college age typically react that way. It's unacceptable that this sort of comment is tolerated. Bonfire was a catastrophic accident. It should never be turned into a joke.

I've said my piece. You people do what you want.

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Would you want an American Airlines stewardess writing a letter to the Batt saying all Aggies were mean people and she lost all respect for them and she was going to do everything in her power to make sure no Aggies could fly AA again because on her last flight there was a gentleman who was an A&M grad and he said rude and crude things to her the whole flight?

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The Batt doesn't depend on AA Stewardess' business.

AA Depends on their customers

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Would you want an American Airlines stewardess writing a letter to the Batt saying all Aggies were mean people and she lost all respect for them and she was going to do everything in her power to make sure no Aggies could fly AA again because on her last flight there was a gentleman who was an A&M grad and he said rude and crude things to her the whole flight?

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If an AA flight attendant wrote such a letter, they'd be out of a job, I imagine, and any power she had to prevent Aggies from AA would be gone, too.

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Would you want an American Airlines stewardess writing a letter to the Batt saying all Aggies were mean people and she lost all respect for them and she was going to do everything in her power to make sure no Aggies could fly AA again because on her last flight there was a gentleman who was an A&M grad and he said rude and crude things to her the whole flight?

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Last time I check, all students at A&M are ardent racists and klan members because of a video that three guys made.

Hagen,

I'm not calling for any boycott of 3GAs posts based on her insulting comment or trying to rally anybody against her.

I hope you can see the difference.

Y'all are missing my point. It was a hypothetical situation. Do you mind if I say hypothetical? It was one person. American Airlines is bigger than one person.

What about all the Aggies that work for AA?

If you're going to get upset and write a letter everytime someone on texags is insulted you are going to have a very unhappy life.

If you want to boycott AA, do it because their service is increasinly poor.

Of all the things I've read on the very board, this has got to be one of the most inane. Let's all get worked up over somebody ELSE being offended by a nobody flight attendant.

when I gave the Bonfire Memorial speech at the Capitol City A&M Club I stated that General Rudder would say 3 things about this tradgedy:
1) These men and women died doing something that they felt was extremely important to them personally and as a group
2) Learn from this
3) Grieve in your own way and get on with your life.
Now, part of getting on with your life is not taking crap that dishonors us and our dead and injured Ags. Each of us can respond to this incident in a way that works for us personally.

Last time I checked Square One, we were a pretty tight knit group... almost family. Sorry it doesn't bother you, but it does me and a lot of others.

But you're right, this is inane. Let's go talk about firing Fran more, that's exciting.

It does bother me, but like somebody said a while back, if we get all whiney and piss and moan about something a flight attendant said, then what does that say about us? I'm not saying nobody should say anything, I think those that were wronged, and no, not all Aggies were wronged, but those that were wronged should address the situation if they feel it necessary and in the way they feel proper.

She represented AA. She was wearing AA's uniform and was at work.

Just like how we are representing A&M by wearing our Aggie Ring. People see the ring and have "stereotypes" about Aggies. Thankfully these are positive stereotypes, especially in the business world.

If you're going to send this to media outlets or forward it to AA, PLEASE check it for spelling and grammar.

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Wonder if she would've thought it funny if we said we didn't trust her because some flight attendants a few years ago couldn't overpower a small group of muslims.
Hilarious.

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Well said. If the Ag would have fired back with "you flight attendants can't even subdue a few Muslims" everyone would say it was terribly wrong. So what's the difference, the number of people that were affected by the two tragedies??

When I read the original post, all I could think of was the time (in 2000) when I was eating in a Chicago restaurant wearing an A&M shirt and a lady tapped me on the arm and asked if I was an Ag. I said I was and we got to talking.
When she told me that she was the mother of one of the 12 that were killed, I just instinctively grabbed onto her and hugged her without thinking. She started bawling, then so did I.

So I'm thinking of what it would have been like if SHE would have been on that flight last week and had to hear that b*tch flight attendant make her remarks.

I hold the flight attendant responsible, not the entire airline. However, if AA doesn't respond to our letters/emails I'm all for an action against the airline.

As much as 11/18 means to all of us, comparing it to 9/11 isn't that great of an idea. Also, Bonfire does not equal terrorism. That's classy...

tragedy is tragedy and death is death. While terrorism doesn't equal unfortunate accident, the end result is the same. Don't marginalize death by bringing the cause into play.

Right, terrorists hijacking planes and killing 3,000 unassuming Americans is certainly on the same parallel as 12 young people dying while participating in something they fully knew was dangerous...and what happened with Bonfire was largely the cause of internal error and poor judgement while what happened on 9/11 and to the thousands killed was something that couldn't have been forseen.

Come on guys.

it has been so long now that this is to be expected. My friend made a similar joke. We were watching a press conference and on the wall it said building champions and my friend said, "It should say building champions, but not bonfires." It's like how some people joke about 9-11 now. It's a shame some people are that way with tradgedies, but they are. There are times to react but this is something to be frowned at and forgotten IMO

I've heard a few Aggies on more than one occasion make light of Charles Whitman. Should all Aggies be at fault because of this?

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"...Stand by the right, even to the sacrifice of life itself, and learn that death is preferable to dishonor..." -Governor Richard Coke in his address to the A&M Students in 1876.

It still applies.

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If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If you can read this in English, thank a Soldier.

Wow! That comment ticks me off, and I wasn't even there. Would I boycott the entire airline? No. But would I send a letter? Maybe. But only with the intent of making sure that the airline properly educates their flight attendants on what is acceptable to make jokes about, and what isn't. What would've happened if she HAD made that joke to the wrong person? Let's say she said it to a relative of one of those killed, or if she said it to one of those that had been injured. It would be a lot harder for one of them to sit there and take it. Who's to say they wouldn't start yelling and get visibly irate? That's a very touchy subject, and not one ANYONE should joke about.

Comparing it to 9/11? Yeah, I think that's going a little far. But these flight attendants are paid to service the customers, not insult them. They need to be educated that there are just some things you don't joke about, because you don't know how the person on the other end will react.

I'm not an Aggie, though I agree that the comment was in extremely poor taste.

My question is why exactly is American Airlines responsible for her comment? There are flight attendants that have discriminated because of race or religion that didn't get fired or were even forced to "apologize". How sincere would that forced apology be anyway?

Again, I'm not saying that what she said wasn't extremely stupid, insulting, or just plain shiatty. I just don't expect American Airlines to do something other than send send a letter saying that they're sorry for the inconvenience.

SW airlines sent a letter of apology and said they would send their attendants to sensitivity training after one of them recited the "eenie, meenie, minie, mo" rhyme to a couple of black passengers.

If the flight attendant would've been a guy, and I was the one on the flight, I would've been removed from the plane for fighting.

Maybe the question nobody will ask is "how would this flight attendant take a joke about the American crewmembers TRAGICALLY killed on 9-11?" Just a guess, but I don't think she'd think it was very funny and appropriately so.

Excellence First ...

It's simple really.

I have a choice when I fly.

...and I don't need American.

Employees may have an attitude with customers - but they are the face of a company and are in large part responsible for its success or failure - and sometimes need to be reminded of such.

MA

I have one more thought. I think it was a classless thing to say, but all you had to say at the time was "I didn't think that was funny, an I'm offended," and I bet she would have apologized right then and there. I don't think this involves taking it up the corporate ladder.

For those that say you want to fight them: There are 5 stars on my ring. One of those stars stands for integrity. Another star stands for emotional poise. Yes, stand up for what you think is right, but handle it in a way that your integrity is held intact and you remained poised. If that happens to me now, I'd say, "I'm offended by that, don't think it is funny," and I'd say it calm and right then and there to deal with it. I just thinking saying nothing at all, remember there was a whole flight to sit and stew, then going home and tattling is not a mature way to handle this.

Just my 2 cents.