*** THE ODYSSEY *** (Christopher Nolan)

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FL_Ag1998 said:

Saxsoon said:

I would be curious of the demographic breakdown but I have imagine Gen Z and younger millennial men have to be drivers for attendance. It's swords and myth and epic battles. It is the progenitor of the Hero's Journey. Men are at a low point historically and the idea of a man fighting for 10 years to get back to his wife and son strikes a powerful chord. Then getting that final battle against the suitors to save them.


Except in this version his isn't a hero fighting to get back to his family, he's a self-hating PTSD-ridden guy trying to avoid going home.


He also wanted other men to hookup with his wife.
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Muy said:

Just saw it tonight and angry and the Greek Gods for letting me sit through that disaster. "Horrible casting" would be a nice way to put it. Terrible acting, writing, and boring from the start. Thought it was the final scene about 7 times and wish I would have left each time I realized it wasn't over.


Best recommendation for the film I've seen on this board given your posting history.
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Saw it last night in imax. Movie was decent, but theater was terrible. I know that this is old man yelling at cloud stuff, but they had it loud enough that my ears are ringing today. Plus three hours in a busted seat with a bar jabbing me in the back makes me wish I'd seen it at a local theater instead of imax.
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Sapper Redux said:

Muy said:

Just saw it tonight and angry and the Greek Gods for letting me sit through that disaster. "Horrible casting" would be a nice way to put it. Terrible acting, writing, and boring from the start. Thought it was the final scene about 7 times and wish I would have left each time I realized it wasn't over.


Best recommendation for the film I've seen on this board given your posting history.


You should buy all the seats for your friends and enjoy it.
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Forgot to add that to my list.
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Apache
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More successful than Spielberg? Scorsese? Kubrick? Coppola?
This guy is out of his mind. Hell even Cameron is bigger with a better resume.
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Apache said:

Bigger than Spielberg? Scorsese? Kubrick? Coppola?
This guy is out of his mind. Hell even Cameron is bigger with a better resume.


"an argument to be had"
Apache
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It's a terrible take, but I guess you can argue about anything (and this is the thread to do it lol)
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This would be the one no doubt
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Apache said:

Bigger than Spielberg? Scorsese? Kubrick? Coppola?
This guy is out of his mind. Hell even Cameron is bigger with a better resume.


Huh? He's clearly talking in terms of MODERN BOX OFFICE DRAW and in comparison to ACTORS. In that sense he's 100% right. In the current, early-to-mid '20's era, the name "Christopher Nolan" alone is putting more butts in seats than any single ACTOR. Further, Spielberg, Scorsese, not even Cameron… none of these directors have the name-brand recognition any more, in the way that Christopher Nolan does now, in how his name alone automatically = $1B+ in box office success. Certainly no single modern actor does either. This guy is basically trying to say that "Christopher Nolan" is this era's "movie star," in the same way the names Will Smith, The Rock, etc used to automatically = box office smash. A sentiment I've seen in echoed a ton as of late.
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The tweet literally says "he's arguably the most successful filmmaker of all time" which is comparing him to other DIRECTORS not ACTORS.

However success is measured (monetarily, cultural impact, memorable movies) it ain't true. And to say his name on a film=1 billion dollars isn't true either.
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Edited my post which was confusing. What I took issue with was him being the most successful director, which is a big reach.

His name probably is a bigger draw than any actor at this point. Maybe. Which I think is more of a reflection on the state of movie stars.
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Apache said:

The tweet literally says "he's arguably the most successful filmmaker of all time" which is comparing him to other DIRECTORS not ACTORS.

However success is measured (monetarily, cultural impact, memorable movies) it ain't true. And to say his name on a film=1 billion dollars isn't true either.



Context.

His entire point stems from / is if framed around his initial box office reporting, which is immediately followed by his actor point.

In other words...

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THE ODYSSEY has surpassed JURASSIC WORLD to become Universal Pictures' biggest film of all time. There's an argument to be had that Christopher Nolan is a bigger name than any actor currently working. [To that end] He's arguably the most successful filmmaker of all time. [in the sense that he's currently bigger than any working actor.]


Spielberg, Scorsese, Cameron, etc, came up in a time when MOVIE STARS were the biggest draw. Yes, audiences obviously showed up for Steven Spielberg movies in and of themselves. But his draw/name/fame alone didn't eclipse that of Arnold Schwarzenegger, Sylvester Stallone, Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, Eddie Murphy, Julia Roberts, etc in terms of bringing general audiences to theaters. It goes doubly for the era prior, when names like Marylin Monroe, John Wayne, Cary Grant, Paul Newman, Elizabeth Taylor, Audrey Hepburn, etc FAR outweighed the names of the directors of the day.

Dan is simply making the point that, because this is the first time in history when a director's name puts more butts in seats than any given movie star, Christopher Nolan is arguably the most successful filmmaker of all time relatively speaking. That's it.
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