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I thought Erivo kinda dissed the theater community in general when she blasted the fanmade poster. Wicked's poster is iconic and ridiculing someone trying to put her into that is basically saying that she's bigger than the Broadway show. That didn't strike me as someone who's in touch with their theater side.

You are right though... these are normal antics for the terminally "artistic". Maybe it's less about Hollywood and more about being complete divas.

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Both are the dictionary definition of what a diva is.

I saw that... also go see his actual review. I thought he was very fair.

We saw it on Thanksgiving evening. My son and I feel like they could have cut about 30 mins to an hour out of it and it would have been better. Started slow and I almost fell asleep a few times (turkey+a beer in the theater), but by the end, I was enjoying it. My wife and 2 daughters evidently, loved it. After we got home, they watched the Wizard of Oz to try to connect some dots.

I guess some of the fault for me and my son not enjoying it as much is that we were not informed we were going to be there for 3 hours. I didn't think to look that up, lesson learned.

even theatre kids are making fun of it though, because it really feels like when theatre kids make fun of themselves.

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Sea Speed said:

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swimmerbabe11 said:

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I find the Grande and Ervivo press tour deeply unsettling. It feels like a caricature of the worst theatre kids you knew in college. (source: was a theatre kid)

I haven't seen it yet and I really want to wait until its released to streaming. It seems like a hot cocoa heated blanket experience to me.

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I'm not taking my kids specifically because of this therapy session media blitz.

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I'm genuinely curious why this has bothered people so much? Not picking a fight, just surprised how many people were put off by it.

I don't usually consider myself a sappy *****, but I've really been touched by their dynamic and the interviews they've done together seem so genuinely affectionate and supportive. I actually loved it and it swayed me from definitely not going to see the movie, to going to see it.

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I FINALLY figured it out

check this clip of Andrew Garfield. Garfield is a TOTAL dramatic theatre kid, but in the best way because he really truly believes in the art itself and not just the performative narcissistic self congratulatory nature of theatre culture.
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15TV9MbhiF/



Cynthia and Ariana are caught up in this super wierd emotional circle jerk (excuse my language) and I'm convinced they have passive aggressived each other into competitive eating disorders. It feels shallow and fake and performative, even though I'm sure for them it feels real, but it's just narcissism in a bubble.

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It's like the people who post on X that they "can't stop sobbing" because some third-tier character on "Yellowstone" dies.

I dunno, the first and second episode of Landman made me cry. that show is very good.

I'm not mad at people for feeling feelings or being theatre kids, but the wicked tour almost feels like.. 30 rock mockumentary or how people think big bang theory is blackface for nerds

Any chance of re-directing discussion back to the movie?

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The Porkchop Express said:

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Any chance of re-directing discussion back to the movie?

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Ask Cynthia and Ariana…they're the ones distracting everyone from the actual movie.

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The box office begs to differ

A fool and his money.......

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A fool and his money.......

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Why are you even here? Thread is about the movie that you've said you won't see

I had no desire to see this, I'm not familiar with the play nor am i a fan of rewriting villiains as misunderstood heroes, and Erivo's hissy fit over the fan made poster really turned me off, but the reviews were so good and this seemed like one of the big pop culture events like Barbie I didn't want to miss. Just got out and man I'm glad we saw that in theaters. That was such an experience

I typically despise musicals. I don't even like Disney movies with too much song & dance. It just bores me to tears.

But I saw Wicked like 13-14 years ago on Broadway and LOVED it. Kristen Chenowith (sp?) starred in the one I saw. Saw it again when it traveled to Houston because I enjoyed it so much.

Was excited to hear about the movie and hope it lives up, but the actress who plays Glinda is really souring me on it (I won't go on a tangent about it).

So it's worth it? For some reason I thought it was going to be a 2-parter. Is that correct?

Edit...I said Glinda but I meant the actress that plays Elpheba.

My daughters watch some shows that have Ariana Grande in them, and one show makes me want to stab sharp objects into my eardrums so I don't have to hear her annoying voice. So normally, I thought I'd hate this movie because of her. I was pleasantly surprised that she actually did a really good job playing Glinda.

Forgot to add that it will be a 2 parter.

It's worth it, very well done. and yes it is a 2 parter, splits at the intermission point for the stage version.

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It's worth it, very well done. and yes it is a 2 parter, splits at the intermission point for the stage version.

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But with considerable added stuff stretching it out - some is additional book stuff, some is added movie stuff.

Stage version is about 1:30 for first act and 2:40 for movie (with credits).

The stage version 2nd act is about 1 hour. I would expect the movie p2 to be about 2 hours.

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I typically despise musicals. I don't even like Disney movies with too much song & dance. It just bores me to tears.

But I saw Wicked like 13-14 years ago on Broadway and LOVED it. Kristen Chenowith (sp?) starred in the one I saw. Saw it again when it traveled to Houston because I enjoyed it so much.

Was excited to hear about the movie and hope it lives up, but the actress who plays Glinda is really souring me on it (I won't go on a tangent about it).

So it's worth it? For some reason I thought it was going to be a 2-parter. Is that correct?

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Don't let that distract you - if you loved the stage version I think you will love the movie version too.

Ariana is different than Kristen for sure but I would say they both owned it. Took me all of maybe 2 minutes to buy into her as Glinda.

Ariana had me laughing out loud several times. She was great. Killer singing voice, of course

We saw it this past Sunday, other than being excited about it coming out neither me or Mrs. TH knew that it was a two parter. In fact, when they showed "Wicked, Part One" on the opening credits both of us thought there would be an intermission, lol. About 90 minutes it was dragging and we both realized there would be a second movie.

All-in-all, we liked it. We saw the stage production in Dallas many years ago, and I have read the book a couple of times. I didn't really remember too many specifics about the stage production, but I do remember many of the book details. I'm starting to wonder if this is kind of like the Hobbit trilogy? A little too much for one movie, but not nearly enough for multiple.

I just realized I said I didn't like the actress for Glinda, but I was visualizing and meant the actress that plays Elphaba.

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I just realized I said I didn't like the actress for Glinda, but I was visualizing and meant the actress that plays Elphaba.

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The first 30 minutes or so is probably the slowest part, after the opening number and before Galinda and Elphaba officially become roommates; after that though, it's laugh-out loud funny and has multiple really well executed numbers; they aren't just passing time before "Defying Gravity".

There are plenty of celebrities I wish would shut up in real life, but I've yet to talk anyone who though Cynthia Erivo's performance was anything less than fantastic. She has some Rosario Dawson in her facial movements, showing emotion without being a caricature. As many have previously mentioned, Ariana Grande is on what the Rewatchables Podcast would call "Apex Mountain" right now, making the sort of stunningly great transition to another medium like Lady Gaga or someone like Bette Midler before her.

Can we get a corner of this thread in which to hold space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity?

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Can we get a corner of this thread in which to hold space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity?

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Only of we can hold fingers, too

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Can we get a corner of this thread in which to hold space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity?

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How did you like the movie?

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Can we get a corner of this thread in which to hold space for the lyrics of Defying Gravity?

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Only of we can hold fingers, too

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Have not seen it. Enjoyed the Broadway play, but not running out to see this.

Took my 8 and 5 year old daughters to see this.

Was not aware of the 2 hours and 40 min session.

Long but my kids loved it. I enjoyed it as well. Definitely must see at an Alamo Drafthouse