$3 Sack of Groceries said:

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I am near the end of the last episode. It's been incredible so far but holy hell, I can't be the only one who is just so put off by Nathan Lane and his character. The over the top narration of the situation his character provides in nearly ever seen is so ridiculous. And the latent homosexual tension that's present in those scenes….why?? It's doesn't add anything to the show. For the most part when he's doing those soliloquies at his dinner parties it's just utterly distracting and frankly comical. Really distracts from an otherwise fantastic show.

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I can't stand anything with Nathan Lane in it. I think he's a horrible film actor. Might be great for stage, but he tries to bring stage acting to film and it just doesn't work.

I thought it was a great documentary. Did a good job of making you believe the brothers, and then in the next scene making you completely doubt again. So at the end of it all, you just have no idea.

As for those who can't understand why they wouldn't have gone to the police as children....while I experienced nothing remotely close to what they went through, I went through things growing up that would be consider abuse. And honestly, as a child I thought it was either normal, or that I deserved it. And I was born well after the Menndez brothers, when society was starting to come down much harder on "child abuse." It's hard to explain unless you've been through it, the way your worldview is absolutely warped and you feel a conflict of "I deserve this and it's normal" versus "I don't want my mom/dad to get in trouble" and "if I told someone and my mom/dad found out, then it would make things so much worse." Add to it that no one would believe you, and what really is the incentive for a child to tell anyone?

AJ02 said:

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I thought it was a great documentary. Did a good job of making you believe the brothers, and then in the next scene making you completely doubt again. So at the end of it all, you just have no idea.

As for those who can't understand why they wouldn't have gone to the police as children....while I experienced nothing remotely close to what they went through, I went through things growing up that would be consider abuse. And honestly, as a child I thought it was either normal, or that I deserved it. And I was born well after the Menndez brothers, when society was starting to come down much harder on "child abuse." It's hard to explain unless you've been through it, the way your worldview is absolutely warped and you feel a conflict of "I deserve this and it's normal" versus "I don't want my mom/dad to get in trouble" and "if I told someone and my mom/dad found out, then it would make things so much worse." Add to it that no one would believe you, and what really is the incentive for a child to tell anyone?

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I can see not going to the police as children, but what about when you were 18 or 21?

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$3 Sack of Groceries said:

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I am near the end of the last episode. It's been incredible so far but holy hell, I can't be the only one who is just so put off by Nathan Lane and his character. The over the top narration of the situation his character provides in nearly ever seen is so ridiculous. And the latent homosexual tension that's present in those scenes….why?? It's doesn't add anything to the show. For the most part when he's doing those soliloquies at his dinner parties it's just utterly distracting and frankly comical. Really distracts from an otherwise fantastic show.

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I can't stand anything with Nathan Lane in it. I think he's a horrible film actor. Might be great for stage, but he tries to bring stage acting to film and it just doesn't work.

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I don't really understand why his character was given so much screen time. He seemed to add nothing to the story.

I suspect his role was to portray public sentiment at the time through the lens of a popular journalist that covered crime in LA during the trial.

So I haven't seen the accompanying documentary. But I hear that it is basically the two brothers "correcting the record".

Is this miniseries generally considered to be accurate or full of crap?

Sea Speed said:

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Good show so far.

The entirety of episode 5 is a single take episode of Erik talking to his lawyer in jail and it is one of the most compelling episodes of TV I have ever seen. Surely they used some movie magic for editing but I can't see where they did it.

I remember the story on tv at the time but didn't know any specific details of the story so it is interesting to Google some stuff as the show goes on.

Definitely recommend.

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I couldn't watch the episode. Too intense. Not a discredit to the show in the slightest. It just made me about as uncomfortable as I've ever been watching an episode of television.

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AJ02 said:

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I thought it was a great documentary. Did a good job of making nuggets?

I believe the brothers, and then in the next scene making you completely doubt again. So at the end of it all, you just have no idea.

As for those who can't understand why they wouldn't have gone to the police as children....while I experienced nothing remotely close to what they went through, I went through things growing up that would be consider abuse. And honestly, as a child I thought it was either normal, or that I deserved it. And I was born well after the Menndez brothers, when society was starting to come down much harder on "child abuse." It's hard to explain unless you've been through it, the way your worldview is absolutely warped and you feel a conflict of "I deserve this and it's normal" versus "I don't want my mom/dad to get in trouble" and "if I told someone and my mom/dad found out, then it would make things so much worse." Add to it that no one would believe you, and what really is the incentive for a child to tell anyone?

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I can see not going to the police as children, but what about when you were 18 or 21?

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They are conditioned to believe this is normal. Just like brushing your teeth and saying your prayers at night.

They know nothing else.

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Going off this show alone, the brothers absolutely knew it was not normal. So even if this were true for everybody else (and it's not), it wouldn't apply to them.

aTmAg said:

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I don't care what anybody says, but that Milli Vanilli song is pretty damned good.

I think the real singers/song-writers should have gotten the Oscar that was taken from the fake group.

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I found it amusing they used Milli Vanilli who were another public duo that lied to the public about who they really were.

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aTmAg said:

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I don't care what anybody says, but that Milli Vanilli song is pretty damned good.

I think the real singers/song-writers should have gotten the Oscar that was taken from the fake group.

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I found it amusing they used Milli Vanilli who were another public duo that lied to the public about who they really were.

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I forgot all about that song until I saw this show. And I agree it does fit perfectly.

Ryan Murphy has always been good in his music choices. For example, this song in the season 2 finale of Nip/Tuck was good too (spoiler if you haven't seen and want to see the show).

So I haven't seen the accompanying documentary. But I hear that it is basically the two brothers "correcting the record".

Is this miniseries generally considered to be accurate or full of crap?

Los Angeles D.A. George Gascn will seek a reduced sentence for Lyle and Erik Menendez, the brothers who murdered their parents, Jose and Kitty, in 1989.

Gascn's office will ask a Los Angeles judge to lower their sentences from life without the possibility of parole to 50 years to life. If approved, the Menendez brothers would be eligible for parole immediately.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/menendez-brothers-leniency-early-release-george-gascon-1236183085/

and what's sad is that if they are paroled, they'll make millions off of the fame of brutally killing their parents while plenty of hard working Americans that did things the right way eek by.

Petrino1 said:

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Los Angeles D.A. George Gascn will seek a reduced sentence for Lyle and Erik Menendez, the brothers who murdered their parents, Jose and Kitty, in 1989.

Gascn's office will ask a Los Angeles judge to lower their sentences from life without the possibility of parole to 50 years to life. If approved, the Menendez brothers would be eligible for parole immediately.

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/menendez-brothers-leniency-early-release-george-gascon-1236183085/

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From the link:

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. . . At a press conference, Gascon said he had come to his decision after "careful review." . . .

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Of the Netflix series and publicity.

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. . . Gascon said that there was a dispute within his office about whether to seek resentencing, and that prosecutors from his office may wish to speak against it at a hearing.
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Gascon, who is facing long odds for reelection on Nov. 5, has been publicly mulling the case for the last few weeks. At an earlier press conference and in multiple national TV interviews, he said that the brothers appeared to have been well behaved in prison. He also said he was taking seriously the claim that the brothers had been sexually abused by their father.
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The Association of Deputy District Attorneys, which represents prosecutors, blasted Gascon for his "obsession" with the Menendez case on Wednesday, saying he was "driven by his desire for television appearances."

Throughout his disastrous tenure as DA, Gascon has consistently prioritized celebrity cases over the rights of crime victims, showing more interest in being in the spotlight than in upholding justice," said Michele Hanisee, the association's president.
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Even if the DA's office isn't on board with it it's not their decision and all the attorneys under him aren't poised to be voted out of office. This was obviously well considered, if not necessarily on the merits.

Fun stuff.