I just started watching Shameless

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Ryan the Temp
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9:44a, 8/28/24
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I had no idea this show even existed until recently. I saw a few clips that seemed interesting, so I figured I'd give it a whirl.

Damn, this show is A LOT. It's also a testament to William H. Macy's acting chops because he plays one of the most hateable characters I've ever seen on TV. I'm on season 3 now, and I feel seething rage every time he's on camera. Frank is just so awful.

But more than that, I find the frequent depiction of adults having sex with minors very disturbing, especially with the nudity. I realize the actors are over 18, but the nudity of characters whose ages are as young as 15 feels really skeevy to me.
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In reply to Ryan the Temp • 9:47a, 8/28/24
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first couple of seasons are really good. then it just kind of loses the plot in my opinion. i've never bothered to finish.
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In reply to Ryan the Temp • 10:29a, 8/28/24
Ryan the Temp said:
I had no idea this show even existed until recently. I saw a few clips that seemed interesting, so I figured I'd give it a whirl.

Damn, this show is A LOT. It's also a testament to William H. Macy's acting chops because he plays one of the most hateable characters I've ever seen on TV. I'm on season 3 now, and I feel seething rage every time he's on camera. Frank is just so awful.

But more than that, I find the frequent depiction of adults having sex with minors very disturbing, especially with the nudity. I realize the actors are over 18, but the nudity of characters whose ages are as young as 15 feels really skeevy to me.


3 seasons is a fair amount of watching for a show with frequent depictions of sex/nudity that disturb you and a main character that engenders seething rage when he's on camera.
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10:35a, 8/28/24
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I never understood why some of the characters made the decisions they made. Lip, for example, could have made a wonderful career/life on his brains, and supported the family. Everyone chooses failure instead of improvement.

I guess if I did understand their reasoning, I'd make the same mistakes.
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11:23a, 8/28/24
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There are some grade A pairs in this show.

This show also went so completely overboard and obnoxious with the social justice messaging that it became unwatchable in the later seasons.
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In reply to aggiegrad01 • 11:59a, 8/28/24
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aggiegrad01 said:
I never understood why some of the characters made the decisions they made. Lip, for example, could have made a wonderful career/life on his brains, and supported the family. Everyone chooses failure instead of improvement.

I guess if I did understand their reasoning, I'd make the same mistakes.
We stopped watching after nine seasons because of this. Things just going from good to bad in a never ending cycle. I can see that being the point with this dysfunctional group, but it just became too much of a bummer to watch.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:37p, 8/28/24
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Sea Speed said:
There are some grade A pairs in this show.

This show also went so completely overboard and obnoxious with the social justice messaging that it became unwatchable in the later seasons.
This, it became too ridiculous, I think I quit watching halfway through the 2nd to last or last season. Just leave the looney politics out of it and it would have been a much better show.
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12:46p, 8/28/24
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Frank only gets worse. Buckle up
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In reply to Sea Speed • 12:55p, 8/28/24
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Talking Lina or AOC grade a pairs?
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In reply to ElephantRider • 1:03p, 8/28/24
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ElephantRider said:
Frank only gets worse. Buckle up
I'm in the midst of the CPS storyline.
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In reply to aggiegrad01 • 1:36p, 8/28/24
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to be fair, that happens quite often in lower socioeconomic communities. people repeatedly make bad decisions that we do not understand. but, the show got to the point where the decisions were so ridiculous and over the top that I could not enjoy it anymore.
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In reply to Sea Speed • 1:40p, 8/28/24
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Sea Speed said:
There are some grade A pairs in this show.

This
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2:12p, 8/28/24
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First few seasons of Shameless is The Bear, but with a plot and realistic characters.
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2:35p, 8/28/24
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Shameless was my first introduction to the she/her, he/him, they, xer whatever pronouns. I remember watching and thinking, WTF is this crap? This is the most insane, non-sensical stuff you could dream up. Now 10 years later and all the pronoun stuff is being mainlined and pushed onto society like it's normal.

I think where Shameless left off, Idiocracy could have picked up, instead of it's opening scene.
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4:04p, 8/28/24
Sea Speed is correct.

V might be one of the most attractive women ever on screen. Fiona is a mess but is a good depiction of what hot white trash can be like.

Whenever Debs became a welder and had a kid, and when the Ginger brother went full-on "gay Jesus" for no real reason, it got unwatchable.

Main point of the show: poor people will always find money for booze and smokes. No matter how poor they are.
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 4:12p, 8/28/24
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As a person who works with homeless Veterans……no lies detected on your comment!
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7:01p, 8/28/24
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Glad I read this thread. I keep hearing how great this show is, and I'm struggling to get through 1 season.

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7:22p, 8/28/24
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It's funny, especially the first few seasons. Deb is Skyler White-level annoying IMO. Is there anyone really redeemable (except for Lip?). No.
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 8:25p, 8/28/24
maroon barchetta said:
Sea Speed is correct.

V might be one of the most attractive women ever on screen. Fiona is a mess but is a good depiction of what hot white trash can be like.

Whenever Debs became a welder and had a kid, and when the Ginger brother went full-on "gay Jesus" for no real reason, it got unwatchable.

Main point of the show: poor people will always find money for booze and smokes. No matter how poor they are.

V got them bags, no doubt!
"I always thought Roy Acuff was probably an *******. I’m a Hank Williams fan."

-Steve Earle
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In reply to WestGalvestonAggie • 8:35p, 8/28/24
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Everyone keeps talking about these tits.

We have rules around here
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8:43p, 8/28/24
Staff and posters err, perk up.
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9:24a, 8/29/24
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V's are too fake.

Sherilynn Fenn is getting old but still has some quality.
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In reply to GoAgs92 • 9:26a, 8/29/24
I think those are real
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11:00a, 8/29/24
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The Russian chick had a great body!


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9:52p, 8/29/24
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I'm on season 2 of a rewatch…Frank just killed Butterface
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In reply to ElephantRider • 10:05p, 8/29/24
ElephantRider said:
I'm on season 2 of a rewatch…Frank just killed Butterface


Spoiler alert

Because I don't remember who that is.

Is it the married woman with the zucchini and cucumber problem?
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In reply to maroon barchetta • 10:08p, 8/29/24
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maroon barchetta said:
ElephantRider said:
I'm on season 2 of a rewatch…Frank just killed Butterface


Spoiler alert

Because I don't remember who that is.

Is it the married woman with the zucchini and cucumber problem?


The woman who needed the heart transplant
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In reply to Ag_07 • 10:32p, 8/29/24
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Ag_07 said:
Sea Speed said:
There are some grade A pairs in this show.

This


So what network is this streaming on?
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In reply to ElephantRider • 10:37p, 8/29/24
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maroon barchetta said:
ElephantRider said:
I'm on season 2 of a rewatch…Frank just killed Butterface


Spoiler alert

Because I don't remember who that is.

Is it the married woman with the zucchini and cucumber problem?


The woman who needed the heart transplant


Oh. Right.

I was thinking of Sheila.
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11:14p, 8/29/24
Thanks. No need for me to waste my time on this one!
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In reply to Southlake • 7:41a, 8/30/24
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Southlake said:
Thanks. No need for me to waste my time on this one!


The first couple seasons are really good
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In reply to Sea Speed • 8:04a, 8/30/24
Sea Speed said:
Southlake said:
Thanks. No need for me to waste my time on this one!


The first couple seasons are really good


Agreed. At least thru Season 3 maybe? I can't remember without looking at IMDb.
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9:55a, 8/30/24
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I enjoyed the whole series, but to each their own.
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In reply to ElephantRider • 10:19a, 8/30/24
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ElephantRider said:
I enjoyed the whole series, but to each their own.

The last 2-3 seasons were hard to get through, especially after Fiona left. But the first 7 or so were great IMO. Funny thing is I didn't start watching until the day after I met Jeremy Allen White.
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I'm now about halfway through season 4 and it already seems like some of the story arcs are trying too hard. I'm mostly fast-forwarding through the Sheila scenes now.
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