Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
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We saw it yesterday. My 14 year old daughter has been having similar attacks with sports and just can't understand why. Been trying to tell her it's just a pile of emotions steam rolling in her mind...very similar to those in the movie. After the breakdown scene, we both looked at each and went "whoa". Was very spot on.Aggie Therapist said:
As a clinical therapist, this movie is absolutely amazing for opening a dialogue with your kids and teens on emotions and why we feel a certain way sometimes.
I will watch this movie and recommend it to clients.
jokershady said:Genuinely curious….in your line of work which movie do you hold in higher regard in relating/recommending it to clients….the first one or this one?Aggie Therapist said:
As a clinical therapist, this movie is absolutely amazing for opening a dialogue with your kids and teens on emotions and why we feel a certain way sometimes.
I will watch this movie and recommend it to clients.
They're both great to me but curious to hear your take.
The first one focuses mainly on how any overpowering emotion regardless of its purpose is negative and all emotions are important when kept in check.
This one does focus on the same thing but deals with more complex (or new) emotions as you come of age and the complexity of building your character and beliefs.
I think the first one is great for smaller kiddos but I appreciate the complexity of the second inside out 2 because more emotions are involved.
I do like the second one better personally. They shed some light on cognitive distortions we process (irrational thoughts) and doing a great job on focusing on thinking errors ( "I'm not good enough" was said for a long time by Riley's mind in the movie) but we can challenge those thoughts of self doubt before the turn into negative core beliefs. There's usually plenty of evidence we dismiss because we are hyper fixated on only our negatives.
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You also don't have to choose one type of movie or the other. Indulge a kid's Goofball Island with Minions. Also…watch a Pixar movie that has fun, silly moments as well as potentially some deeper messages and ideas.
We rewatched the first one last week and it occurred to me that we're meant to be annoyed by Sadness because you're seeing her through Joy's POV. The scene where Sadness sits and listens to Bing Bong cry, and afterwards he says "I feel better now" was illuminating to Joy, and for the rest of the movie she (and the audience) realize "Oh…it's healthy to be sad. It's ok". Such a powerful message to kids (and adults).
We rewatched the first one last week and it occurred to me that we're meant to be annoyed by Sadness because you're seeing her through Joy's POV. The scene where Sadness sits and listens to Bing Bong cry, and afterwards he says "I feel better now" was illuminating to Joy, and for the rest of the movie she (and the audience) realize "Oh…it's healthy to be sad. It's ok". Such a powerful message to kids (and adults).
The one scene that hit me the hardest was when they had to use the telescope to find family island, which was very prominent in the first one because it had to make room for Friend Island. I have been much lamenting and very aware of the fact that my 9 year old son is aaalllllmost to the point where he would rather hang out with friends all the time rather than do something with his parents. He kind of already does now with Fornite, but at least he's home for me and when I bug him to get off will happily go for a walk, play catch, go run an errand, etc.
I've still got a few years, but it seems like just yesterday that he was my little boy toddling around who thought mom and I were the center of the entire universe, so I know it's coming soon.
I've still got a few years, but it seems like just yesterday that he was my little boy toddling around who thought mom and I were the center of the entire universe, so I know it's coming soon.
They love you more than you know.
This will be pronounced more in college or once they are living on their own for the first time.
They tend to gravitate towards those who nurture them.
This will be pronounced more in college or once they are living on their own for the first time.
They tend to gravitate towards those who nurture them.
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My kids (6f and 4m) really liked the first one. We took them to see the second one and while parts were entertaining to them a lot went over their head. I thought it was great and it had me reflecting back on my younger days and even some of my current days.
I think both are great movies to watch with your kids and i will be using them along the way to help with some teaching points as they continue to develop into who they will become.
Anger is still my favorite character in the movies.
I think both are great movies to watch with your kids and i will be using them along the way to help with some teaching points as they continue to develop into who they will become.
Anger is still my favorite character in the movies.
Stive said:
Just curious why you guys didn't like it (or the first for that matter)?
Not sure, maybe part of it is that I dont have kids (yet?) so the message doesnt hit home with personal experience, and maybe some is to do with my personality because a lot of the time I was watching I was thinking Jesus stop being so weak and/or how annoying Riley was being. Just didnt really like either.
Awesome! Appreciate the professional perspective.Aggie Therapist said:jokershady said:Genuinely curious….in your line of work which movie do you hold in higher regard in relating/recommending it to clients….the first one or this one?Aggie Therapist said:
As a clinical therapist, this movie is absolutely amazing for opening a dialogue with your kids and teens on emotions and why we feel a certain way sometimes.
I will watch this movie and recommend it to clients.
They're both great to me but curious to hear your take.
The first one focuses mainly on how any overpowering emotion regardless of its purpose is negative and all emotions are important when kept in check.
This one does focus on the same thing but deals with more complex (or new) emotions as you come of age and the complexity of building your character and beliefs.
I think the first one is great for smaller kiddos but I appreciate the complexity of the second inside out 2 because more emotions are involved.
I do like the second one better personally. They shed some light on cognitive distortions we process (irrational thoughts) and doing a great job on focusing on thinking errors ( "I'm not good enough" was said for a long time by Riley's mind in the movie) but we can challenge those thoughts of self doubt before the turn into negative core beliefs. There's usually plenty of evidence we dismiss because we are hyper fixated on only our negatives.
If you had your choice and they made a 3rd one, what would you want them to focus on?
this is not an attempt at any sort of political / gender / whatever debate.
However my daughter brought up something i hadn't even noticed, that Riley's emotions are a mix of male and female while her parents are all male or all female.
Well, I found the answer myself from a 2014 news article, but figurd I would post it here since it's interesting. This is an interview with Pete Doctor
What was the thought process behind the genders of the emotions?
Again, it was intuitive. It felt to me like Anger's very masculine, I don't know why. And then some of it came to casting... Sadness felt a little more feminine and Mindy Kahling as Disgust felt right. And someone balanced too. Plus the female roles lead because it's inside a girl. With mom and dad, we skewed them all male and all female for a quick read, because you have to understand where we are, which is a little phony but hopefully people don't mind!
However my daughter brought up something i hadn't even noticed, that Riley's emotions are a mix of male and female while her parents are all male or all female.
Well, I found the answer myself from a 2014 news article, but figurd I would post it here since it's interesting. This is an interview with Pete Doctor
What was the thought process behind the genders of the emotions?
Again, it was intuitive. It felt to me like Anger's very masculine, I don't know why. And then some of it came to casting... Sadness felt a little more feminine and Mindy Kahling as Disgust felt right. And someone balanced too. Plus the female roles lead because it's inside a girl. With mom and dad, we skewed them all male and all female for a quick read, because you have to understand where we are, which is a little phony but hopefully people don't mind!
Honestly I took it as a way deeper meaning…
As you get older you have better control over your emotions compared to when you're a lot younger and therefore as you age your emotions age with you and are more in sync with one another…
Hence in the first movie when we go inside the parents heads real quickly….we see them all as similar except it's the sadness emotion running the show in the moms head and it's anger running the show in the dads…..but still both sets of emotions run in sync with everyone….
Take it even further with inside out 2….at the end we see the anxiety emotion in the parents heads as well….but even that version is matured and functions well with the other emotions….
Like co-workers thatve been together for 30-40 years….
As you get older you have better control over your emotions compared to when you're a lot younger and therefore as you age your emotions age with you and are more in sync with one another…
Hence in the first movie when we go inside the parents heads real quickly….we see them all as similar except it's the sadness emotion running the show in the moms head and it's anger running the show in the dads…..but still both sets of emotions run in sync with everyone….
Take it even further with inside out 2….at the end we see the anxiety emotion in the parents heads as well….but even that version is matured and functions well with the other emotions….
Like co-workers thatve been together for 30-40 years….
I loved Mom's Sadness (who runs the control board in her brain) saying "welcome back, Anxiety," with such resignation.
Paula Pell as the Mom's Anger cracks me up every time - great voice casting.
Paula Pell as the Mom's Anger cracks me up every time - great voice casting.
I can't have been the only dad on this site that completely lost it at the sar-chasm. I know I was the only one cackling in the theater, today. I might have been the only actual male adult in that viewing. lol
My son (9) and I both also laugh so hard at Anger. The Japanese style video game character was also hilarious.
My daughter is 11 and is, I'm pretty sure, about to enter puberty. The teen stuff is still a little off, but man, we are prepared for the emotional journey.
Great movie
My son (9) and I both also laugh so hard at Anger. The Japanese style video game character was also hilarious.
My daughter is 11 and is, I'm pretty sure, about to enter puberty. The teen stuff is still a little off, but man, we are prepared for the emotional journey.
Great movie
Oh, I kind thought at the beginning we would see more family stuff when they focused on family island. That and deepest darkest secret could have potential for a 3rd movie.
Oh I laughed my head off at the sar-casm....only problem was i laughed at that when I saw it in the trailer for another movie a few months ago so that joke was already spoiled for me....
And the dark secret is revealed in an end credits scene and it's nothing major at all....
And the dark secret is revealed in an end credits scene and it's nothing major at all....
Honestly, I don't think there's much to it. The just slapped a mustache or whatever on the emotion to match the character so they were differentiate from Riley's.
AggieOO said:
Honestly, I don't think there's much to it. The just slapped a mustache or whatever on the emotion to match the character so they were differentiate from Riley's.
Yeah I answered my own question with a quote from director
I like my version better.
jokershady said:Awesome! Appreciate the professional perspective.Aggie Therapist said:jokershady said:Genuinely curious….in your line of work which movie do you hold in higher regard in relating/recommending it to clients….the first one or this one?Aggie Therapist said:
As a clinical therapist, this movie is absolutely amazing for opening a dialogue with your kids and teens on emotions and why we feel a certain way sometimes.
I will watch this movie and recommend it to clients.
They're both great to me but curious to hear your take.
The first one focuses mainly on how any overpowering emotion regardless of its purpose is negative and all emotions are important when kept in check.
This one does focus on the same thing but deals with more complex (or new) emotions as you come of age and the complexity of building your character and beliefs.
I think the first one is great for smaller kiddos but I appreciate the complexity of the second inside out 2 because more emotions are involved.
I do like the second one better personally. They shed some light on cognitive distortions we process (irrational thoughts) and doing a great job on focusing on thinking errors ( "I'm not good enough" was said for a long time by Riley's mind in the movie) but we can challenge those thoughts of self doubt before the turn into negative core beliefs. There's usually plenty of evidence we dismiss because we are hyper fixated on only our negatives.
If you had your choice and they made a 3rd one, what would you want them to focus on?
I don't know if there should be a third one for Disney/Pixar.
Depends how dark you want to get.
Riley's dad leaves the family and she enters depression and guilt. (new emotions!)
Riley gets her heart broken by her boyfriend and isolates for months. Becomes anorexic because she thinks her boyfriend left her because of size.
Riley enters teenage angst, starts hanging out with the wrong crowd and lying more to her parents.
Riley starts abusing fentanyl, has a suicide attempt after trying to OD on her mom's oxycodone stash.
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I think it would be cool if they enter the college years for number 3. We can see more anxiety, young love and self-image issues highlighted. Riley seeking therapy to improve her mental wellness in college. Maybe Riley being exposed to temptation vs studying properly and doing the right things in school.
She could have a nervous breakdown from the pressures of school and being a collegiate hockey player and having to deal with the issues of being a female in a patriarchal society.
Good grief those are some dark ideas….right up there with the plot of never made Forrest Gump 2 with little Forrest having AIDS
Yep. A third movie would be more like who will ask her to prom and which college will choose? The sports one or the better academic one?
In my opinion this was upper tier Pixar. I've struggled with anxiety in the past, and that was an excellent way of describing it and showing its effect.
I'm so glad this kind of movie exists for kids, especially in middle school/high school. Can really help people process what they are feeling.
I'm so glad this kind of movie exists for kids, especially in middle school/high school. Can really help people process what they are feeling.
It was def really philosophical, loved it so much I def cried
Would this and the first one be ok for a 3 year old girl? I have been dying to take her to her first movie in the theatres and would like to watch the first one at home and follow it up with this one on the big screen, if suitable.
It'll be ok as in it won't scare or freak her out or anything....but she won't be able to follow the themes of the movie and it's meaning.
Don't think she'd be able to follow the original one either....but worth a shot as there's nothing wrong with either that would spook a little one.
Don't think she'd be able to follow the original one either....but worth a shot as there's nothing wrong with either that would spook a little one.
The original was my kids' first movie when they were 3 and has endured as one of their favorites.jokershady said:
It'll be ok as in it won't scare or freak her out or anything....but she won't be able to follow the themes of the movie and it's meaning.
Don't think she'd be able to follow the original one either....but worth a shot as there's nothing wrong with either that would spook a little one.
Gallo Blanco - AMC has their summer movie festival with old movies underway that has a few titles that are probably better for a 3 year old. The schedule is here
https://www.amctheatres.com/events/summer-movie-camp
Sing, Sing 2 and the Secret life of Pets are all great for that age and they come out in July.
Absolutely doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - just that the primary audience for these movies is female and the audience numbers bear that out. A lot of guys enjoyed the Barbie movie, but they weren't the primary intended audience for that movie either.Brian Earl Spilner said:Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
The Illumination movies are more gender neutral
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Based on the early box office returns, every female alive must be going to this movie 5 times a day.agdoc2001 said:Absolutely doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - just that the primary audience for these movies is female and the audience numbers bear that out. A lot of guys enjoyed the Barbie movie, but they weren't the primary intended audience for that movie either.Brian Earl Spilner said:Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
The Illumination movies are more gender neutral
Was Toy Story a movie for boys and middle aged men?
Wife and I saw it last night and loved it. Wasn't perfect, but we noticed little hidden gems and it hit home with us as we know what's coming (current 2 year old daughter). Highly recommend it. I think the first one is an A or A-, with the sequel being a B+ or better.
Pixar hit another HR on this one.
Pixar hit another HR on this one.
agdoc2001 said:Absolutely doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - just that the primary audience for these movies is female and the audience numbers bear that out. A lot of guys enjoyed the Barbie movie, but they weren't the primary intended audience for that movie either.Brian Earl Spilner said:Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
The Illumination movies are more gender neutral
WTF are you even talking about?
I did read that over 50% of the audience for this film are adults.The Porkchop Express said:Based on the early box office returns, every female alive must be going to this movie 5 times a day.agdoc2001 said:Absolutely doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - just that the primary audience for these movies is female and the audience numbers bear that out. A lot of guys enjoyed the Barbie movie, but they weren't the primary intended audience for that movie either.Brian Earl Spilner said:Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
The Illumination movies are more gender neutral
And also 62% of the audience for this film are females.
No idea how the heck that information is discovered...I guess through online ticket sales?
But it does seem like the Barbie movie in terms of attendance and revenue all over again. Not that there's anything wrong with that...the first movie came out roughly 10 years ago and a lot of young people back then are adults now on top of the fact that there were adults that obviously loved the original....
Combine that with it being a coming of age story involving a teenage girl and yeah you're gonna get a higher percentage of women coming to see this.....
What do you think the under/over 18 and male/female breakdown of bad boys 4 is?
agdoc2001 said:Absolutely doesn't mean you can't enjoy them - just that the primary audience for these movies is female and the audience numbers bear that out. A lot of guys enjoyed the Barbie movie, but they weren't the primary intended audience for that movie either.Brian Earl Spilner said:Strange that I and many other men seemed to enjoy the movie then.Quote:
Illumination makes fun movies for kids, Pixar now makes movies aimed at middle aged females that sometimes also appeal to kids.
The Illumination movies are more gender neutral
The primary audience for these movies are families.
The Barbie movie was a great watch for a guy as well. Look how much fun Ken had being in a patriarchal society for the first time. I thought that was a great way to show the difference on how men and women experience the world differently.
Just got back from seeing it with my 17 year old daughter. It hit us both very hard. She has dealt with anxiety most of her adolescent life. She's also very competitive with sports and very hard on herself. Afterwards, she said she felt seen. There were many times I looked at her during the movie and knew exactly what she was feeling. She cried the whole third act. We both thought the movie was excellent. And agree this is for the kids that watched the first Inside Out when it first came out and now have grown up.
I'm sure your daughter greatly appreciates you watching that movie with her.
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